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Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
May 24 2017 17:50 GMT
#141
I guess the other $2200 he collected is going on "administration" costs
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
May 24 2017 18:07 GMT
#142
On May 24 2017 10:10 Shellshock wrote:
wow aLive actually registered
wants that ez money



isnt Hyva also signed up for this tourney ?
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
gtbex
Profile Joined March 2017
Poland39 Posts
May 24 2017 18:19 GMT
#143
If this mod is so Terran favoured, then ppl just play Terran and win ez 300$
Pressure!
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
May 24 2017 18:22 GMT
#144
62 signups so far, that's pretty damn good :o

Kind of surprising in my opinion that people expected the full 2.7k to go towards a single tournament. The balance changes aside, it's clear he put time / effort into organizing this. I guess I might feel shafted if I had donated to him for DH Austin, but then again, maybe he will do more of this balance test tournaments in the future, i'm a glass half-full kind of guy i guess
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JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
May 24 2017 18:50 GMT
#145
I'm no lover of the pylon overcharge, however :

On May 23 2017 17:13 avilo wrote:
MSC photon overcharge has been changed. If a pylon has an enemy building within it's power radius, photon overcharge cannot be used. This will put an end to pylon under the ramp cheeses.



This could allow terrans to rush protosses by building an ebay/a supply where they want to attack. The silly situation of the "tower rush with supply buildings" would just be reversed.
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
May 24 2017 19:24 GMT
#146
On May 25 2017 03:50 JackONeill wrote:
I'm no lover of the pylon overcharge, however :

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 17:13 avilo wrote:
MSC photon overcharge has been changed. If a pylon has an enemy building within it's power radius, photon overcharge cannot be used. This will put an end to pylon under the ramp cheeses.



This could allow terrans to rush protosses by building an ebay/a supply where they want to attack. The silly situation of the "tower rush with supply buildings" would just be reversed.

Yeah I thought of this as well. I hope some of these games are hilariously stupid.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 24 2017 20:10 GMT
#147
On May 25 2017 03:19 gtbex wrote:
If this mod is so Terran favoured, then ppl just play Terran and win ez 300$


Everyone could play Terran but doesn't mean ez 300$ when it's TvT .
When I think of something else, something will go here
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 24 2017 20:44 GMT
#148
On May 24 2017 14:00 FarmI3oy wrote:
I find it sad that a meager player such as Avilo has taken it upon himself to do something about the state of this game. Yet, he receives criticism from people such as TLO and other notable players for attempting to do something.

Despite some of these changes being purely insane, at least he is trying to do something. For that I must give him kudos.

To those who criticize someone for doing something they are passionate about, shame on you. You are a fucking joke of a human being to sit there and throw bombs at someone trying to rebuild the house in which you reside. Even if they suck at patching up the leaks, at least they are trying.


The only reason those 500 dollars even exist is because the community wanted to help Avilo go to Dreamhack. If the donation tag said like, "Pay my bills for the month - goal: $700" far less people would be inclined to donate. But no, it was for a specific purpose, and with the number of people accusing him of being a scammer, he felt pressure to host a tournament. If all the rest of the money was spent on bills and shit, what was he planning before? To go to Dreamhack, then have no money for three months? Come on, you cannot be that stupid.

There's no way Avilo would ever go to Dreamhack as a competitor, because it would force him to admit that some of his shortcomings are actually his own fault. You can't scream, "This guy is stream-cheating! We got ourselves a stream-cheaterino, people." or "This guy is a hacker. Oh my god, he's blatantly hacking. We got ourselves a hackerino, folks, he didn't even scan before moving his units." when the person is sitting across from him. The only thing left to do, therefore, is to rip on the development team at Blizzard, which he has consistently done to compensate for his own inadequacies.

