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Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks?
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Elazer unimpressed with himself that game
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On July 30 2016 11:44 CruelZeratul wrote:
Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks?
I don't think it's Zerg favored, but no one actually knows how to play on it, so that's up in the air right now.
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i would not be confident at all after winning that, i bet hes just waiting to lose cus frozen is next or something
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On July 30 2016 11:44 CruelZeratul wrote:
Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks?
Only if you don't know how to play it like uThermal. That map is almost always Terran favoured.
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On July 30 2016 11:44 CruelZeratul wrote:
Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks?
not at all. I agree with Ziggaurat's sentiment
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On July 30 2016 11:46 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:44 CruelZeratul wrote:
Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks? Only if you don't know how to play it like uThermal. That map is almost always Terran favoured.
tell me bonsai how do you correctly play on the map?
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On July 30 2016 11:45 Shellshock wrote:
Elazer unimpressed with himself that game
Uthermal was going full Korean with his multiprong and it showed that Elazer wasn't too good vs it. To us Uthermal was always really behind, but Elazer knew he could have thrown that game
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appreciating that GM insight, Nate
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On July 30 2016 11:08 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:00 Biscuittzz wrote:
One thing that really annoys with these smaller tournaments is how they, just like Lycan said to Neeb there, always say that hopefully players can make a deep run or go far.
With the format of these small 16-player tournaments, for the better players the first round is a non-contest usually, so the quarter-final will be their first game. Win that and they're into a Semi. Deep run completed with easy money in the bag.
Polt sleep-walked into the semis of DH Tours with really bad ( relative to his usual) play yet pocketed a cool 10K. Competition too easy or is there a need for a lower bracket? Polt had one of the easiest brackets tbh. Same with Violet. The biggest issue is the foreign scene isn't quite deep enough to make really really hyped 32 man brackets. However, I think it's slowly changing as more NA players get into the spotlight and a couple sea players seem to be getting better too so there are less easy slots like Iaguz often is or PilliPilli or Bails. The first has a horrible mentality self admitted and PilliPilli and Bails are still coming into their own, but have had their moments in online events
That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats?
Cost reasons most likely?
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i actually fooled myself into thinking he would 3 rax reaper only on frozen for the rest of this series
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On July 30 2016 11:52 Biscuittzz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:08 Parrek wrote:On July 30 2016 11:00 Biscuittzz wrote:
One thing that really annoys with these smaller tournaments is how they, just like Lycan said to Neeb there, always say that hopefully players can make a deep run or go far.
With the format of these small 16-player tournaments, for the better players the first round is a non-contest usually, so the quarter-final will be their first game. Win that and they're into a Semi. Deep run completed with easy money in the bag.
Polt sleep-walked into the semis of DH Tours with really bad ( relative to his usual) play yet pocketed a cool 10K. Competition too easy or is there a need for a lower bracket? Polt had one of the easiest brackets tbh. Same with Violet. The biggest issue is the foreign scene isn't quite deep enough to make really really hyped 32 man brackets. However, I think it's slowly changing as more NA players get into the spotlight and a couple sea players seem to be getting better too so there are less easy slots like Iaguz often is or PilliPilli or Bails. The first has a horrible mentality self admitted and PilliPilli and Bails are still coming into their own, but have had their moments in online events That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely?
And time. They want to show all the games which isn't possible with a 16 or 32 player double elim bracket.
On July 30 2016 11:54 Aocowns wrote:
i actually fooled myself into thinking he would 3 rax reaper only on frozen for the rest of this series
He 3raxes on Galactic Process more often then not.
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On July 30 2016 11:52 Biscuittzz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:08 Parrek wrote:On July 30 2016 11:00 Biscuittzz wrote:
One thing that really annoys with these smaller tournaments is how they, just like Lycan said to Neeb there, always say that hopefully players can make a deep run or go far.
With the format of these small 16-player tournaments, for the better players the first round is a non-contest usually, so the quarter-final will be their first game. Win that and they're into a Semi. Deep run completed with easy money in the bag.
Polt sleep-walked into the semis of DH Tours with really bad ( relative to his usual) play yet pocketed a cool 10K. Competition too easy or is there a need for a lower bracket? Polt had one of the easiest brackets tbh. Same with Violet. The biggest issue is the foreign scene isn't quite deep enough to make really really hyped 32 man brackets. However, I think it's slowly changing as more NA players get into the spotlight and a couple sea players seem to be getting better too so there are less easy slots like Iaguz often is or PilliPilli or Bails. The first has a horrible mentality self admitted and PilliPilli and Bails are still coming into their own, but have had their moments in online events That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely?
afaik most tournament organisers think all or nothing brackets give better entertainment than the double version
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On July 30 2016 11:52 Biscuittzz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:08 Parrek wrote:On July 30 2016 11:00 Biscuittzz wrote:
One thing that really annoys with these smaller tournaments is how they, just like Lycan said to Neeb there, always say that hopefully players can make a deep run or go far.
