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yolteotl
Profile Joined October 2011
France76 Posts
January 24 2016 11:54 GMT
#561
So, WCS 2016 gives us a one sided final between a zerg who never won any major/premier tournament against a RO32 WCS2015 protoss.

"Great storylines" said Nerchio.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
January 24 2016 11:54 GMT
#562
On January 24 2016 20:50 Zergiica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 20:45 Vedeynevin wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:38 Zergiica wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:37 Zergiica wrote:
come on bly, win this and try to prove us there is balance in lotv!



aaand it's gone, better luck next time to all of the zergs and specially terrans because if there's no skill gap you have no chance right now.


Oh please. Drogo was clearly the better player imo. Several times bly would send his entire army to deal with small harass and then drove would snipe a base with his army. He also lost a few hatches to single zealots. Don't act like balance won this for drogo.

And before you say it, I play Zerg so I'm not fucking biased.


like i said, where is no skill gap, balance wins it. game is awful right now and that is it. i'm not saying drogo is bad or he didn't play it well, i'm just saying that imbalance made it possible for him to win tournamen he wouldn't win otherwise. and ban of skilled player, of course. but i don't mind less koreans in tournaments, it is good for foreign scene



So, suddently, P>Z, interesting...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
January 24 2016 11:54 GMT
#563
On January 24 2016 20:51 Yiome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 20:49 atrox_ wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:45 Shield wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:42 Heartland wrote:
"Today I am the fucking best [when all the better players have been banned from participating]"


Why are they banned?


if you're korean you aint allowed in

I thought it's just there is no Korean qualifiers. If their team is willing to pay for the traveling they can still play from the open right?


There's WCS Korea and WCS Circuit. You can't go between the two
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 24 2016 11:54 GMT
#564
On January 24 2016 20:50 Zergiica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 20:45 Vedeynevin wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:38 Zergiica wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:37 Zergiica wrote:
come on bly, win this and try to prove us there is balance in lotv!



aaand it's gone, better luck next time to all of the zergs and specially terrans because if there's no skill gap you have no chance right now.


Oh please. Drogo was clearly the better player imo. Several times bly would send his entire army to deal with small harass and then drove would snipe a base with his army. He also lost a few hatches to single zealots. Don't act like balance won this for drogo.

And before you say it, I play Zerg so I'm not fucking biased.


like i said, where is no skill gap, balance wins it. game is awful right now and that is it. i'm not saying drogo is bad or he didn't play it well, i'm just saying that imbalance made it possible for him to win tournamen he wouldn't win otherwise. and ban of skilled player, of course. but i don't mind less koreans in tournaments, it is good for foreign scene

hard counter design and asymmetrical opening/early game decrease the skill gap tremendously.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
January 24 2016 11:55 GMT
#565
On January 24 2016 20:53 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 20:45 Vedeynevin wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:38 Zergiica wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:37 Zergiica wrote:
come on bly, win this and try to prove us there is balance in lotv!



aaand it's gone, better luck next time to all of the zergs and specially terrans because if there's no skill gap you have no chance right now.


Oh please. Drogo was clearly the better player imo. Several times bly would send his entire army to deal with small harass and then drove would snipe a base with his army. He also lost a few hatches to single zealots. Don't act like balance won this for drogo.

And before you say it, I play Zerg so I'm not fucking biased.

Exactly my point about balance, WP harass, warps in 20 zealots, thats not a harass you can handle by branching off 5 roaches, Bly had to send at least half his army, which would have made it impossible for him to defend the army sniping the hatch anyway. In that situation Bly made the better choice, move whole army to get minimal losses from zealots since if you would take half there would be nothing they could do anyway.

The games were low econ, they weren't maxed out, Bly didn't have a huge army. WP harass is really really hard to deal with.


Warping in 20 zealots doesn't sound like low econ game.
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
January 24 2016 11:55 GMT
#566
I am Zerg fanboy many people know me, but I think we have to honestly say that Bly played bad games today. I think this games today are no reason for balance discussion in either way
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3949980/1/llllllllllll/
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 24 2016 11:55 GMT
#567
On January 24 2016 20:54 yolteotl wrote:
So, WCS 2016 gives us a one sided final between a zerg who never won any major/premier tournament against a RO32 WCS2015 protoss.

"Great storylines" said Nerchio.


It's a new game, you can't look at past results.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
January 24 2016 11:56 GMT
#568
On January 24 2016 20:55 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 20:53 Shuffleblade wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:45 Vedeynevin wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:38 Zergiica wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:37 Zergiica wrote:
come on bly, win this and try to prove us there is balance in lotv!



aaand it's gone, better luck next time to all of the zergs and specially terrans because if there's no skill gap you have no chance right now.


