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On May 16 2016 20:20 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:19 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8 i think so basically 3+3 marines do 1 damage per shot (3+3 marines have 9 attack, right?) :/ not sure about marauders, but 2 attacks mean that there is a 16 reduction in attack as well so basically bio does nothing to ultralisks yes, marines don't do much, that's been established since the first day of beta what else is new?
well what is new is that Terran actually has a significant advantage over Zerg in KR.
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Nerchio confirmed foreign god.
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On May 16 2016 20:20 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:19 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8 i think so basically 3+3 marines do 1 damage per shot (3+3 marines have 9 attack, right?) :/ not sure about marauders, but 2 attacks mean that there is a 16 reduction in attack as well so basically bio does nothing to ultralisks yes, marines don't do much, that's been established since the first day of beta what else is new?
actually i think that in hots and before, ultras has less than 8 armor
even if they had 7 armor instead (which is only -1), suddenly marine dps vs ultras is doubled. that's hardly something you can neglect
e: i'm not whining >_< just trying to grasp some numbers that's all. literally the only unit stats i know are cost and the attack marines have. that's IT
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On May 16 2016 20:21 Infiiiniity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:18 Thezzy wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8. So Marine shots do nothing and Marauders do only a little more since they attack twice now (why was that changed?). Mass Liberator I guess but I'm not fond of that unit. I think that to this day nobody knows why marauders got nerfed.
its because protoss didn't win enough tournaments in HotS....................
yeah i actually dont know why
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On May 16 2016 20:21 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:20 Alchemik wrote:On May 16 2016 20:19 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8 i think so basically 3+3 marines do 1 damage per shot (3+3 marines have 9 attack, right?) :/ not sure about marauders, but 2 attacks mean that there is a 16 reduction in attack as well so basically bio does nothing to ultralisks yes, marines don't do much, that's been established since the first day of beta what else is new? well what is new is that Terran actually has a significant advantage over Zerg in KR.
thought so, what do they do? (the Terrans, that is)
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On May 16 2016 20:21 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:20 Alchemik wrote:On May 16 2016 20:19 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8 i think so basically 3+3 marines do 1 damage per shot (3+3 marines have 9 attack, right?) :/ not sure about marauders, but 2 attacks mean that there is a 16 reduction in attack as well so basically bio does nothing to ultralisks yes, marines don't do much, that's been established since the first day of beta what else is new? actually i think that in hots and before, ultras has less than 8 armor even if they had 7 armor instead (which is only -1), suddenly marine dps vs ultras is doubled. that's hardly something you can neglect e: i'm not whining >_< just trying to grasp some numbers that's all. literally the only unit stats i know are cost and the attack marines have. that's IT
Before a fully upgraded Ultralisk had 6 armor, same as fully upgraded Battlecruiser.
Which meant Marine shots did 3 damage. Marauders had a single attack which was 26 damage vs Armored, so 20 vs an Ultralisk.
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On May 16 2016 20:23 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:21 Ej_ wrote:On May 16 2016 20:20 Alchemik wrote:On May 16 2016 20:19 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8 i think so basically 3+3 marines do 1 damage per shot (3+3 marines have 9 attack, right?) :/ not sure about marauders, but 2 attacks mean that there is a 16 reduction in attack as well so basically bio does nothing to ultralisks yes, marines don't do much, that's been established since the first day of beta what else is new? well what is new is that Terran actually has a significant advantage over Zerg in KR. thought so, what do they do?
have TY and Maru as the terrans
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On May 16 2016 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:21 Infiiiniity wrote:On May 16 2016 20:18 Thezzy wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8. So Marine shots do nothing and Marauders do only a little more since they attack twice now (why was that changed?). Mass Liberator I guess but I'm not fond of that unit. I think that to this day nobody knows why marauders got nerfed. its because protoss didn't win enough tournaments in HotS.................... yeah i actually dont know why
well, david kim took some days off because he was ill so dustin was in charge for a relative short period of time, you have your reason
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Australia18228 Posts
On May 16 2016 20:21 Infiiiniity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:18 Thezzy wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8. So Marine shots do nothing and Marauders do only a little more since they attack twice now (why was that changed?). Mass Liberator I guess but I'm not fond of that unit. I think that to this day nobody knows why marauders got nerfed.
Wasn't it so they could nerf Colossus at the same time
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Snute is probably salty as fuck now considering he always transitioned to broodlords instead of ultras vs polt at katowice.
