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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 07 2017 17:22 GMT
#101
On January 08 2017 02:20 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:19 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:16 ArtyK wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:15 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft

no, every unit should be playable in some situations, and that's always been the case with carriers. I don't see a way to make them actually a good unit for the game, they're possibly the most a-move and mindless unit in Starcraft


its gonna take more than that to beat wol colossi or hots SHs as most amove

SH's actually took skill, aside from games on Overgrowth, it was always the better playing winning. SH turtle was the hardest ZvP style to play, while mass carrier is the easiest PvZ. pretty big difference if you ask me


i thought we were talking micro wise

when you went SH's, you had to also make queen/viper/corruptor/infestor

and also, there's much more to the game than micro, carriers are just very basic in every fundamental part of Starcraft - basic macro, basic micro, basic positioning, basic composition
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-07 17:23:17
January 07 2017 17:23 GMT
#102
On January 08 2017 02:22 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:20 ArtyK wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:19 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:16 ArtyK wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:15 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft

no, every unit should be playable in some situations, and that's always been the case with carriers. I don't see a way to make them actually a good unit for the game, they're possibly the most a-move and mindless unit in Starcraft


its gonna take more than that to beat wol colossi or hots SHs as most amove

SH's actually took skill, aside from games on Overgrowth, it was always the better playing winning. SH turtle was the hardest ZvP style to play, while mass carrier is the easiest PvZ. pretty big difference if you ask me


i thought we were talking micro wise

when you went SH's, you had to also make queen/viper/corruptor/infestor

and also, there's much more to the game than micro, carriers are just very basic in every fundamental part of Starcraft - basic macro, basic micro, basic positioning, basic composition


Yeah i was simply talking about per unit micro management
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 07 2017 17:23 GMT
#103
Neosteel Enthusiast
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
January 07 2017 17:23 GMT
#104
On January 08 2017 02:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/817781566126563328


We all know that's what starcraft AI will use to beat pros in the future
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 07 2017 17:23 GMT
#105
There will be a new champion.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
January 07 2017 17:24 GMT
#106
On January 08 2017 02:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/817781566126563328

Snute's mistake was therefore that he didn't neural a probe to tech to his own carriers.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 07 2017 17:24 GMT
#107
On January 08 2017 02:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/817781566126563328

Snute's mistake was therefore that he didn't neural a probe to tech to his own carriers.

Probably the only way you can win as zerg
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
January 07 2017 17:25 GMT
#108
On January 08 2017 02:23 Boucot wrote:
There will be a new champion.

Korea is kind of a champion, they won NationWars 2.5 (Norway vs Korea)
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 07 2017 17:25 GMT
#109
On January 08 2017 02:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/817781566126563328

Snute's mistake was therefore that he didn't neural a probe to tech to his own carriers.

Give 21 range neural parasite pls
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
January 07 2017 17:25 GMT
#110
On January 08 2017 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:24 Elentos wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/817781566126563328

Snute's mistake was therefore that he didn't neural a probe to tech to his own carriers.

Probably the only way you can win as zerg


If that became the meta Scarlett would win Blizzcon.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 07 2017 17:25 GMT
#111
On January 08 2017 02:23 Boucot wrote:
There will be a new champion.

bold
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
January 07 2017 17:26 GMT
#112
I bet Neeb is going to do the same as Zest.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 07 2017 17:26 GMT
#113
On January 08 2017 02:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:23 Boucot wrote:
There will be a new champion.

Korea is kind of a champion, they won NationWars 2.5 (Norway vs Korea)

That was a showmatch, not a real tournament.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
January 07 2017 17:27 GMT
#114
On January 08 2017 02:25 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:23 Boucot wrote:
There will be a new champion.

bold


uThermal?
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16077 Posts
January 07 2017 17:27 GMT
#115
On January 08 2017 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:24 Elentos wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/817781566126563328

Snute's mistake was therefore that he didn't neural a probe to tech to his own carriers.

Probably the only way you can win as zerg

back in the SH era I played a game against a zerg who neuraled my scv and teched up to mass raven himself
-then he lost horribly because he had no experience how to play with mass raven.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
January 07 2017 17:27 GMT
#116
On January 08 2017 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:24 Elentos wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/817781566126563328

Snute's mistake was therefore that he didn't neural a probe to tech to his own carriers.

Probably the only way you can win as zerg

That and burrowed neural parasite on the carriers so they kill themselves
Obviously you have to pray the protoss doesn't have detection
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 07 2017 17:27 GMT
#117
On January 08 2017 02:25 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:23 Boucot wrote:
There will be a new champion.

bold

There will be a new champion.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-07 17:29:08
January 07 2017 17:28 GMT
#118
On January 08 2017 02:22 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:21 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
No idea why the pickup range is that big from a warprism

More "micro".

Indeed :D , shame medivac and overlords dont have that potential despite the gas investment.
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 07 2017 17:28 GMT
#119
On January 08 2017 02:27 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:25 Makro wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:23 Boucot wrote:
There will be a new champion.

bold


uThermal?

if netherlands wins we can turn the flag and pretend it was france all long, i'm fine with it
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
January 07 2017 17:30 GMT
#120
Didn't Nate get top 4 in an Olimoleague once?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
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