Oh please. Drogo was clearly the better player imo. Several times bly would send his entire army to deal with small harass and then drove would snipe a base with his army. He also lost a few hatches to single zealots. Don't act like balance won this for drogo.

And before you say it, I play Zerg so I'm not fucking biased.

Exactly my point about balance, WP harass, warps in 20 zealots, thats not a harass you can handle by branching off 5 roaches, Bly had to send at least half his army, which would have made it impossible for him to defend the army sniping the hatch anyway. In that situation Bly made the better choice, move whole army to get minimal losses from zealots since if you would take half there would be nothing they could do anyway.

The games were low econ, they weren't maxed out, Bly didn't have a huge army. WP harass is really really hard to deal with.


Warping in 20 zealots doesn't sound like low econ game.

Well the last game was low econ for Bly, not so much for Drogo, thats true xD
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 24 2016 11:56 GMT
#569
On January 24 2016 20:54 yolteotl wrote:
So, WCS 2016 gives us a one sided final between a zerg who never won any major/premier tournament against a RO32 WCS2015 protoss.

"Great storylines" said Nerchio.

storylines have to start somewhere
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
January 24 2016 11:56 GMT
#570
On January 24 2016 20:50 Gullis wrote:
I don't like all the emotion.
this is what people wanna watch http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/b/480596881?t=9h48m03s


I don't mind either way.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
January 24 2016 11:58 GMT
#571
On January 24 2016 20:55 A_needle_jog wrote:
I am Zerg fanboy many people know me, but I think we have to honestly say that Bly played bad games today. I think this games today are no reason for balance discussion in either way

I disagree I thought Bly played great games, besides the game he threw by running his maxed out hydra army into the meatgrinder. (And oh yeah I missed the first two games don't know how they looked)
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
PsychoKillerSC2
Profile Joined December 2015
6 Posts
January 24 2016 11:58 GMT
#572
link replay on?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-24 11:59:32
January 24 2016 11:58 GMT
#573
Sad for Bly but I'm excited for DH: Austin!!! I'll be able to actually visit.

Also grats drogo!
Life?
Clipped
Profile Joined August 2010
France122 Posts
January 24 2016 11:59 GMT
#574
On January 24 2016 20:53 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 20:45 Vedeynevin wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:38 Zergiica wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:37 Zergiica wrote:
come on bly, win this and try to prove us there is balance in lotv!



aaand it's gone, better luck next time to all of the zergs and specially terrans because if there's no skill gap you have no chance right now.


Oh please. Drogo was clearly the better player imo. Several times bly would send his entire army to deal with small harass and then drove would snipe a base with his army. He also lost a few hatches to single zealots. Don't act like balance won this for drogo.

And before you say it, I play Zerg so I'm not fucking biased.

Exactly my point about balance, WP harass, warps in 20 zealots, thats not a harass you can handle by branching off 5 roaches, Bly had to send at least half his army, which would have made it impossible for him to defend the army sniping the hatch anyway. In that situation Bly made the better choice, move whole army to get minimal losses from zealots since if you would take half there would be nothing they could do anyway.

The games were low econ, they weren't maxed out, Bly didn't have a huge army. WP harass is really really hard to deal with.
You realize 20 zealots is 40 supply right? At no point did Drogo warp in 20 zealots. Bly should have made static-D to mess with the zealot ai and kill or even damage the WP while protecting his expansions with his main army. He couldn't and that's why he repeatedly lost the econ war.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
January 24 2016 12:00 GMT
#575
On January 24 2016 20:53 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 20:51 Yiome wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:49 atrox_ wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:45 Shield wrote:
On January 24 2016 20:42 Heartland wrote:
"Today I am the fucking best [when all the better players have been banned from participating]"


Why are they banned?


if you're korean you aint allowed in

I thought it's just there is no Korean qualifiers. If their team is willing to pay for the traveling they can still play from the open right?

Nope

Nvm I confused circuits event with global ones
I thought DH would be a WCS globe events.
IceBerrY
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany220 Posts
January 24 2016 12:03 GMT
#576
On January 24 2016 20:54 yolteotl wrote:
So, WCS 2016 gives us a one sided final between a zerg who never won any major/premier tournament against a RO32 WCS2015 protoss.

"Great storylines" said Nerchio.


Yeah right, because unexpected winners are truly boring.
What is wrong with people on TL, so much salt, it is horrible and sad.
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
January 24 2016 12:04 GMT
#577
Someone does know what is the music they used at the transition before last game? I know its from monstercat but i can't find which one it is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
January 24 2016 12:05 GMT
#578
GJ Drogo.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ppjack
Profile Joined March 2015
Belgium489 Posts
January 24 2016 12:12 GMT
#579
GG Drogo !

How was the viewership ?
<;o)
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 24 2016 12:13 GMT
#580
Replays:

"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
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