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Anyone else having problems with the stream btw?
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On May 29 2017 19:42 Penev wrote:
Anyone else having problems with the stream btw?
Just watch John's stream and don't be lied to about the game's state constantly 
https://www.twitch.tv/johnsc2
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On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech)
isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech?
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On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech)
I don't understand why the game should necessarily revolve around tiers of units. The current progression from bio through medivacs to ghosts and liberators is fine. It's not needed for every race to be forced to wait for a lot of tech buildings to be good.
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On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech?
Zerg has the ling bane muta option but isn't limited to it. Plus you can (have to) transition out of it. Protoss the same really, even with adepts
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On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech?
Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support
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On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support
mothership core + support
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On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support
and everyone hated that
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On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support
Now they're pylons + adepts. Hmm.
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On May 29 2017 20:06 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support and everyone hated that
I didn't
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did they just say 30 minute break?..........
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On May 29 2017 20:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support mothership core + support
Pylons + support
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On May 29 2017 20:06 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support and everyone hated that
Protoss still uses lower tier to protect higher tier and not just Colossi
You don't have to agree obviously but in my opinion Terran is a bit boring in regard of teching up and transitioning
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On May 29 2017 20:11 Charoisaur wrote:
did they just say 30 minute break?..........
yup.
queue some ladder games!
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On May 29 2017 20:13 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 20:06 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support and everyone hated that Protoss still uses lower tier to protect higher tier and not just Colossi You don't have to agree obviously but in my opinion Terran is a bit boring in regard of teching up and transitioning
In HotS I'd agree but now terran has to transition into Ghost/liberator in lategame.
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On May 29 2017 20:13 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 20:06 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support and everyone hated that Protoss still uses lower tier to protect higher tier and not just Colossi You don't have to agree obviously but in my opinion Terran is a bit boring in regard of teching up and transitioning
It's StarCraft not Civilization, the game isn't about unlocking killer tech and that's a good thing. TvT is super varied, TvZ has two main paths but with varied openings. Sure TvP is rubbish to watch, but that's a problem not on the T side.
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On May 29 2017 20:17 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 20:13 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 20:06 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support and everyone hated that Protoss still uses lower tier to protect higher tier and not just Colossi You don't have to agree obviously but in my opinion Terran is a bit boring in regard of teching up and transitioning It's StarCraft not Civilization, the game isn't about unlocking killer tech and that's a good thing. TvT is super varied, TvZ has two main paths but with varied openings. Sure TvP is rubbish to watch, but that's a problem not on the T side.
you say that as if civilization isn't a professionally played game :p
Look, I obviously still like SC2 or I wouldn't be here but I always thought bio is too strong and in imo limiting terran options
I for one would like to see terran having to transition out of bio balls
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On May 29 2017 20:22 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2017 20:17 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 20:13 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 20:06 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 20:05 Durnuu wrote:On May 29 2017 19:44 Charoisaur wrote:On May 29 2017 19:41 Penev wrote:On May 29 2017 19:36 opisska wrote:On May 29 2017 19:27 Penev wrote:
one of the things bw does better: bio medics instead of beams coming from the sky What makes it better? The inherent extra mobility of terran due to them accidentally always having dropships around is quite fun. I have a problem with bio in SC2, I don't like that the race masses low tier units and only builds tech to support the low tier ball Instead of the other way around (low tier units supporting higher tier tech) isn't it the same with the other races? Ling bane + high tech? Mass adepts + high tech? Protoss used to be (mostly) Colossus + support and everyone hated that Protoss still uses lower tier to protect higher tier and not just Colossi You don't have to agree obviously but in my opinion Terran is a bit boring in regard of teching up and transitioning It's StarCraft not Civilization, the game isn't about unlocking killer tech and that's a good thing. TvT is super varied, TvZ has two main paths but with varied openings. Sure TvP is rubbish to watch, but that's a problem not on the T side. you say that as if civilization isn't a professionally played game :p Look, I obviously still like SC2 or I wouldn't be here but I always thought bio is too strong and in imo limiting terran options I for one would like to see terran having to transition out of bio balls
Somebody bring back Fantasy and his sexy bio into mech build
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What we really need is a Civilization mod with only Adepts
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Poor INno, getting bullied like that.
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