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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15880 Posts
June 23 2016 09:46 GMT
#741
On June 23 2016 18:44 lelfreg wrote:
I really wonder why even try one base build when protoss can defend without units, and then counterattack with a fuckton of units.

he wrecked super with this build in their first game
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
June 23 2016 09:46 GMT
#742
On June 23 2016 18:45 Ej_ wrote:
ITT: people excusing Maru for getting absolutely mega rekt


I'm waiting for wrist and shoulder excuses
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28453 Posts
June 23 2016 09:46 GMT
#743
On June 23 2016 18:45 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:44 Charoisaur wrote:
I think this format doesn't fit maru


it's not PL where you can essentially practice for one map for a week

He 3-0'd Reality literally yesterday
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
June 23 2016 09:47 GMT
#744
On June 23 2016 18:46 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:44 lelfreg wrote:
I really wonder why even try one base build when protoss can defend without units, and then counterattack with a fuckton of units.

he wrecked super with this build in their first game

And then he learned the hard way that Super is nowhere near Zest's level in PvT.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15880 Posts
June 23 2016 09:47 GMT
#745
On June 23 2016 18:46 IMPrime wrote:
remember when david kim said that terran is supposed to be the aggressive race

then protoss has better aggressive strategies than terran while also having better defenses?

and on top of that being always ahead in economy because of OP chronoboost
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SpaceJam
Profile Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
June 23 2016 09:47 GMT
#746
On June 23 2016 18:45 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:44 lelfreg wrote:
I really wonder why even try one base build when protoss can defend without units, and then counterattack with a fuckton of units.

Well, he lost his natural


He didn't fully lose his natural until after critical damage had finally been dealt to him. The sad thing is, he was consistently holding Zest to one base himself, but Protoss can still push through tanks, medivacs, bunkers, etc. and clinch the win.
spirit desire~
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
June 23 2016 09:47 GMT
#747
On June 23 2016 18:46 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:45 Noonius wrote:
On June 23 2016 18:44 Charoisaur wrote:
I think this format doesn't fit maru


it's not PL where you can essentially practice for one map for a week

He 3-0'd Reality literally yesterday


yeah, but it was a tvt
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 23 2016 09:47 GMT
#748
On June 23 2016 18:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:46 IMPrime wrote:
remember when david kim said that terran is supposed to be the aggressive race

then protoss has better aggressive strategies than terran while also having better defenses?

and on top of that being always ahead in economy because of OP chronoboost

ye and their units are also big and shiny and shoot lasers

wtf david kim
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
June 23 2016 09:47 GMT
#749
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
June 23 2016 09:47 GMT
#750
On June 23 2016 18:46 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:45 Noonius wrote:
On June 23 2016 18:44 Charoisaur wrote:
I think this format doesn't fit maru


it's not PL where you can essentially practice for one map for a week

He 3-0'd Reality literally yesterday

So he practiced one week per map, the math checks out!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
RichardNPL
Profile Joined November 2015
185 Posts
June 23 2016 09:48 GMT
#751
terran tears
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 23 2016 09:48 GMT
#752
On June 23 2016 18:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 23 2016 18:46 IMPrime wrote:
remember when david kim said that terran is supposed to be the aggressive race

then protoss has better aggressive strategies than terran while also having better defenses?

and on top of that being always ahead in economy because of OP chronoboost

ye and their units are also big and shiny and shoot lasers

wtf david kim


And some can teleport. I call bullshit.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24579 Posts
June 23 2016 09:48 GMT
#753
is there like a single game where Zest doesn't go some combination of blink and dts?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
June 23 2016 09:49 GMT
#754
On June 23 2016 18:47 SpaceJam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:45 Durnuu wrote:
On June 23 2016 18:44 lelfreg wrote:
I really wonder why even try one base build when protoss can defend without units, and then counterattack with a fuckton of units.

Well, he lost his natural


He didn't fully lose his natural until after critical damage had finally been dealt to him. The sad thing is, he was consistently holding Zest to one base himself, but Protoss can still push through tanks, medivacs, bunkers, etc. and clinch the win.

He held Zest on 1-base mining with 1 liberator and 1 marine. Zest held Maru on 1-base mining with 10 stalkers that attacked into 4 marines and an unfinished bunker.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lelfreg
Profile Joined December 2014
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 09:49:25
June 23 2016 09:49 GMT
#755
Can't wait for separate MMR and defend everything early game with overcharge. :D
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
June 23 2016 09:49 GMT
#756
On June 23 2016 18:44 Charoisaur wrote:
I think this format doesn't fit maru


I'm a huge Maru fan and want to find some kind of excuse for him performing like this, but honestly, in some ways I think this format fits Maru better than long-prep head-to-heads. I think this *should* be his ideal format, because he's often been the player who would go in and win off-the-cuff in really impressive ways.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
June 23 2016 09:49 GMT
#757
On June 23 2016 18:48 Heartland wrote:
is there like a single game where Zest doesn't go some combination of blink and dts?

What about that one game he lost to taeja because he made his new base on the low ground?
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 09:50:29
June 23 2016 09:50 GMT
#758
On June 23 2016 18:48 Heartland wrote:
is there like a single game where Zest doesn't go some combination of blink and dts?


Why change when you're far and away the best player in the world at a certain matchup?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15880 Posts
June 23 2016 09:50 GMT
#759
On June 23 2016 18:48 Heartland wrote:
is there like a single game where Zest doesn't go some combination of blink and dts?

sometimes he makes oracles
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 23 2016 09:50 GMT
#760
On June 23 2016 18:50 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 18:48 Heartland wrote:
is there like a single game where Zest doesn't go some combination of blink and dts?


Why change when you're far and away the best player in the world at a certain matchup?

because 1 day TRUE will come and clown you
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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