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On August 14 2016 10:36 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:34 FataLe wrote:On August 14 2016 10:33 Solar424 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what she could have possibly done better that game. She saw the attack coming, split her army, built the "counter" to adepts, sniped the Warp Prism, and still lost. Adepts are the most flawed unit I have ever seen in SC2. That was straight up retarded. na she saw 4 adepts at the bushes. then made a full round of drones. then neeb warped in and pushed. watch the vod. Okay, so she makes one mistake and therefore loses. Seeing 4 adepts can mean literally anything. Fucking love how well designed this matchup is. Well done Blizz, SC2 is better than it's ever been, just keep listening to your echo chamber and watch the viewers and playerbase leave.
I mean, she did hold it, but she didn't pull her drones ever, and so lost literally 45 drones to the attack. She could've lost fewer drones by even just attacking with them, since she literally lost every drone in her main and third. She took a ridiculous amount of damage. If she'd had twice as many drones after that first all-in -- that is, lose only 21 (!) drones --, she could've easily held the followup since she wouldn't have had to drone up afterwards.
That was pretty preventable, nothing balance-related here.
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TRUE will give a schooling to whoever he faces in the finals after 3-0ing Heromarine anyway
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On August 14 2016 10:39 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:36 Solar424 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:34 FataLe wrote:On August 14 2016 10:33 Solar424 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what she could have possibly done better that game. She saw the attack coming, split her army, built the "counter" to adepts, sniped the Warp Prism, and still lost. Adepts are the most flawed unit I have ever seen in SC2. That was straight up retarded. na she saw 4 adepts at the bushes. then made a full round of drones. then neeb warped in and pushed. watch the vod. Okay, so she makes one mistake and therefore loses. Seeing 4 adepts can mean literally anything. Fucking love how well designed this matchup is. Well done Blizz, SC2 is better than it's ever been, just keep listening to your echo chamber and watch the viewers and playerbase leave. well to an all in, with the way z macro is set up, yes.. but i don't mean that adepts aren't broken. but if you miss the critical part of your opponents build and you do the worst response, it almost should mean gg, but adepts certainly help to cement it. Scarlett almost scouted but she didn't redirect her ovie soon enough, pvz meta rn almost has no aa on the map till a 3rd is taken.
Except she didn't make the worst response, she made a shit-ton of roaches and sniped the prism.
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why she didnt get ovie speed... i think you must get it to scout early
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On August 14 2016 10:40 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:39 Nerchio wrote:
I can't see Polt winning if he had troubles against Drogo Polt confirmed he's gonna play better tomorrow.
Doesn't matter, he'll need to play like a god to beat Neeb at this point.
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Oooh, Artosis throwing some shade your way Nerchio!
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On August 14 2016 10:40 theunabletable wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:36 Solar424 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:34 FataLe wrote:On August 14 2016 10:33 Solar424 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what she could have possibly done better that game. She saw the attack coming, split her army, built the "counter" to adepts, sniped the Warp Prism, and still lost. Adepts are the most flawed unit I have ever seen in SC2. That was straight up retarded. na she saw 4 adepts at the bushes. then made a full round of drones. then neeb warped in and pushed. watch the vod. Okay, so she makes one mistake and therefore loses. Seeing 4 adepts can mean literally anything. Fucking love how well designed this matchup is. Well done Blizz, SC2 is better than it's ever been, just keep listening to your echo chamber and watch the viewers and playerbase leave. I mean, she did hold it, but she didn't pull her drones ever, and so lost literally 45 drones to the attack. She could've lost fewer drones by even just attacking with them, since she literally lost every drone in her main and third. She took a ridiculous amount of damage. If she'd had twice as many drones after that first all-in -- that is, lose only 21 (!) drones --, she could've easily held the followup since she wouldn't have had to drone up afterwards. That was pretty preventable, nothing balance-related here.
Right! Not a fan of mass adept games ( to watch or play, in any side, specially against it) but Neeb had the better execution.
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Easy as expected against Scarlett.
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On August 14 2016 10:40 theunabletable wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:36 Solar424 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:34 FataLe wrote:On August 14 2016 10:33 Solar424 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what she could have possibly done better that game. She saw the attack coming, split her army, built the "counter" to adepts, sniped the Warp Prism, and still lost. Adepts are the most flawed unit I have ever seen in SC2. That was straight up retarded. na she saw 4 adepts at the bushes. then made a full round of drones. then neeb warped in and pushed. watch the vod. Okay, so she makes one mistake and therefore loses. Seeing 4 adepts can mean literally anything. Fucking love how well designed this matchup is. Well done Blizz, SC2 is better than it's ever been, just keep listening to your echo chamber and watch the viewers and playerbase leave. I mean, she did hold it, but she didn't pull her drones ever, and so lost literally 45 drones to the attack. She could've lost fewer drones by even just attacking with them, since she literally lost every drone in her main and third. She took a ridiculous amount of damage. If she'd had twice as many drones after that first all-in -- that is, lose only 21 (!) drones --, she could've easily held the followup since she wouldn't have had to drone up afterwards. That was pretty preventable, nothing balance-related here.
that's a pretty good analysis.
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On August 14 2016 10:38 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:37 blade55555 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:36 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 10:34 blade55555 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:34 Ace Frehley wrote:
How long did it take blizzard to tone down hellbats at the beginning of hots?