This whole thing allows Avilo to keep a majority of the money and avoid being labelled as a 'scammerino', which should be obvious at this point. He didn't even make the map. He just wrote down a bunch of changes with no consideration to ZvP to buff the fuck out of mech, with the ultimate endgame being that his tournament will draw enough publicity to create a mob that will demand Blizzard change the game, and hopes Blizzard will cave and implement these horribad changes into the game. He's always encouraged his fanbase to spam the battle.net forums demanding that Blizzard change the game, because he's already been banned from the battle.net forum for doing so.

Avilo isn't even "passionate" about SC2. He just isn't good enough at any other game to even be considered competitive, so there's nowhere for him to go. All this talk of "saving esports" is a smoke-screen because he doesn't like the game, and wants to use his fame to bend the community in his favor to make Blizzard change the game to better suit the way he plays. Since he has absolutely no leverage, I can't imagine the developers ever listening to anything he has to say, since he has insulted them viciously. You know, the people who built the "house" you speak of. You know, the people who have put in countless hours to develop and balance the game. And it's easy to think of Blizzard as some nebulous entity, but in reality, there is a team that has an allotted budget, and have to work within the constraints of that budget. That's a reality that Avilo readily ignores to cuss out the people who made the game.

But if you really believe that Avilo is donating 500 dollars out of the goodness of his heart for something he's just so motherfucking passionate about, then I would request that the community give me 5000 dollars so I can also host a 700 dollars tournament. The tournament will take place on a map that I will get someone to make for me, and it will massively alter the gameplay to suit my whims. But please, do it for the community because I've got all this passion and shit.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
May 24 2017 20:45 GMT
#149
I could discuss everything in the changes but recombining air and mech attack upgrades and producing vikings from the factory. I'm all for buffing mech AA (which really needs it), but vikings from factories would give mech way too much strength deflecting unscouted air transitions.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-24 21:29:40
May 24 2017 21:23 GMT
#150
it'll be interesting to see if he puts any terms/conditions in writing the next time he does an event fund raiser... or maybe the resulting shit-show and finger-pointing is good for business?

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On May 25 2017 05:44 ninazerg wrote:
He just isn't good enough at any other game to even be considered competitive, so there's nowhere for him to go.

i heard a rumour on GR.Org that he bought the house he and his parents live in through money he won playing Command & Conquer ( C&C3 , Kane's Wrath, etc). Maybe he can confirm or deny that rumour seeing at its his thread.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
May 24 2017 22:09 GMT
#151
transformation servos doesn't work - you can upgrade it unlimited times and it won't kick in!
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Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
May 24 2017 22:13 GMT
#152
I expect avilo not to pay the winner because he will suspect him of cheating
gtbex
Profile Joined March 2017
Poland39 Posts
May 24 2017 22:15 GMT
#153
On May 25 2017 05:10 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2017 03:19 gtbex wrote:
If this mod is so Terran favoured, then ppl just play Terran and win ez 300$


Everyone could play Terran but doesn't mean ez 300$ when it's TvT .


Expect a Zerg or Protoss winning this, or maybe Terran using pure bio anyway lol
Pressure!
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
May 24 2017 22:42 GMT
#154
On May 24 2017 09:42 KaiserCommander wrote:
A series of quick points...

1) Aren't we talking about the two 1-post-accounts in page 2 that contained a very large text praising and defending Avilo and making the EXACT SAME POINTS Avilo do in his streams?

2) Unlike you Avilo, TLO is a professional Starcraft 2 player, you will never be close to the level knowedge any professional player has from the game and if a real professional player states your troll material is useless there is a high chance that said material is actually crap.

3) TLO is praised by the COMMUNITY as a player that can be recognized for his creativity. He never stated he is the most creative porfessionak player in Starcraft 2 (just like you're know for beign a crybaby, flammer, unskilled piece of...)

4) You totally dismissed any other non-Terran matchup in your proposed chages, is evident the sole purpose of this mod is to favor mech and not "balance".

