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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#61
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#62
On January 08 2017 02:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
It's funny how Carriers went from a hype unit when they were rare too a super anti hype unit when they are legit

Thats about the only funny thing about them. Terrible unit that allows P to win with absolute no micro with ease.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#63
Have hydras ever won vs carriers after the initial bust failed?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#64
uhh Snute needed to all-in with banes and hope Zest can't micro I guess
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#65
That was like watching a hammer against chips.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#66
Seems like Norse Gods doesn't have power over such far parts of Earth as South Korea. Pls buff range
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#67
On January 08 2017 02:10 Elentos wrote:
Have hydras ever won vs carriers after the initial bust failed?


well ofc not, the initial bust failed :>
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#68
On January 08 2017 02:10 Boucot wrote:
That was like watching a hammer against chips.


but who has to clean up the mess?
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#69
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#70
On January 08 2017 02:10 Alchemik wrote:
uhh Snute needed to all-in with banes and hope Zest can't micro I guess

Judging from the first 2 games he can't so that would have been a decent idea
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#71
On January 08 2017 02:10 Boucot wrote:
That was like watching a hammer against chips.

mmm... chips. Now I'm craving some chips. Damn you!
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 07 2017 17:13 GMT
#72
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 07 2017 17:14 GMT
#73
The solution is to give hydras +1 range :D
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
January 07 2017 17:14 GMT
#74
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft


how can you make such a unit work without making it completly amove though, it'd need a major redesign
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16092 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#75
On January 08 2017 02:10 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
It's funny how Carriers went from a hype unit when they were rare too a super anti hype unit when they are legit

Thats about the only funny thing about them. Terrible unit that allows P to win with absolute no micro with ease.

I have no problem with them being played from time to time.
but when carrier turtle becomes one of the best ways to play the game there's a problem.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#76
On January 08 2017 02:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The solution is to give hydras +1 range :D


bring back the warhound while you're at it
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#77
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft

no, every unit should be playable in some situations, and that's always been the case with carriers. I don't see a way to make them actually a good unit for the game, they're possibly the most a-move and mindless unit in Starcraft
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#78
On January 08 2017 02:14 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft


how can you make such a unit work without making it completly amove though, it'd need a major redesign

You have to individually micro every interceptor
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16092 Posts
January 07 2017 17:16 GMT
#79
On January 08 2017 02:14 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft


how can you make such a unit work without making it completly amove though, it'd need a major redesign

carriers aren't complete amove though, you can micro them back after interceptors are out to avoid taking damage.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 07 2017 17:16 GMT
#80
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

you just summed up conservative politics
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