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On May 16 2016 20:23 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:21 Ej_ wrote:On May 16 2016 20:20 Alchemik wrote:On May 16 2016 20:19 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8 i think so basically 3+3 marines do 1 damage per shot (3+3 marines have 9 attack, right?) :/ not sure about marauders, but 2 attacks mean that there is a 16 reduction in attack as well so basically bio does nothing to ultralisks yes, marines don't do much, that's been established since the first day of beta what else is new? well what is new is that Terran actually has a significant advantage over Zerg in KR. thought so, what do they do?
just bio/tank macro into liberators, Zerg can either choose to delay tech and be behind later on or tech and be behind early on
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Not surprising since he lost to firecake and almost lost to elazer
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Canada8159 Posts
Why is this on on a Monday :/
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On May 16 2016 20:23 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:21 Infiiiniity wrote:On May 16 2016 20:18 Thezzy wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8. So Marine shots do nothing and Marauders do only a little more since they attack twice now (why was that changed?). Mass Liberator I guess but I'm not fond of that unit. I think that to this day nobody knows why marauders got nerfed. its because protoss didn't win enough tournaments in HotS.................... yeah i actually dont know why well, david kim took some days off because he was ill so dustin was in charge for a relative short period of time, you have your reason
if he had had a few days more the ability to morph into destructible rocks would have been added to marauders
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Canada2764 Posts
On May 16 2016 20:23 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:23 Alchemik wrote:On May 16 2016 20:21 Ej_ wrote:On May 16 2016 20:20 Alchemik wrote:On May 16 2016 20:19 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8 i think so basically 3+3 marines do 1 damage per shot (3+3 marines have 9 attack, right?) :/ not sure about marauders, but 2 attacks mean that there is a 16 reduction in attack as well so basically bio does nothing to ultralisks yes, marines don't do much, that's been established since the first day of beta what else is new? well what is new is that Terran actually has a significant advantage over Zerg in KR. thought so, what do they do? have TY and Maru as the terrans
In other words, terrans in korea have so much multi-tasking that they generally just out-multitask the zerg, which is kind of what TvZ seems to be right now from what I've seen. Polt, on the other hand, got out-multitasked hard as fuck in this series. Not saying too much 
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On May 16 2016 20:24 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:21 Infiiiniity wrote:On May 16 2016 20:18 Thezzy wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8. So Marine shots do nothing and Marauders do only a little more since they attack twice now (why was that changed?). Mass Liberator I guess but I'm not fond of that unit. I think that to this day nobody knows why marauders got nerfed. Wasn't it so they could nerf Colossus at the same time
I think Protoss has more than ok replacements for colossi though.
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On May 16 2016 20:23 Thezzy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:21 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:20 Alchemik wrote:On May 16 2016 20:19 Incognoto wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 16 2016 20:17 Incognoto wrote:
how much armor do 3 amor + plating ultralisks have? 8 i think so basically 3+3 marines do 1 damage per shot (3+3 marines have 9 attack, right?) :/ not sure about marauders, but 2 attacks mean that there is a 16 reduction in attack as well so basically bio does nothing to ultralisks yes, marines don't do much, that's been established since the first day of beta what else is new? actually i think that in hots and before, ultras has less than 8 armor even if they had 7 armor instead (which is only -1), suddenly marine dps vs ultras is doubled. that's hardly something you can neglect e: i'm not whining >_< just trying to grasp some numbers that's all. literally the only unit stats i know are cost and the attack marines have. that's IT Before a fully upgraded Ultralisk had 6 armor, same as fully upgraded Battlecruiser. Which meant Marine shots did 3 damage. Marauders had a single attack which was 26 damage vs Armored, so 20 vs an Ultralisk.
so marauders used to do 10x the amount of damage to ultralisks before lotv. wow
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On May 16 2016 20:18 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2016 20:16 Poopi wrote:On May 16 2016 20:13 Soularion wrote:On May 16 2016 20:12 Incognoto wrote:
yeah terran just needs a very specialized answer to ultralisks, which polt does not bring to the table there's a couple of answers there - push properly - transition harder - macro properly before so you can have liberators Always funny that 4 years later teamliquid still act like everything is fine  Nothing has changed it seems Pls stop balance whining
It's not balance whine it's design whining
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now MaSa must win so that the Father of Ultralisks can destroy him afterwards
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Gratz to Artur but to be fair; Judging from Polts inconsistent level I think he doesn't always practice as much he should to win these events because of studies I'd imagine. I expect him to be a lot better at the real important ones at the end of the year and even be a handful for the top Koreans like last year.
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