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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 05 2016 23:25 GMT
#6241
On November 06 2016 08:25 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 08:23 Elentos wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:22 opisska wrote:
I don't understand these Zerg engagements when they continue to send small groups of ling bane instead of sending everything at once so that all the banes can't be killed before they even get to the bio. What is the reason so many top Zergs play like this?

To trigger widow mines


But you need to send just like 20-30 lings first and then ALL of the banes at once witt the rest of the banes. Not a ragtag group of both, and then another, and then another ...


Then one widow mine kills all the lings and the other widow mines still trigger.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 05 2016 23:25 GMT
#6242
On November 06 2016 08:25 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 08:24 lastride wrote:
4k more viewrs and we break the 100k barrier

100039 for me now

We did it Reddit!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 05 2016 23:25 GMT
#6243
On November 06 2016 08:24 Elentos wrote:
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On November 06 2016 08:23 Poopi wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:22 Alchemik wrote:
yeah, this is over, if you lose on a Zerg map in this map pool you're dead

Remember that the mappool is Z favored :x

Still playing on King Sejong - best Terran map.


I don't think KSS is the best terran map. Earlier in the season yes, but zergs have been doing better on it recently. I still think it's bad for Zerg, but no worse than Galactic Process.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
November 05 2016 23:25 GMT
#6244
On November 06 2016 08:24 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
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On November 06 2016 08:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:15 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:15 Solar424 wrote:
Hellions: the original Adepts.


Remember when Infernal Pre-Igniters gave +10 damage?


it was +15
Slayers came to MLG and the terrans dominated the event.


I remember prior to that Terrans telling me that Hellions were garbage and they wished Vultures were in the game.

The blue terran commando
TL+ Member
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6245
Has anyone ever won the last GSL of the season and then blizzcon right after?
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6246
I don't know how but we did it boys

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Neosteel Enthusiast
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6247
2K more for top game on twitch
bisu
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6248
On November 06 2016 08:25 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 08:25 opisska wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:23 Elentos wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:22 opisska wrote:
I don't understand these Zerg engagements when they continue to send small groups of ling bane instead of sending everything at once so that all the banes can't be killed before they even get to the bio. What is the reason so many top Zergs play like this?

To trigger widow mines


But you need to send just like 20-30 lings first and then ALL of the banes at once witt the rest of the banes. Not a ragtag group of both, and then another, and then another ...


Then one widow mine kills all the lings and the other widow mines still trigger.


The lings need to be split. We have seen Dark can do that.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6249
On November 06 2016 08:25 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 08:23 Elentos wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:22 opisska wrote:
I don't understand these Zerg engagements when they continue to send small groups of ling bane instead of sending everything at once so that all the banes can't be killed before they even get to the bio. What is the reason so many top Zergs play like this?

To trigger widow mines


But you need to send just like 20-30 lings first and then ALL of the banes at once witt the rest of the banes. Not a ragtag group of both, and then another, and then another ...

because you buy time when defending, you hold parade pushes by stalling them out
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18420 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6250
did a terran ever win blizzcon?
Fireflies
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom211 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6251
On November 06 2016 08:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Both players have been playing really formulaic so far.


I agree, where are the Raven/BC/Thor vs Swarm Host/Infestor/corruptor games? It's like they want to wn.
One giant leap for mankind
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6252
On November 06 2016 08:26 ArtyK wrote:
Has anyone ever won the last GSL of the season and then blizzcon right after?


No
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6253
On November 06 2016 08:26 sharkie wrote:
did a terran ever win blizzcon?


MMA
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6254
On November 06 2016 08:22 opisska wrote:
I don't understand these Zerg engagements when they continue to send small groups of ling bane instead of sending everything at once so that all the banes can't be killed before they even get to the bio. What is the reason so many top Zergs play like this?

Widow mine.
also Dark at the end was running out of option
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55551 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6255
On November 06 2016 08:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 08:24 Elentos wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:23 Poopi wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:22 Alchemik wrote:
yeah, this is over, if you lose on a Zerg map in this map pool you're dead

Remember that the mappool is Z favored :x

Still playing on King Sejong - best Terran map.


I don't think KSS is the best terran map. Earlier in the season yes, but zergs have been doing better on it recently. I still think it's bad for Zerg, but no worse than Galactic Process.

It's overall the best Terran map, not TvZ specific.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 23:27:05
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6256
On November 06 2016 08:25 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 08:23 Elentos wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:22 opisska wrote:
I don't understand these Zerg engagements when they continue to send small groups of ling bane instead of sending everything at once so that all the banes can't be killed before they even get to the bio. What is the reason so many top Zergs play like this?

To trigger widow mines


But you need to send just like 20-30 lings first and then ALL of the banes at once witt the rest of the banes. Not a ragtag group of both, and then another, and then another ...

that actually a terrible strategy. the initial ling squad will get decimated without any chance of doing damage, and the terran can just burrow/unburrow. the small baneling squads at least can kill stuff
TL+ Member
B42b42oss4
Profile Joined May 2015
Germany40 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6257
On November 06 2016 08:22 opisska wrote:
I don't understand these Zerg engagements when they continue to send small groups of ling bane instead of sending everything at once so that all the banes can't be killed before they even get to the bio. What is the reason so many top Zergs play like this?


When T has widowmines you can't just a move, because you can loose your complete ling bane Army to 2 or 3 Widowmines. So you shove of a fith or so from your army try to trigger the widowmines and then attack. If you send not enough the bio might kill the stuff before the widowmines are triggered. IF you send to much, you might loose too much .......
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6258
On November 06 2016 08:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 08:24 Elentos wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:23 Poopi wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:22 Alchemik wrote:
yeah, this is over, if you lose on a Zerg map in this map pool you're dead

Remember that the mappool is Z favored :x

Still playing on King Sejong - best Terran map.


I don't think KSS is the best terran map. Earlier in the season yes, but zergs have been doing better on it recently. I still think it's bad for Zerg, but no worse than Galactic Process.

Also what the stats about maps don't tell is that zergs might win more on certain maps, but it might be okay for players like ByuN. That's why on close % maps it can be hard to gauge.
WriterMaru
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9391 Posts
November 05 2016 23:26 GMT
#6259
Tasteless is the best "fluff" caster in the world.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
November 05 2016 23:27 GMT
#6260
On November 06 2016 08:25 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 08:23 Elentos wrote:
On November 06 2016 08:22 opisska wrote:
I don't understand these Zerg engagements when they continue to send small groups of ling bane instead of sending everything at once so that all the banes can't be killed before they even get to the bio. What is the reason so many top Zergs play like this?

To trigger widow mines


But you need to send just like 20-30 lings first and then ALL of the banes at once witt the rest of the banes. Not a ragtag group of both, and then another, and then another ...

you need to send in small groups of ling/bane, it helps with widow mines and it's very easy to mess up as the Terran
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