5) You don't need to personally test a giant dildo if you know it will go up your arse to foresee the consequenses of doing it, The same for your claim "but you've not testes it bruhhhh".

6) You're the clown, the rat, the waste of the streamers. Your level of play is not enough to have advaced understandment of the game as this circus shows it, so tell me, how are you smart snough to balance this game?


^THIS SO MUCH - all six points
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
dalaiisc2
Profile Joined May 2016
18 Posts
May 24 2017 22:54 GMT
#155
dont wanna say anything to the changes, because theres allrdy enough said about it also dont wanna talk about avilos intentions for this tournament. maybe its because he dont wanna be labelled as a scammer or whatever, doesnt matter to me. im just really afraid, that this whole tournament will be a bug fest. he played his mod yesterday or so and there were several bugs in it, like the transformation upgrade for vikings didnt work etc.

its really nice to see, that hes making a tournament and im sure, that over 1k people will watch his stream, BUT if you put that much money on the line, you should really make sure, that there are no game breaking bugs in this mod. this needs time, so imo, this tournament should start in maybe around 2-3 weeks and not this weekend, so that it can be tested.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 24 2017 23:11 GMT
#156
On May 25 2017 07:09 PiGStarcraft wrote:
transformation servos doesn't work - you can upgrade it unlimited times and it won't kick in!


Thanks we are fixing this. Darkblizzard aka deathbringer is the one that coded the editor, i think it might be because of the new viking/hellion skins, i'll upload with changes soon. Thanks for pointing it out found out about it yesterday as well, for now try using base viking/hellion skins and it should work.
Sup
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
May 24 2017 23:14 GMT
#157
ByuN and Solar are signed up.
This will be interesting.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
May 24 2017 23:48 GMT
#158
On May 25 2017 08:14 Charoisaur wrote:
ByuN and Solar are signed up.
This will be interesting.


Korean Terran in a terran favored patch should go well. Not saying that Byun wouldn't have won otherwise, but I can imagine him just bunker rushing Protoss and going "luls no photon overcharge for you"
ThaiStixxx
Profile Joined May 2017
2 Posts
May 25 2017 02:53 GMT
#159
Are we allowed to use Swarm Host in this tournament?
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-25 03:05:32
May 25 2017 03:00 GMT
#160
Would appreciate if high profile players and others here stop slandering my name. I'm a twitch streamer. I get donations as part of my streaming income. I'm using some of my own income i personally make as a streamer to put up the $500 prize pool myself.

$500 is a ton of money for an SC2 tournament, if you don't like the prize pool, please offer to help me find a sponsor for the tourney, or offer to contribute $$$ yourself.

What i personally do with my bank account or what i do with money i earn from twitch streaming is quite honestly no one's business here. I was very transparent about my twitch DH donation goal and the entire reason for me making this tournament in the first place is to put back some of the money i earned on twitch to the SC2 community.

Honestly you Starcraft people are acting like fucking spoiled brats. SC2 is a dead game comparatively to what it used to be, spending $500 of my income on an SC2 tourney is essentially like burning a pile of cash.

But it is quite a bit, and hopefully the tourney will get a lot of views and prove a point that the game we all know and love can get bigger changes without the game being broken.

There are a lot of good players signed up right now, and i'd encourage people to test the mod, try out the changes, i think this will be a really surprisingly good tournament with great games and the changes put into action will surprise people.

Also, if anyone finds anymore bugs please let me or darkblizzard know. There should be a new version of the mod uploaded tonight that addresses the viking/hellion changes that weren't working.

Also p.s. all the people that quite honestly are saying negative shit about my tournament are part of the symptom and problem of what is wrong with this community. Here and on reddit...anyone that tries to do ANYTHING or make any content, or do ANYTHING for this community basically gets shit on for absolutely no reason. It's no wonder most content creators have left SC2 - the negative fuckfaces keep driving everyone away from this game. Please stop it.
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