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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 10 2016 15:24 GMT
#1041
On August 11 2016 00:21 Makro wrote:
zest losing to taeja, with the third game being an excellent one

i have to watch it

also winning against zest just before retiring, that's something

It really wasn't that excellent at all.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 10 2016 15:25 GMT
#1042
On August 11 2016 00:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 00:21 Makro wrote:
zest losing to taeja, with the third game being an excellent one

i have to watch it

also winning against zest just before retiring, that's something

It really wasn't that excellent at all.


IT WAS
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 10 2016 15:35 GMT
#1043
On August 11 2016 00:25 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 00:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 11 2016 00:21 Makro wrote:
zest losing to taeja, with the third game being an excellent one

i have to watch it

also winning against zest just before retiring, that's something

It really wasn't that excellent at all.


IT WAS

Would it have the same amount of "excellent" votes if it was TANGTANG vs Blaze? (or close to it)
No
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
August 10 2016 15:37 GMT
#1044
I picked Zest & TaeJa, crap
WriterMaru
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
August 10 2016 15:45 GMT
#1045
Is TaeJa retiring soon?
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
August 10 2016 15:45 GMT
#1046
zest is best Kappa

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User was warned for this post
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
August 10 2016 15:53 GMT
#1047
Well he can still win SSL, he didn't win it when he won GSL so winning only one of the two is still a good achievement.
Hopefully Dark or TY manage to go to the finals tho, PvP all the way would be so boring.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
August 10 2016 16:15 GMT
#1048
On August 11 2016 00:45 -Strider- wrote:
Is TaeJa retiring soon?

He is retired since today.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 10 2016 16:17 GMT
#1049
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but has this happened to other great players before? By "this" I mean having such under performance repeated times in a day when you are so much better and the odds couldn't be more in your favor...

The only example that comes to my mind is Inno vs Duckdeok but Idk if Inno was so favorite in TvP back then...
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 10 2016 16:34 GMT
#1050
Game 1 Ryung vs Zest was funny. Maps in the day maps were so small that cheese would have been standard and built in Ryung's main.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 10 2016 16:44 GMT
#1051
On August 11 2016 01:17 Silvana wrote:
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but has this happened to other great players before? By "this" I mean having such under performance repeated times in a day when you are so much better and the odds couldn't be more in your favor...

The only example that comes to my mind is Inno vs Duckdeok but Idk if Inno was so favorite in TvP back then...


I always felt that one-day group play somewhat sold the quality of the Starleagues short, in that it allows for more element of luck to come into play.

1. Timing - Having a super bad day? Down with a slight flu? Major tournament tomorrow (e.g. Dark's GSL RO16 was a day before his SSL semis last season)? Too bad, just your luck.
2. Matchups - Having to prepare against 2-3 races whilst other players are preparing less? Too bad, just your luck.

I would prefer if they adopted the BW style - a player only ever has to prepare and play one match per day. Perhaps also do away with double elims format, but even keeping it is doable (Week 3 would only have one match from the group - Losers Finals).

(Not saying that Zest lost today for any of those reasons. But I feel that under a spread-out group format, the better player would stand a higher chance of advancing, due to the element of luck being reduced.)
gg no re thx
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
August 10 2016 16:51 GMT
#1052
On August 11 2016 01:44 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 01:17 Silvana wrote:
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but has this happened to other great players before? By "this" I mean having such under performance repeated times in a day when you are so much better and the odds couldn't be more in your favor...

The only example that comes to my mind is Inno vs Duckdeok but Idk if Inno was so favorite in TvP back then...


I always felt that one-day group play somewhat sold the quality of the Starleagues short, in that it allows for more element of luck to come into play.

1. Timing - Having a super bad day? Down with a slight flu? Major tournament tomorrow (e.g. Dark's GSL RO16 was a day before his SSL semis last season)? Too bad, just your luck.
2. Matchups - Having to prepare against 2-3 races whilst other players are preparing less? Too bad, just your luck.

I would prefer if they adopted the BW style - a player only ever has to prepare and play one match per day. Perhaps also do away with double elims format, but even keeping it is doable (Week 3 would only have one match from the group - Losers Finals).

(Not saying that Zest lost today for any of those reasons. But I feel that under a spread-out group format, the better player would stand a higher chance of advancing, due to the element of luck being reduced.)

