On June 20 2017 00:48 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Major cant warp in 20 supply of mines in your base every cooldown tho
Major cant warp in 20 supply of mines in your base every cooldown tho
I want to be able to warp banelings
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:48 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:46 MarianoSC2 wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 Adepts are stupid, but so are libs and mines... Major cant warp in 20 supply of mines in your base every cooldown tho I want to be able to warp banelings | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15982 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:49 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 00:48 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks He isn't even if he loses the prism. Losing the prism is a huge blow is losing 150minerals that big of a deal? 1,5 zealot? No idea since im not toss. not the ressource loss but the fact that terran doesn't have to deal with the prism for the next at least 2 minutes is huge. | ||
Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:50 Ludwigvan wrote: how many viewers did they have yesterday? Same as today ... 20k+- in all streams together. | ||
yht9657
1810 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:51 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 protoss shouldn't be able to harass workers? But terran is allowed to do constant drop harass? Adept harass will end the game though if not dealt with instantly. A single prism can warp in 20 supply of adepts at once and kill 30 workers before terran can get back. A single medivac kills a few workers and then dies to overcharge/pheonixes mostly lol adepts only kill workers and a dispatch of bio could deal with them ez while a missed terran doomdrop kills everything in ur base including all buildings, not all race could fly. not to mention terran has mules. | ||
Elentos
55554 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:53 opisska wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:48 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: On June 20 2017 00:46 MarianoSC2 wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 Adepts are stupid, but so are libs and mines... Major cant warp in 20 supply of mines in your base every cooldown tho I want to be able to warp banelings From under overlords right in your opponent's main? Sounds good. | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:49 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 00:48 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks He isn't even if he loses the prism. Losing the prism is a huge blow is losing 150minerals that big of a deal? 1,5 zealot? No idea since im not toss. The mineral investment of prism is nothing. Its the threat of counterattack keeping terran at home. Otherwise major would mass his forces and snipe the 4th | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24213 Posts
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GoloSC2
711 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:53 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:49 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 00:48 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks He isn't even if he loses the prism. Losing the prism is a huge blow Not that big a blow tbh. They'd still be about even given neeb was up in supply. No excuse for a single dropship killing 30 workers so fast. It would take a 3/4 medivac commitment from Major to do equivalent damage. And if he loses that its gg that's very game specific though. major's proxy didn't really work out too well. if they were even, losing a prism is a big deal and he probably can't afford to warp in that many adepts / has to cut other stuuf to be able to. | ||
Elentos
55554 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:55 [PkF] Wire wrote: ok zvz I can do something else for at least one hour How are you so sure it's not just 15 minutes? | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24213 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:56 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:55 [PkF] Wire wrote: ok zvz I can do something else for at least one hour How are you so sure it's not just 15 minutes? ads, talking, etc | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:54 yht9657 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:51 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 protoss shouldn't be able to harass workers? But terran is allowed to do constant drop harass? Adept harass will end the game though if not dealt with instantly. A single prism can warp in 20 supply of adepts at once and kill 30 workers before terran can get back. A single medivac kills a few workers and then dies to overcharge/pheonixes mostly lol adepts only kill workers and a dispatch of bio could deal with them ez while a missed terran doomdrop kills everything in ur base including all buildings, not all race could fly. You just described it exactly. A terran has to DOOMDROP, aka go ALLIN to do equiv dmg. A single warp prism is like 200 minerals, hardly allin. the risk-reward is too good for protoss not to try warp in 15 adepts in the main. If terran is out of position you kill 30 workers and win, an equivalent single medivac will kill a couple workers and maybe a pylon. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:48 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:46 MarianoSC2 wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 Adepts are stupid, but so are libs and mines... Major cant warp in 20 supply of mines in your base every cooldown tho Because he doesn't proxy enough factories | ||
Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote: Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it? People wanna see some 360 noscopes | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote: Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it? People like to watch games they are interested in. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:58 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:54 yht9657 wrote: On June 20 2017 00:51 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 protoss shouldn't be able to harass workers? But terran is allowed to do constant drop harass? Adept harass will end the game though if not dealt with instantly. A single prism can warp in 20 supply of adepts at once and kill 30 workers before terran can get back. A single medivac kills a few workers and then dies to overcharge/pheonixes mostly lol adepts only kill workers and a dispatch of bio could deal with them ez while a missed terran doomdrop kills everything in ur base including all buildings, not all race could fly. You just described it exactly. A terran has to DOOMDROP, aka go ALLIN to do equiv dmg. A single warp prism is like 200 minerals, hardly allin. the risk-reward is too good for protoss not to try warp in 15 adepts in the main. If terran is out of position you kill 30 workers and win, an equivalent single medivac will kill a couple workers and maybe a pylon. Uhem, if toss puts 15 gates on cooldown and 40 supply that can't shoot up in your main, go ahead and eliminate him with scv pull. | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote: Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it? More people play CS GO so more people watch CS GO | ||
Boggyb
2855 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote: Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it? People like to watch games they also play. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15982 Posts
On June 20 2017 00:58 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 00:54 yht9657 wrote: On June 20 2017 00:51 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote: Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs. LOTV, great game design since 2015 protoss shouldn't be able to harass workers? But terran is allowed to do constant drop harass? Adept harass will end the game though if not dealt with instantly. A single prism can warp in 20 supply of adepts at once and kill 30 workers before terran can get back. A single medivac kills a few workers and then dies to overcharge/pheonixes mostly lol adepts only kill workers and a dispatch of bio could deal with them ez while a missed terran doomdrop kills everything in ur base including all buildings, not all race could fly. You just described it exactly. A terran has to DOOMDROP, aka go ALLIN to do equiv dmg. A single warp prism is like 200 minerals, hardly allin. the risk-reward is too good for protoss not to try warp in 15 adepts in the main. If terran is out of position you kill 30 workers and win, an equivalent single medivac will kill a couple workers and maybe a pylon. how is a doomdrop allin? you load up medivacs, scan the main, if protoss is in position you don't drop if he's out of position you unload and kill buildings/workers then load in and fly away once the protoss army comes back. | ||
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