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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
June 19 2017 16:09 GMT
#621
kartrider

ffs people
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 19 2017 16:09 GMT
#622
It's so hot here I'm contemplating setting the stream to low to save PC heat generation
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 16:09 GMT
#623
On June 20 2017 01:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:02 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:55 GoloSC2 wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:48 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks

He isn't even if he loses the prism. Losing the prism is a huge blow


Not that big a blow tbh. They'd still be about even given neeb was up in supply.

No excuse for a single dropship killing 30 workers so fast. It would take a 3/4 medivac commitment from Major to do equivalent damage. And if he loses that its gg


that's very game specific though. major's proxy didn't really work out too well. if they were even, losing a prism is a big deal and he probably can't afford to warp in that many adepts / has to cut other stuuf to be able to.


Mass adept warpins in the main happens a lot though. and are you serious losing 200mineral dropship is a big deal? Neeb had enough money to do a mass warpin in the main and then killed 30 workers with it. Even if he loses the prism he can warpin 12 adepts at his 4th.

Major was already behind by failed proxy yh. But being out on the map when a warp prism arrives shouldn't be insta gg. In the opposite scenario (neeb being out of position and a medivac coming in), terran likely could only kill a few workers or pylons.

I like how you compare a warpprism and a 12 adept warpin (26 supply) to a single medivac (10 supply).
When protoss is out on the map a triple medivac drop is often gg too.


Because a medivac only has 10 supply max? And a prism is 2 supply that can spawn 20 in your base.

Yh thats a TRIPLE medivac drop, big commitment to do. one warp prism is like 200 mineral, not a massive investment for something that can end the game.

Near enough a single warp prism drop is same value as single medivac drop right? Yet if the prism gets in it can then spawn 30 supply of adepts in your base and GG.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 19 2017 16:09 GMT
#624
On June 20 2017 01:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
It's so hot here I'm contemplating setting the stream to low to save PC heat generation

Seriously it's awful
Thank god for fans
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
June 19 2017 16:10 GMT
#625
On June 20 2017 01:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
It's so hot here I'm contemplating setting the stream to low to save PC heat generation

still 30 degrees ye
I Protoss winner, could it be?
enuaj
Profile Joined May 2017
225 Posts
June 19 2017 16:10 GMT
#626
I would have loved to see MajOr/SpeCIal make it through to the semis.
Go Kelazhur!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 19 2017 16:11 GMT
#627
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
June 19 2017 16:13 GMT
#628
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

Why should they watch SC2 if they don't like playing it?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 16:13:23
June 19 2017 16:13 GMT
#629
What's going on with seral bank

But awesome micro
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 16:13 GMT
#630
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 19 2017 16:13 GMT
#631
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

I don't understand any of them. CSGO, LOL, DOTA ... But on the other hand, I understand HearthStone as it is interesting to think about the mental processes of the top players and compare them with your own ideas. But still, there is only one watching cinematic movie experience and that is SC2.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 16:13 GMT
#632
On June 20 2017 01:13 raff100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

Why should they watch SC2 if they don't like playing it?


Sc2 is as fun to watch as it is to play imo, but watching is less effort. That is when broken shit isn't happening
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 16:15:01
June 19 2017 16:14 GMT
#633
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

lol sc2 is as balanced as it gets.
imbalance only exists in the minds of salty players who want something to blame
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3658 Posts
June 19 2017 16:14 GMT
#634
...dat shaking hand...
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 19 2017 16:15 GMT
#635
On June 20 2017 01:13 raff100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

Why should they watch SC2 if they don't like playing it?


I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people that don't play SC2 but love watching it. I haven't played the game in years but I'm still watching
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 19 2017 16:15 GMT
#636
On June 20 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

lol sc2 is as balanced as it gets.

Not if you play the blatantly weakest race.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 19 2017 16:15 GMT
#637
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.


My problem with CSGO is that I can't see the difference between two game
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 16:16 GMT
#638
On June 20 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

lol sc2 is as balanced as it gets.


Not really. Cs involves 2 teams with almost the same resources, and then they swap halves each map to ensure nothing broken can happen.

sc2 has had many stages of imbalance across all races
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 19 2017 16:16 GMT
#639
On June 20 2017 01:15 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

lol sc2 is as balanced as it gets.

Not if you play the blatantly weakest race.

Fun fact : people balance whine even against random
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 19 2017 16:16 GMT
#640
On June 20 2017 01:16 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:15 Ej_ wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

lol sc2 is as balanced as it gets.

Not if you play the blatantly weakest race.

Fun fact : people balance whine even against random

to be fair the fact that the race the randomer gets is not announced ingame is just OP
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