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Poopi
France13018 Posts
Btw where are these people telling PvZ is ultra zerg favored, didn't seem to me when Drogo composition was destroying TLO's one or looking at the scores :x. I'm glad viOlet/Hydra didn't make it so people can see that 2 mid tier koreans are less likely to win than one of the 30 foreigners. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:35 Ppjack wrote: Cool ! Still better than any korean tournament, and broadcasted at the same horrible time  Nice bait! Hope you enjoyed watching. Congrats to little Drogo, and also to Bly! Nice finishes. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:35 Poopi wrote: Gratz Drogo. Btw where are these people telling PvZ is ultra zerg favored, didn't seem to me when Drogo composition was destroying TLO's one or looking at the scores :x. I'm glad viOlet/Hydra didn't make it so people can see that 2 mid tier koreans are less likely to win than one of the 30 foreigners. That was at the beginning of LOTV because of bad statistic from untrustworthy sites with bad record. Now people are a little bit more mature and understand that balance is not bad overall after the koreans started playing and we have seen some tournaments Like when LOTV came out Protoss player died to Lurker because they ran into them with stalkers and now they just build Observer, Zealots, Archon and Immortal and Lurker are basically useless. Game is always evolving. Maybe in 2 month everyone says Terran is stronger than protoss. who knows, but I think recent results have clearly shown to all people that Zerg is actually quite weak in LOTV | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:35 Poopi wrote: Gratz Drogo. Btw where are these people telling PvZ is ultra zerg favored, didn't seem to me when Drogo composition was destroying TLO's one or looking at the scores :x. I'm glad viOlet/Hydra didn't make it so people can see that 2 mid tier koreans are less likely to win than one of the 30 foreigners. That's not how statistics work and not what these result shows. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Wrath
3175 Posts
People do not tune in for a certain player or whatever, they tune in for the whole tournament or just Ro4 or the finals. | ||
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GoloSC2
713 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:14 Shuffleblade wrote: Well you are correct, it probably wasn't 20 but it was more than 10, it was at least 12. I can count for you when the cast is up. Nevertheless it wasn't a "harass" you could handle by splitting off a fraction of your army. Man, do you even play sc2, you realize the WP can go anywhere on the map right? You can't build static D in your main, first exp, third exp and around everyone of your tech structures. That would cost huge amounts of resources. I'm guessing you didn't say the same thing about mutas in hots did you, "oh well its his own fault for not building static defense all over every base" Complaing about balance is stupid, it was probably Blys build orders but the last game, there was just never anything Bly could have done to win that game. I personally didn't like sacrificing those Zerglings in the beginning. He sure did some damage but even after that harass I think they were even in workers while Drogo had been building up Adepts to defend vs the Lings. So he just built a few more and counterattacked, and after that Bly was behind. | ||
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Vedeynevin
United States431 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:14 Shuffleblade wrote: Well you are correct, it probably wasn't 20 but it was more than 10, it was at least 12. I can count for you when the cast is up. Nevertheless it wasn't a "harass" you could handle by splitting off a fraction of your army. Man, do you even play sc2, you realize the WP can go anywhere on the map right? You can't build static D in your main, first exp, third exp and around everyone of your tech structures. That would cost huge amounts of resources. I'm guessing you didn't say the same thing about mutas in hots did you, "oh well its his own fault for not building static defense all over every base" Complaing about balance is stupid, it was probably Blys build orders but the last game, there was just never anything Bly could have done to win that game. Lol, apparently I wasn't clear enough. There were times he pulled his entire army back for ONE ZEALOT THAT WAS ATTACKING A BUILDING HATCH AND DIDN'T COME FROM A WARP PRISM. Obviously you have to split off more then a few units to deal with late game prisms warping in 12 zealots. But even then you don't need to pull the whole army over there. Here lemme try....man do you even play sc2, you realize 2 roaches will kill 1 zealot right? They even added hotkeys in lotv that make it easier to split off units. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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Ppjack
Belgium489 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:38 boxerfred wrote: Nice bait! Hope you enjoyed watching. Congrats to little Drogo, and also to Bly! Nice finishes.  I did not see the finals, but overall I thought the tournament was really well paced and fun to watch. Since they don't broadcast every game and players are not on stage, maybe a loser bracket or another group stage would be really great/fair for players (eg: snute or marinelord not having to play almost only their worst MU). However the group stage-BO5-BO7 path was a great addition, dreamhacks always felt a bit too rushed even on Hots that had longer games. All in all I had a good time watching this dreamhack ! | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5524 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18742 Posts
Not surprising he finally wins a big one | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:16 sparklyresidue wrote: Is Drogo named after Khal Drogo from Game of Thrones? Wasn't expecting these results ! Were the games good? his name means little dragon | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:16 sparklyresidue wrote: Is Drogo named after Khal Drogo from Game of Thrones? Wasn't expecting these results ! Were the games good? Not exactly high quality but very back and forth and full of aggression. Drogo looked like a better player but Bly didn't give up easily. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:16 sparklyresidue wrote: Is Drogo named after Khal Drogo from Game of Thrones? Wasn't expecting these results ! Were the games good? Games weren't of the highest quality we have ever seen in the Starcraft. As for name I think PtitDrogo is french for "little dragon" they said on stream I believe. | ||
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rednusa
651 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:35 Ppjack wrote: Cool ! Still better than any korean tournament, and broadcasted at the same horrible time Do Koreans ever have tournaments on weekends? | ||
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ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:23 A_needle_jog wrote: Games weren't of the highest quality we have ever seen in the Starcraft. As for name I think PtitDrogo is french for "little dragon" they said on stream I believe. Dragon in french is dragon though :p Drogo doesn't mean anything, but if the casters said so maybe it's what he's going for i guess Ptit is basically petit which is like saying lil' instead of little | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:26 rednusa wrote: Do Koreans ever have tournaments on weekends? League finals are on weekends. | ||
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Poopi
France13018 Posts
On January 24 2016 21:40 gruff wrote: That's not how statistics work and not what these result shows. Pretty sure Hydra (viOlet might have bad aligulac elo, not sure) had the highest winning chance but it was more likely that someone who isn't him wins the whole thing. | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On January 24 2016 22:39 Poopi wrote: Pretty sure Hydra (viOlet might have bad aligulac elo, not sure) had the highest winning chance but it was more likely that someone who isn't him wins the whole thing. Hydra's aligulac rating is still inflated as heck from him reking worse players in HotS. He was like top 10 on aligulac before he lost to Bly which is completely absurd considering how Hydra has been playing in LotV (and yes viOlet's rating was really low). Drogo wasn't even in the top 5 to win I think and Bly neither. | ||
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