I really find bo1 to be terrible for sc2
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
August 10 2016 16:52 GMT
#1053
Zest getting eliminated by the very players he himself picked during group selections... I guess that's what you call ironic.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 10 2016 16:52 GMT
#1054
On August 11 2016 01:51 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 01:44 RKC wrote:
On August 11 2016 01:17 Silvana wrote:
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but has this happened to other great players before? By "this" I mean having such under performance repeated times in a day when you are so much better and the odds couldn't be more in your favor...

The only example that comes to my mind is Inno vs Duckdeok but Idk if Inno was so favorite in TvP back then...


I always felt that one-day group play somewhat sold the quality of the Starleagues short, in that it allows for more element of luck to come into play.

1. Timing - Having a super bad day? Down with a slight flu? Major tournament tomorrow (e.g. Dark's GSL RO16 was a day before his SSL semis last season)? Too bad, just your luck.
2. Matchups - Having to prepare against 2-3 races whilst other players are preparing less? Too bad, just your luck.

I would prefer if they adopted the BW style - a player only ever has to prepare and play one match per day. Perhaps also do away with double elims format, but even keeping it is doable (Week 3 would only have one match from the group - Losers Finals).

(Not saying that Zest lost today for any of those reasons. But I feel that under a spread-out group format, the better player would stand a higher chance of advancing, due to the element of luck being reduced.)

I really find bo1 to be terrible for sc2


Stick to BO3. Just spread out the matches over 3 weeks, that's all.
gg no re thx
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 17:09:41
August 10 2016 16:59 GMT
#1055
On August 11 2016 01:52 romson87 wrote:
Zest getting eliminated by the very players he himself picked during group selections... I guess that's what you call ironic.


When a seed gets eliminated, it's highly likely that the player he picked defeated him along the way. The only possible way of that not happening is the seed winning against his pick, then losing the winner's final, then losing to the third player who beat his pick.

And SC2 being a rather even game between top and good players, I don't find it surprising nor ironic when a seed gets eliminated by his pick.

(If the pick 4-0ed the seed en route to advancing - then that's ironic and funny)
gg no re thx
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
August 10 2016 17:04 GMT
#1056
On August 11 2016 01:52 romson87 wrote:
Zest getting eliminated by the very players he himself picked during group selections... I guess that's what you call ironic.

Or what you call a lesson. Don't fuck with Ryung.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 10 2016 17:09 GMT
#1057
On August 11 2016 01:44 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 01:17 Silvana wrote:
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but has this happened to other great players before? By "this" I mean having such under performance repeated times in a day when you are so much better and the odds couldn't be more in your favor...

The only example that comes to my mind is Inno vs Duckdeok but Idk if Inno was so favorite in TvP back then...


I always felt that one-day group play somewhat sold the quality of the Starleagues short, in that it allows for more element of luck to come into play.

1. Timing - Having a super bad day? Down with a slight flu? Major tournament tomorrow (e.g. Dark's GSL RO16 was a day before his SSL semis last season)? Too bad, just your luck.
2. Matchups - Having to prepare against 2-3 races whilst other players are preparing less? Too bad, just your luck.

I would prefer if they adopted the BW style - a player only ever has to prepare and play one match per day. Perhaps also do away with double elims format, but even keeping it is doable (Week 3 would only have one match from the group - Losers Finals).

(Not saying that Zest lost today for any of those reasons. But I feel that under a spread-out group format, the better player would stand a higher chance of advancing, due to the element of luck being reduced.)

Good points! BW round robin system also has problems, but i prefer it as well
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 10 2016 17:23 GMT
#1058
Ryung made it to the bracket stage of GSL. That hasn't happened since BL-infestor.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 10 2016 17:33 GMT
#1059
Meanwhile, herO has managed to reach the RO8 with rather uninspiring and unconvincing plays, in both this group and the previous one.

Whoever wins GSL this season, I really hope it's on the back of some more solid performances.
gg no re thx
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37125 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 17:44:02
August 10 2016 17:43 GMT
#1060
Did Zest seriously lose in this group? Holy shit... What did I miss?! And woo hoo! MVP finally gets a player into the quarter-finals! Super gratz Ryung!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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