With the format of these small 16-player tournaments, for the better players the first round is a non-contest usually, so the quarter-final will be their first game. Win that and they're into a Semi. Deep run completed with easy money in the bag.
Polt sleep-walked into the semis of DH Tours with really bad ( relative to his usual) play yet pocketed a cool 10K. Competition too easy or is there a need for a lower bracket? Polt had one of the easiest brackets tbh. Same with Violet. The biggest issue is the foreign scene isn't quite deep enough to make really really hyped 32 man brackets. However, I think it's slowly changing as more NA players get into the spotlight and a couple sea players seem to be getting better too so there are less easy slots like Iaguz often is or PilliPilli or Bails. The first has a horrible mentality self admitted and PilliPilli and Bails are still coming into their own, but have had their moments in online events That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely?
I'd say time is a bigger reason. We already do three days 12 hours long. We couldn't do even more games
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On July 30 2016 11:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:52 Biscuittzz wrote:On July 30 2016 11:08 Parrek wrote:On July 30 2016 11:00 Biscuittzz wrote:
One thing that really annoys with these smaller tournaments is how they, just like Lycan said to Neeb there, always say that hopefully players can make a deep run or go far.
With the format of these small 16-player tournaments, for the better players the first round is a non-contest usually, so the quarter-final will be their first game. Win that and they're into a Semi. Deep run completed with easy money in the bag.
Polt sleep-walked into the semis of DH Tours with really bad ( relative to his usual) play yet pocketed a cool 10K. Competition too easy or is there a need for a lower bracket? Polt had one of the easiest brackets tbh. Same with Violet. The biggest issue is the foreign scene isn't quite deep enough to make really really hyped 32 man brackets. However, I think it's slowly changing as more NA players get into the spotlight and a couple sea players seem to be getting better too so there are less easy slots like Iaguz often is or PilliPilli or Bails. The first has a horrible mentality self admitted and PilliPilli and Bails are still coming into their own, but have had their moments in online events That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely? And time. They want to show all the games which isn't possible with a 16 or 32 player double elim bracket. Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:54 Aocowns wrote:
i actually fooled myself into thinking he would 3 rax reaper only on frozen for the rest of this series He 3raxes on Galactic Process more often then not.
dont we say that about almost all the maps
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On July 30 2016 11:47 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:46 geokilla wrote:On July 30 2016 11:44 CruelZeratul wrote:
Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks? Only if you don't know how to play it like uThermal. That map is almost always Terran favoured. tell me bonsai how do you correctly play on the map?
As a Terran player, I'd play aggressively and go one base all in. The pathing is short so pushes are fairly strong. Marine tank pushes should do fairly well. Definitely wouldn't aim to play a long game.
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Holy hell... This map is so good for reapers.
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On July 30 2016 11:55 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 11:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On July 30 2016 11:52 Biscuittzz wrote:On July 30 2016 11:08 Parrek wrote:On July 30 2016 11:00 Biscuittzz wrote:
One thing that really annoys with these smaller tournaments is how they, just like Lycan said to Neeb there, always say that hopefully players can make a deep run or go far.
With the format of these small 16-player tournaments, for the better players the first round is a non-contest usually, so the quarter-final will be their first game. Win that and they're into a Semi. Deep run completed with easy money in the bag.
Polt sleep-walked into the semis of DH Tours with really bad ( relative to his usual) play yet pocketed a cool 10K. Competition too easy or is there a need for a lower bracket? Polt had one of the easiest brackets tbh. Same with Violet. The biggest issue is the foreign scene isn't quite deep enough to make really really hyped 32 man brackets. However, I think it's slowly changing as more NA players get into the spotlight and a couple sea players seem to be getting better too so there are less easy slots like Iaguz often is or PilliPilli or Bails. The first has a horrible mentality self admitted and PilliPilli and Bails are still coming into their own, but have had their moments in online events That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely? And time. They want to show all the games which isn't possible with a 16 or 32 player double elim bracket. On July 30 2016 11:54 Aocowns wrote:
i actually fooled myself into thinking he would 3 rax reaper only on frozen for the rest of this series He 3raxes on Galactic Process more often then not. dont we say that about almost all the maps
I've only seen him do that unproxied on Frozen Temple and Galactic, and more rarely proxied on Apotheosis. So... half the map pool.
Oh and I also saw him proxy 3rax reaper on Flame Juggler, the worst 3rax reaper map ever, and follow it up with 3 rax marauder which he couldn't afford. I don't think he would do that again.
On July 30 2016 11:57 blade55555 wrote:
Holy hell... This map is so good for reapers.
It was better before.
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