• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:00
CET 01:00
KST 09:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 101SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1820Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1264 users

[NationWars IV] Quarter Finals - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 37 38 39 Next All
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#61
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#62
On January 08 2017 02:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
It's funny how Carriers went from a hype unit when they were rare too a super anti hype unit when they are legit

Thats about the only funny thing about them. Terrible unit that allows P to win with absolute no micro with ease.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#63
Have hydras ever won vs carriers after the initial bust failed?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#64
uhh Snute needed to all-in with banes and hope Zest can't micro I guess
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#65
That was like watching a hammer against chips.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#66
Seems like Norse Gods doesn't have power over such far parts of Earth as South Korea. Pls buff range
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#67
On January 08 2017 02:10 Elentos wrote:
Have hydras ever won vs carriers after the initial bust failed?


well ofc not, the initial bust failed :>
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#68
On January 08 2017 02:10 Boucot wrote:
That was like watching a hammer against chips.


but who has to clean up the mess?
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#69
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#70
On January 08 2017 02:10 Alchemik wrote:
uhh Snute needed to all-in with banes and hope Zest can't micro I guess

Judging from the first 2 games he can't so that would have been a decent idea
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#71
On January 08 2017 02:10 Boucot wrote:
That was like watching a hammer against chips.

mmm... chips. Now I'm craving some chips. Damn you!
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 07 2017 17:13 GMT
#72
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 07 2017 17:14 GMT
#73
The solution is to give hydras +1 range :D
Neosteel Enthusiast
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
January 07 2017 17:14 GMT
#74
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft


how can you make such a unit work without making it completly amove though, it'd need a major redesign
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#75
On January 08 2017 02:10 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
It's funny how Carriers went from a hype unit when they were rare too a super anti hype unit when they are legit

Thats about the only funny thing about them. Terrible unit that allows P to win with absolute no micro with ease.

I have no problem with them being played from time to time.
but when carrier turtle becomes one of the best ways to play the game there's a problem.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#76
On January 08 2017 02:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The solution is to give hydras +1 range :D


bring back the warhound while you're at it
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#77
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft

no, every unit should be playable in some situations, and that's always been the case with carriers. I don't see a way to make them actually a good unit for the game, they're possibly the most a-move and mindless unit in Starcraft
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#78
On January 08 2017 02:14 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft


how can you make such a unit work without making it completly amove though, it'd need a major redesign

You have to individually micro every interceptor
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
January 07 2017 17:16 GMT
#79
On January 08 2017 02:14 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

Why not try to make it work? Don't see the issue tbh, units which are iconic for starcraft should be playable in starcraft


how can you make such a unit work without making it completly amove though, it'd need a major redesign

carriers aren't complete amove though, you can micro them back after interceptors are out to avoid taking damage.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 07 2017 17:16 GMT
#80
On January 08 2017 02:11 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 Alchemik wrote:
I really wonder why carriers actually need to be viable, with how absolutely devoid of micro or any thought they are

Because it's an iconic unit. The problem is that it doesn't work nearly as well as in bw

and what kind of reason is that? "oh, we need it, it was cool 10 years ago", like what?

you just summed up conservative politics
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 37 38 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:00
Best Games of SC
Reynor vs Clem
MaxPax vs TBD
SHIN vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
PiGStarcraft683
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft683
elazer 217
ProTech146
SpeCial 113
JuggernautJason44
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 70
Sexy 62
Dota 2
syndereN710
XaKoH 478
League of Legends
C9.Mang0251
Counter-Strike
summit1g5432
minikerr21
Other Games
tarik_tv7021
Mew2King72
ViBE71
PPMD55
ZombieGrub34
Liquid`Ken2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 67
• davetesta43
• RyuSc2 35
• HeavenSC 14
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki95
• RayReign 51
• HerbMon 15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2645
League of Legends
• Doublelift3719
Other Games
• imaqtpie3461
• Shiphtur336
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
3h
OSC
12h
IPSL
17h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
18h
OSC
1d 12h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S1: W2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.