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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:30 ArtyK wrote: Dragon in french is dragon though :p Drogo doesn't mean anything, but if the casters said so maybe it's what he's going for i guess Ptit is basically petit which is like saying lil' instead of little he thinks he looks like a little drogo which is true | ||
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DinosaurPoop
687 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:42 WrathSCII wrote: After thinking about it, the entire viewership is completely irrelevant to the WCS system. Whatever happens, the viewer count will always range about the same value no matter what. People do not tune in for a certain player or whatever, they tune in for the whole tournament or just Ro4 or the finals. Yeah recently in 2015-16 the core viewerbase has been practically unshaken, when I saw an IEM last year don't remember which, I was like "Holy moly 20k for the open bracket? imagine the finals!" Then it turns out the finals only have like 10-15k more. The dedicated viewerbase was just actually watching from start to finish lol. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:44 Elentos wrote: Hydra's aligulac rating is still inflated as heck from him reking worse players in HotS. He was like top 10 on aligulac before he lost to Bly which is completely absurd considering how Hydra has been playing in LotV (and yes viOlet's rating was really low). Yeah Hydra's rating is inflated mostly because he steamrolled a ton of online tournaments. It's a little ridiculous when you look at it. But I'm not sure how you can say viOLet's was really low considering that with the exception of one slump period in early 2014, he has consistently been between 1800 and 2000 over the last 3 years. Moreover if you look at his recent results (2015 and 2016 in this link) you'll simply see that he hasn't been playing a lot and he also hasn't been winning as much as you might think. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:51 207aicila wrote: Yeah Hydra's rating is inflated mostly because he steamrolled a ton of online tournaments. It's a little ridiculous when you look at it. But I'm not sure how you can say viOLet's was really low considering that with the exception of one slump period in early 2014, he has consistently been between 1800 and 2000 over the last 3 years. Moreover if you look at his recent results (2015 and 2016 in this link) you'll simply see that he hasn't been playing a lot and he also hasn't been winning as much as you might think. Well, I didn't say viOlet's rating being low isn't justified, I just meant it's really low compared to some other players at DH so aligulac wouldn't predict him to win On a side note, I'm curious about Drogo's Blizzcon chances now... | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:16 sparklyresidue wrote: Is Drogo named after Khal Drogo from Game of Thrones? Wasn't expecting these results ! Were the games good? Nope, Drogo is a strange way of spelling "dragon" and Ptit means "little". Source being some interview he did some time ago. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:51 Vedeynevin wrote: Lol, apparently I wasn't clear enough. There were times he pulled his entire army back for ONE ZEALOT THAT WAS ATTACKING A BUILDING HATCH AND DIDN'T COME FROM A WARP PRISM. Obviously you have to split off more then a few units to deal with late game prisms warping in 12 zealots. But even then you don't need to pull the whole army over there. Here lemme try....man do you even play sc2, you realize 2 roaches will kill 1 zealot right? They even added hotkeys in lotv that make it easier to split off units. Proof or didn't happen =D | ||
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PsychoKillerSC2
6 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:13 Mozdk wrote: Replays: No have last game of final.. on map risk of seras? | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
 And i'have to say that's the lack of koreans had a great impact for me. Unless when a french player was involved i wasn't really interested... | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8324 Posts
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The_Masked_Shrimp
425 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On January 24 2016 23:48 TheDougler wrote: What was vierership numbers like? I tried to wake up in time for it but body said no... 45k ish I think total? 30k on mainstream. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On January 24 2016 23:48 TheDougler wrote: What was vierership numbers like? I tried to wake up in time for it but body said no... With a real time and not this farce of time, the final could have outdone Dreamhack LotV winter easy. I am not the Thorin fan, but he is right with one thing, when he talked about NA CS and EU CS: EU citizens stay late up to watch content out of NA, NA cannot (work, school, sleep) get up super early to watch EU content. Even tho I hate the new weekend events in the WCS Circuit, I expect a very strong viewernumber at Dreamhack Austin. But on the same side, CS:GO final started at 13.00 CET (7 EST, 4 PST) with 200k viewers. I dont think this tournament does say alot about the circuit. In the end, WCS Spring finals at Kato will do this: A real (side-)stage, maybe a real time for the final (wasnt it last year 16.00 CET? Sunday?) and alot of games directly next to SC II: CS:GO 250k event and IEM World finals of LoL. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On January 25 2016 00:20 showstealer1829 wrote: I guess the time makes a difference but 30k for an all foreign final sounds pathetic It was around 45k as I said, not 30k. 30k was just the main stream. | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
On January 25 2016 00:20 showstealer1829 wrote: I guess the time makes a difference but 30k for an all foreign final sounds pathetic Thats about what any SC2 event is pulling these days if not less. I can't think of the last time I've seen any numbers as high/higher. Do you think it would have been 50-75k if it were two Koreans? Or one Korean and a Foreigner? I don't think it would have been much different either way. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On January 25 2016 00:28 FLuE wrote: Thats about what any SC2 event is pulling these days if not less. I can't think of the last time I've seen any numbers as high/higher. Do you think it would have been 50-75k if it were two Koreans? Or one Korean and a Foreigner? I don't think it would have been much different either way. No but if WCS 2016 was all about this magic rainbow of getting casual viewers I'd expect to see an uptick in viewership for an all foreign final, not a group of numbers that's down 20% on HSC | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
On January 25 2016 00:33 showstealer1829 wrote: No but if WCS 2016 was all about this magic rainbow of getting casual viewers I'd expect to see an uptick in viewership for an all foreign final, not a group of numbers that's down 20% on HSC Where did the WCS system claim to be a magic system for increasing casual viewership? I don't see the correlation between the system and casuals, casuals wouldn't know/care if it was all foreigner or all Korean, or a mix at this point in the systems existence. The hope appears to be to prop up the scene overall around the world, so that the long term effect is to stabilize the viewership and then slowly increase interest in the game again. The first step to doing that is to try and create a more global following for a variety of players. Then you'll be able to pull viewers from all over that are fans of Koreans, Foreigners, etc. This is the same strategy used by a lot of major and minor league sports to grow their product. Put it this way, the previous system was dying, might as well try something new but to say it somehow failed already(as you are implying) is not only shortsighted but pushing forward a false narrative to prove a point that won't be proven for another few months if not year or two. | ||
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