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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16098 Posts
June 19 2017 15:45 GMT
#561
On June 20 2017 00:43 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:30 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:28 gTank wrote:
Am I the only one thinking you should make storm/fungal/emp all either projectiles or instant cast?
Not mixing it up?
Btw I like storms but I never figured out why storms are still instant cast.

storm does damage over time so it makes sense it's instant cast. EMP does all its damage instantly and you can't move out of fungal.

You can dodge EMPs though. You see the projectile.

that's the point, because EMP is instant damage it needs to be a projectile so there's counterplay. Storm already does have counterplay so it doesn't need to be instant cast.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
June 19 2017 15:46 GMT
#562
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


Adepts are stupid, but so are libs and mines...
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16098 Posts
June 19 2017 15:47 GMT
#563
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015

protoss shouldn't be able to harass workers? But terran is allowed to do constant drop harass?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 19 2017 15:47 GMT
#564
Whenever I see people complaining about adept warp-ins, I want them to download BW and deal with a lurker drop.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
June 19 2017 15:47 GMT
#565
On June 20 2017 00:42 Penev wrote:


latam..

kelaGOD the last LatAm hope! we will send our energy to you
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 15:48 GMT
#566
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
June 19 2017 15:48 GMT
#567
On June 20 2017 00:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


Adepts are stupid, but so are libs and mines...

Major cant warp in 20 supply of mines in your base every cooldown tho
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16098 Posts
June 19 2017 15:49 GMT
#568
On June 20 2017 00:48 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks

He isn't even if he loses the prism. Losing the prism is a huge blow
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 19 2017 15:50 GMT
#569
Being back warp in robo imo
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Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2373 Posts
June 19 2017 15:50 GMT
#570
how many viewers did they have yesterday?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 15:51 GMT
#571
On June 20 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015

protoss shouldn't be able to harass workers? But terran is allowed to do constant drop harass?


Adept harass will end the game though if not dealt with instantly.

A single prism can warp in 20 supply of adepts at once and kill 30 workers before terran can get back. A single medivac kills a few workers and then dies to overcharge/pheonixes mostly
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 19 2017 15:51 GMT
#572
While I'm rooting for Neeb, Serral vs. Kelazhur would be a neat finals.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
June 19 2017 15:51 GMT
#573
On June 20 2017 00:48 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


Adepts are stupid, but so are libs and mines...

Major cant warp in 20 supply of mines in your base every cooldown tho


That sounds awesome btw
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1387 Posts
June 19 2017 15:52 GMT
#574
On June 20 2017 00:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:48 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks

He isn't even if he loses the prism. Losing the prism is a huge blow

is losing 150minerals that big of a deal? 1,5 zealot?

No idea since im not toss.
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
June 19 2017 15:52 GMT
#575
On June 20 2017 00:50 Shellshock wrote:
Being back warp in robo imo


So you can warp in more prisms with the warp prism?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 15:52:58
June 19 2017 15:52 GMT
#576
On June 20 2017 00:50 Ludwigvan wrote:
how many viewers did they have yesterday?

about 15k I think

on the main
I Protoss winner, could it be?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 19 2017 15:52 GMT
#577
On June 20 2017 00:47 Ej_ wrote:
Whenever I see people complaining about adept warp-ins, I want them to download BW and deal with a lurker drop.


I want them download GTA II and deal with the highest level of police chase without having a paintshop anywhere nearby
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 15:53 GMT
#578
On June 20 2017 00:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:48 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks

He isn't even if he loses the prism. Losing the prism is a huge blow


Not that big a blow tbh. They'd still be about even given neeb was up in supply.

No excuse for a single dropship killing 30 workers so fast. It would take a 3/4 medivac commitment from Major to do equivalent damage. And if he loses that its gg
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
June 19 2017 15:53 GMT
#579
On June 20 2017 00:51 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015

protoss shouldn't be able to harass workers? But terran is allowed to do constant drop harass?


Adept harass will end the game though if not dealt with instantly.

A single prism can warp in 20 supply of adepts at once and kill 30 workers before terran can get back. A single medivac kills a few workers and then dies to overcharge/pheonixes mostly


I like how you gave totally different scenarios with wildly different circumstances.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 19 2017 15:53 GMT
#580
On June 20 2017 00:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 00:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:48 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:45 JackONeill wrote:
Terran winning until 12 adepts kill 30 scvs.

LOTV, great game design since 2015


I think the problem is that in order to do equivalent damage as terran you have to doomdrop, which is allin. If neeb loses the prism they're even, but if it gets into the main then GG unless terran counterattacks

He isn't even if he loses the prism. Losing the prism is a huge blow

is losing 150minerals that big of a deal? 1,5 zealot?

No idea since im not toss.

It's 200 for the prism and 400/100 for the adepts that were already inside.
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