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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 14:19:04
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#781
On May 14 2016 23:05 Rollora wrote:
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On May 14 2016 23:02 Ej_ wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:02 Rollora wrote:
guys just tuned in. what happened, why is tie not fair in this game?

Strange won the game, then the in-game mechanic for deciding draws kicked in and gave Polt a tie.

how did he win then?

He didn't but was about to
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Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#782
On May 14 2016 23:05 BretZ wrote:
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On May 14 2016 23:01 Mangooza wrote:
The correct decision. Just remove/disable it for the future.


I guess that's all I can ask for. But damn if I'm not disappointed to see such a huge upset.

Also I think half of it was how drawn in I was by the sheer tension of how close he was to winning, just to be immediately yanked out of immersion with a giant TIED screen and tasteless' jaw on the floor.


the overlay interface is to blame here. imagine if we had the timer
lamehater
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden100 Posts
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#783
Strange was aware of the in-game timer and still FAILED to eliminate Polt. A replay of the game is the proper decision, whether it's "fair" or not.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44376 Posts
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#784
On May 14 2016 23:03 Yiome wrote:
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On May 14 2016 23:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:00 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
On May 14 2016 22:51 travis wrote:
so people are mad because...?

sounds like the game worked how the game is programmed to work

because this wasnt actually a draw

Or it wouldn't have been if Strange had the balls to go kill him with the units he has. But if he was aware of the timer, that means he accepted the game would end in a tie.

the question is: will Polt demonstrate enough balls to forfeit this game, because he lost it fair and square.


You're wrong; get over it.

It's one thing about rule another thing about sportsmanship
This is not good sportsmanship imo


Welcome to any sort of competition, where you win games based on winning and not based on being a nice guy? It's not even "good sportsmanship" to just stupidly give someone a free win when a tie is established.

Anyways, game six time
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#785
Polt scouting, super on point.
kiss kiss fall in love
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#786
I don't understand why people are freaking out, people in plat league know how to use the draw system to get a draw in a game the can't win, pro players are 100% aware of it, it's part of the game; end of the story.

The only mistake is from the production for not letting the viewers know about the timer and shocking them with an abrupt ending.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#787
On May 14 2016 23:05 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:02 Ej_ wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:02 Rollora wrote:
guys just tuned in. what happened, why is tie not fair in this game?

Strange won the game, then the in-game mechanic for deciding draws kicked in and gave Polt a tie.

how did he win then?

he was about to kill all of the polts army and finish off his buildings, but unit kills dont reset the draw timer, draw screen showed up as Strange was about to finish
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#788
Worst build 2016, the tilt is real.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ossavi09
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany441 Posts
May 14 2016 14:06 GMT
#789
everyone suspected draws to be a mechanic to give freewins to terran players - now it is 100% confirmed
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
May 14 2016 14:07 GMT
#790
On May 14 2016 22:58 Incognoto wrote:
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On May 14 2016 22:56 NarutO wrote:
On May 14 2016 22:55 Incognoto wrote:
I don't understand why people are mad.

There are win conditions for Starcraft. Kill all buildings.

There are draw conditions for Starcraft. We had draw conditions.

Polt tried to bring the game to draw conditions, rather than resigning. Why are people mad? Nerchio, Bunny, etc. you're all wrong, sorry.

Strange had to know the draw conditions and know that a timer was on his ass. He was indecisive, thus a draw took place. All there is to it!


The win conditions are

Destroy all buildings

That is the only condition. He would have managed to do so. The timer for anti-stalement is invented to prevent ladder abuse. so that should be Strange's win.

They're both a game of Starcraft. I believe that the stalemate conditions are the same for any game of Starcraft, whether custom or on ladder.


Well I'd say not actually. Tournament games are different than ladder games. Example: Proleague.
You have a lot of additional ruling which can decide the outcome of the game. Forgot to set your hotkeys? Didin't wrote "ppp" before pausing ? You can get DQ which does not happen during oridinary ladder games.
So I'd say Tournamet games =/= Ladder games
sOs TY PartinG
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
May 14 2016 14:07 GMT
#791
On May 14 2016 22:59 NarutO wrote:
It will be regamed 2-2.

I asked why and was told not to argue. Worst decision ever.

if I were Strange (no pun intended) I would've just forfeited game 6 myself, because that's the only way to make a statement. It doesn't even matter if he wins now, it's not about it anymore, it's about a particular game and sportsmanship.
Michael Probu
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 14:08:03
May 14 2016 14:07 GMT
#792
The decision is correct for this situation. But the timer is flawed, since it did not end a stalement situation and instead took away a win from a player that would've won in 10 seconds.

Also the timer is not needed in custom games and should never influence a tournament again. Tournaments have admins, the timer is for ladder.

Well mistakes were made, I'm sure Blizz will fix it.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Nine Gates
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland198 Posts
May 14 2016 14:07 GMT
#793
Being angry that Strange lost "just because of a game mechanic" is like being angry that a player with a way worse army won a base race "just because of the game mechanic that causes you to lose if all your buildings die".

Players call GG way before the loss condition because they don't want to waste time playing a lost game. Similarly, the players and the referees can agree to end the game as a tie before the stalemate in order to not waste time.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 14 2016 14:07 GMT
#794
I think that was enough damage
Liquipedia"Expert"
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 14 2016 14:07 GMT
#795
all the pro players on twitter are calling it a disgrace wow the pitchfork are raised
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44376 Posts
May 14 2016 14:08 GMT
#796
On May 14 2016 23:06 ossavi09 wrote:
everyone suspected draws to be a mechanic to give freewins to terran players - now it is 100% confirmed


Win =/= Draw.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 14 2016 14:08 GMT
#797
Yeah, I think that attack was worth it for Strange.
kiss kiss fall in love
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
May 14 2016 14:08 GMT
#798
On May 14 2016 23:05 Makro wrote:
dreamhack admins always have to face the worst situation possible

i remember dreamhack winter 2014 with ldlc vs fnatic

And the lucifron coin toss
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44376 Posts
May 14 2016 14:08 GMT
#799
Strange probably gonna win this game anyway
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ossavi09
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany441 Posts
May 14 2016 14:08 GMT
#800
On May 14 2016 23:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:06 ossavi09 wrote:
everyone suspected draws to be a mechanic to give freewins to terran players - now it is 100% confirmed


Win =/= Draw.


well polt is korean, which means draws = next game is win =D
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