This is as retarded as hellbats were Not too long. I felt like hellbats got nerfed pretty quickly. But maybe in six months zergs will find the perfect combination of units to defeat this, and therefore nerfing is a mistake, right? Sure, but as a note that Mass adepts have been a thing since at least January. I remember facing this build a lot back then (haven't played as much lately, but it is still popular I see). I remember raging against it quiet a bit  Mass adepts have been a thing since they were introduced, and yet Blizzard refuses to nerf them harder.
Since release of LotV PvZ was in awful state for over half year, barely hovering above 40%. Blizz didn't do anything to fix that, and when toss found some answers (Immortals) it got instantly nerfed. Why don't we say "hey let's give zergs more time to adapt!"?
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I actually think that Heromarine might have a shot at winning this tournament
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On August 14 2016 10:40 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:39 FataLe wrote:On August 14 2016 10:36 Solar424 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:34 FataLe wrote:On August 14 2016 10:33 Solar424 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what she could have possibly done better that game. She saw the attack coming, split her army, built the "counter" to adepts, sniped the Warp Prism, and still lost. Adepts are the most flawed unit I have ever seen in SC2. That was straight up retarded. na she saw 4 adepts at the bushes. then made a full round of drones. then neeb warped in and pushed. watch the vod. Okay, so she makes one mistake and therefore loses. Seeing 4 adepts can mean literally anything. Fucking love how well designed this matchup is. Well done Blizz, SC2 is better than it's ever been, just keep listening to your echo chamber and watch the viewers and playerbase leave. well to an all in, with the way z macro is set up, yes.. but i don't mean that adepts aren't broken. but if you miss the critical part of your opponents build and you do the worst response, it almost should mean gg, but adepts certainly help to cement it. Scarlett almost scouted but she didn't redirect her ovie soon enough, pvz meta rn almost has no aa on the map till a 3rd is taken. Except she didn't make the worst response, she made a shit-ton of roaches and sniped the prism.
to stop the adept all in and come out at least even you need to make units earlier, and more.
perhaps worst was a strong word, but what im saying is that the game was almost certainly decided on that round of drones. The prism snipe was good, but not enough.
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Adepts have basically thrown any argument that SC2 is the best it's ever been out the window. There has been no single unit in SC2's history that has been that poorly designed and, not only allowed to be put into the final release of the game, has managed to stay just as broken for nearly a year. Guess we just have to wait for the next Community Feedback update for David Kim to tell us that the game is fine 
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On August 14 2016 10:38 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:37 Solar424 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:36 ArtyK wrote:On August 14 2016 10:36 Solar424 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:34 FataLe wrote:On August 14 2016 10:33 Solar424 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what she could have possibly done better that game. She saw the attack coming, split her army, built the "counter" to adepts, sniped the Warp Prism, and still lost. Adepts are the most flawed unit I have ever seen in SC2. That was straight up retarded. na she saw 4 adepts at the bushes. then made a full round of drones. then neeb warped in and pushed. watch the vod. Okay, so she makes one mistake and therefore loses. Fucking love how well designed this matchup is. Well done Blizz, SC2 is better than it's ever been, just keep listening to your echo chamber and watch the viewers and playerbase leave. payback for bl infestor Toss had Soul Train, so it balanced out back then. don't forget archon toilet
I miss Archon Toilet. 
Bring vortex back! Make Mothership great again!
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On August 14 2016 10:39 OsaX Nymloth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:34 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:33 Deathstar wrote:
Are adepts supposed to make this game more fun? Is this a joke? here is a good rule of thumb, if it takes less apm to execute harass than it does to stop it, it's too strong Widow Mines? Liberators? Shift-dropping bio? All require way more apm to defend from those. i like how this whole LR thread is now a salt mine. We have 1 toss in top4. Nerf instantly blizz pls!
you mistake salt for Scarlett losing with disgust caused by the third game
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The balance whine in this thread goes so well with that Nexus cancel cheese.
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On August 14 2016 10:43 Solar424 wrote:
There has been no single unit in SC2's history that has been that poorly designed
The marine...
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On August 14 2016 10:44 OsaX Nymloth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 10:38 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 10:37 Solar424 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:36 ArtyK wrote:On August 14 2016 10:36 Solar424 wrote:On August 14 2016 10:34 FataLe wrote:On August 14 2016 10:33 Solar424 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what she could have possibly done better that game. She saw the attack coming, split her army, built the "counter" to adepts, sniped the Warp Prism, and still lost. Adepts are the most flawed unit I have ever seen in SC2. That was straight up retarded. na she saw 4 adepts at the bushes. then made a full round of drones. then neeb warped in and pushed. watch the vod. Okay, so she makes one mistake and therefore loses. Fucking love how well designed this matchup is. Well done Blizz, SC2 is better than it's ever been, just keep listening to your echo chamber and watch the viewers and playerbase leave. payback for bl infestor Toss had Soul Train, so it balanced out back then. don't forget archon toilet I miss Archon Toilet. Bring vortex back! Make Mothership great again!
How can i forget archon toilet, i had KiWi in my sig since 2011
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On August 14 2016 10:43 Nerchio wrote:
I actually think that Heromarine might have a shot at winning this tournament
I expect TRUE to be very prepared and to want to erase that hsc snub
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