EPT[WCS] Copa Intercontinental - Page 46
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
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Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
im an old sc bw player and don't follow the esports for sc2. (long time without login in here!) i saw some advertising for this tournament and watch some games. can someone answer some silly questions? Where are the koreans? (just one). On sc1 99,9% of the best players were korean. how is the scenario for sc2? Koreans still dominate or not that much? there are 2 player left with "team liquid" as team. On sc1 we had some player but well...with koreans dominating they would only fight on non-korean tournaments. Is tl.net strong on sc2? | ||
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Topin
Peru10128 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On September 11 2016 12:59 Kacas wrote: hi guys, im an old sc bw player and don't follow the esports for sc2. (long time without login in here!) i saw some advertising for this tournament and watch some games. can someone answer some silly questions? Where are the koreans? (just one). On sc1 99,9% of the best players were korean. how is the scenario for sc2? Koreans still dominate or not that much? there are 2 player left with "team liquid" as team. On sc1 we had some player but well...with koreans dominating they would only fight on non-korean tournaments. Is tl.net strong on sc2? The WCS format barred the majority of Koreans from playing in overseas (Non-Korea) tourneys as Koreans were dominating too hard, and they wanted to try something different to try boost the foreign scene. There is still 4 or so Koreans playing in WCS through Visas or whatever and in general they are among the better players. Koreans are generally still accepted to be stronger, but since there is no cross competiton it's hard to say if the foreign scene is catching up or not. I guess we'll see at Blizzcon. TL is one of the strongest foreign teams, they used to also have two very strong Korean players (Who played in WCS) who they just recently parted ways with. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 11 2016 12:59 Kacas wrote: hi guys, im an old sc bw player and don't follow the esports for sc2. (long time without login in here!) i saw some advertising for this tournament and watch some games. can someone answer some silly questions? Where are the koreans? (just one). On sc1 99,9% of the best players were korean. how is the scenario for sc2? Koreans still dominate or not that much? there are 2 player left with "team liquid" as team. On sc1 we had some player but well...with koreans dominating they would only fight on non-korean tournaments. Is tl.net strong on sc2? This tournament is part of the WCS Circuit which is region-locked so most Koreans aren't eligible to play in it. A few are due to Visas, but most of them failed to qualify for this particular tournament. The Korean tournaments are the GSL (whose finals was yesterday) and the SSL (whose finals is in 5 hours. Watch it if you can!) In SCII the best players are still Korean, but it's much closer than in SCI, so it isn't too unusual to see top non-Korean pros win series against Korean players. Exactly how good non-Koreans are compared to Korean is still a point of contention among the community. As for Team Liquid, its team is fairly strong with Snute and uThermal who are both top foreign pros, and has been strong throughout most of SCII. TaeJa (Korean) used to be on Team Liquid before his retirement and was one of the Greatest Players of All Time™. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
On September 11 2016 13:13 Phredxor wrote: The WCS format barred the majority of Koreans from playing in overseas (Non-Korea) tourneys as Koreans were dominating too hard, and they wanted to try something different to try boost the foreign scene. There is still 4 or so Koreans playing in WCS through Visas or whatever and in general they are among the better players. Koreans are generally still accepted to be stronger, but since there is no cross competiton it's hard to say if the foreign scene is catching up or not. I guess we'll see at Blizzcon. TL is one of the strongest foreign teams, they used to also have two very strong Korean players (Who played in WCS) who they just recently parted ways with. I forget, but did HerO leave because of the region lock? I know Taeja left because he got more prestige getting ro8 GSL instead of ro8 WCS America. The only thing I would add to that is that the foreign scene has begun to do a bit better in online cups. And that's super relevant now that Byun won GSL. I would say that the number of times Polt/Hydra/True have not all qualified for certain events is somewhat indicative of the foreign scene's strength because these players are some of the better players, but they are not necessarily the best players (or at the very least they are not the best by a large margin). | ||
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Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
tomorrow i will cheer for tl.net players despite not knowing any player! | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On September 11 2016 14:20 Kacas wrote: thanks guys for answering so fast! tomorrow i will cheer for tl.net players despite not knowing any player! Snute is one of the nicest and most hard working players out there, cheering for him is a good choice!  | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 11 2016 15:47 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches for day 1? Has games must have been great (as usually): https://www.twitch.tv/starcraft/v/88713593 | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
But anyway... Has games have been very disappointing. | ||
Poopi
France13021 Posts
Hydra still disappointing massively. Hopefully he'll have a better showing for Blizzcon. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On September 11 2016 15:47 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches for day 1? Uthermal vs Hydra game 2 was great And Has vs Snute game 1 and 3 | ||
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Biscuittzz
155 Posts
On September 11 2016 13:18 FrkFrJss wrote: I forget, but did HerO leave because of the region lock? I know Taeja left because he got more prestige getting ro8 GSL instead of ro8 WCS America. The only thing I would add to that is that the foreign scene has begun to do a bit better in online cups. And that's super relevant now that Byun won GSL. I would say that the number of times Polt/Hydra/True have not all qualified for certain events is somewhat indicative of the foreign scene's strength because these players are some of the better players, but they are not necessarily the best players (or at the very least they are not the best by a large margin). As far as I know, Polt hasn't failed to qualify for any WCS tournament this year, he has though chosen not to participate if I'm correct. Recent WCS Shanghai would be an example of one where he didn't go. So we can't say that the foreign scene is getting better if Koreans are willing opting out. Polt didn't attempt qualification for the Copa I believe but TRUE did. So this one is half and half. Polt also said on stream he may not go for Kespa Cup as the qualification is on KR and he can't handle the ping. Edit: I'm not demeaning your point as such just want to say that we can't use tournaments with no qualified Koreans as a barometer for KvF if they willingly choose not to enter. | ||
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lastride
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
lets go | ||
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ArtyK
France3144 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On September 12 2016 02:57 Soularion wrote: my boy UTHERMAL lets go for once I do not object this blatant TL bias | ||
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
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