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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
April 02 2016 11:11 GMT
#241
On April 02 2016 20:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is anyone else feeling a Phoenix nerf? They're just so good vs Zerg early game

lol, cuz soO doesn't have any fuking spores
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
April 02 2016 11:11 GMT
#242
On April 02 2016 20:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is anyone else feeling a Phoenix nerf? They're just so good vs Zerg early game


nahh Phoenix are fine. Zergs just need to learn to play better.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 02 2016 11:12 GMT
#243
On April 02 2016 20:11 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2016 20:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is anyone else feeling a Phoenix nerf? They're just so good vs Zerg early game


nah, they're really the most skill-based unit Protoss has, maybe even in the entire game. They're shit for a low level player but if you're good you can get so much out of them. And they never mean an instant win.

Nah, as a low level player phoenix are also good in the low levels cause as bad as they are at controlling them, you're also bad at defending them.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
April 02 2016 11:13 GMT
#244
On April 02 2016 20:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2016 20:11 Heartland wrote:
On April 02 2016 20:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is anyone else feeling a Phoenix nerf? They're just so good vs Zerg early game


nah, they're really the most skill-based unit Protoss has, maybe even in the entire game. They're shit for a low level player but if you're good you can get so much out of them. And they never mean an instant win.

Nah, as a low level player phoenix are also good in the low levels cause as bad as they are at controlling them, you're also bad at defending them.


the apm required to do anything with them messes you up, though. A low level Zerg player just has to build Spores but the protoss player has to micro very carefully to pick off stray queens, OLs and Drones and a lower level player will just start floating tons of minerals and gas and get behind when controlling phoenix
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
April 02 2016 11:14 GMT
#245
Hmm that Prism didnt collect those adepts in time, is that a bug
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
April 02 2016 11:14 GMT
#246
zest is not getting an Oracle for revelation on the lurkers?
PPN
Profile Joined August 2011
France248 Posts
April 02 2016 11:14 GMT
#247
On April 02 2016 19:56 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2016 19:45 Schelim wrote:
On April 02 2016 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On April 02 2016 19:39 Schelim wrote:
On April 02 2016 19:36 Ej_ wrote:
unbelievably WELL, Brendan

americans don't understand this difference

The only English caster who gets this right is Kaelaris so I'm not sure being American has anything to do with it.

i have been told by linguistics professors that using "good" instead of "well" is an American English phenomenon, but of course it's possible that listening to a lot of American English can have an influence on British/other speakers, and it is also possible that said linguistics professors were simply wrong.


Never heard of this issue, but after a little googling it seems both are correct. Languages changes with time, after all. I'm not a grammar nazi, but apparently it has something to do with "linking verbs" and "predicate adjective". So you can say "I'm good" instead of "I'm well", or "he's doing good", because good describes the verb "doing", without it meaning he's doing a good deed. Idk. I had an american drumteacher a few years back, and when he asked "How are you?" and I said "Well", he waited for like 20 seconds, because he thought I was just starting a sentence with "well....". :p


That's the difference between an adverb and an adjective. I've noticed that American English tend to have an improper use of adjectives as if they were adverbs. Well is both. Good is only supposed to be an adjective but improper use made its current usage as adverb.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 02 2016 11:14 GMT
#248
On April 02 2016 20:13 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2016 20:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On April 02 2016 20:11 Heartland wrote:
On April 02 2016 20:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is anyone else feeling a Phoenix nerf? They're just so good vs Zerg early game


nah, they're really the most skill-based unit Protoss has, maybe even in the entire game. They're shit for a low level player but if you're good you can get so much out of them. And they never mean an instant win.

Nah, as a low level player phoenix are also good in the low levels cause as bad as they are at controlling them, you're also bad at defending them.


the apm required to do anything with them messes you up, though. A low level Zerg player just has to build Spores but the protoss player has to micro very carefully to pick off stray queens, OLs and Drones and a lower level player will just start floating tons of minerals and gas and get behind when controlling phoenix

Okay well I guess I'm just complete crap for losing to them all the time then...
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
April 02 2016 11:14 GMT
#249
soO could have sniped the second obs too
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
April 02 2016 11:15 GMT
#250
EZ XD
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 02 2016 11:15 GMT
#251
literally no hesitation from zest haha
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
April 02 2016 11:15 GMT
#252
wtf is zest
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
April 02 2016 11:15 GMT
#253
now he lost all the obs
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
April 02 2016 11:16 GMT
#254
SoO should retire, hes just not that good ...GG
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 02 2016 11:16 GMT
#255
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (5)
 
28%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
 
28%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
11%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
6%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
 
28%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
April 02 2016 11:16 GMT
#256
dem immortals
I Protoss winner, could it be?
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
April 02 2016 11:16 GMT
#257
Man, I'm finding this frustrating to watch. Zest is making Protoss look OP. I don't know why this is frustrating rather than exciting for me tonight, though. Haha.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 02 2016 11:16 GMT
#258
Phoenix into immortal is just so obnoxious. Zerg has no real way to deal with it.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 02 2016 11:16 GMT
#259
On April 02 2016 20:06 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2016 20:05 shabby wrote:
On April 02 2016 20:03 Schelim wrote:
On April 02 2016 19:56 shabby wrote:
On April 02 2016 19:45 Schelim wrote:
On April 02 2016 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On April 02 2016 19:39 Schelim wrote:
On April 02 2016 19:36 Ej_ wrote:
unbelievably WELL, Brendan

americans don't understand this difference

The only English caster who gets this right is Kaelaris so I'm not sure being American has anything to do with it.

i have been told by linguistics professors that using "good" instead of "well" is an American English phenomenon, but of course it's possible that listening to a lot of American English can have an influence on British/other speakers, and it is also possible that said linguistics professors were simply wrong.


Never heard of this issue, but after a little googling it seems both are correct. Languages changes with time, after all. I'm not a grammar nazi, but apparently it has something to do with "linking verbs" and "predicate adjective". So you can say "I'm good" instead of "I'm well", or "he's doing good", because good describes the verb "doing", without it meaning he's doing a good deed. Idk. I had an american drumteacher a few years back, and when he asked "How are you?" and I said "Well", he waited for like 20 seconds, because he thought I was just starting a sentence with "well....". :p

"correct" is not really a useful categorization. as you say, language changes, and when it comes to colloquial language use, nobody gives a flying fuck what a dictionary would have to say about their utterances. in my opinion, something becomes a valid use of language as soon as more than one speaker uses it, or potentially even if only one speaker uses it but other competent speakers of the language the speaker is using understand what they're trying to express.


I agree, was just pointing out that the existing grammar rules do no rule out the use of good. Urban dictionary is probably the most updated dictionary out there, because it reflects what people actually say and what they mean by it.


to be fair most of urban dictionary is just made up it seems

what if i told you all of language is made up
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 02 2016 11:17 GMT
#260
On April 02 2016 20:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2016 20:11 Heartland wrote:
On April 02 2016 20:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is anyone else feeling a Phoenix nerf? They're just so good vs Zerg early game


nah, they're really the most skill-based unit Protoss has, maybe even in the entire game. They're shit for a low level player but if you're good you can get so much out of them. And they never mean an instant win.

Nah, as a low level player phoenix are also good in the low levels cause as bad as they are at controlling them, you're also bad at defending them.

make a spore if scout SG/dont scout anything then hydra den and go 3base hydra all-in, kills every protoss without prisitine phoenix control
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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