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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 20 2015 20:04 GMT
#1281
On December 21 2015 05:03 Sent. wrote:
Is this the first HSC event without segments with that XMG guy that no one ever watched?

What XMG guy?
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
December 20 2015 20:04 GMT
#1282
"I bet on MMA because he's a korean."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 20 2015 20:04 GMT
#1283
On December 21 2015 05:02 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:00 Ansibled wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 nanaoei wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:30 BigAsia wrote:
this is why starcraft isn't great to watch. game was over like 10 minutes ago even the casters can't say anything. i rarely see games turn around, there is just no comeback mechanic


perhaps you are a heroes of the storm player, but in a lot of games of top caliber players absolutely do not want to let their opponent back into the game even if it means extending it and redoubling the motions to win.

then there's the fact that it's 2-2 and real money and exposure is on the line.
players would hate playing if it was so swingy and all it takes is one misplaced mistake for it to change sides at a bad time.

seriously, comeback mechanic is the first time i've ever heard it described as that lol.
your comeback mechanic is playing well!

I think having comeback mechanics make sense when your average game length is something upwards of 30/40 minutes, it is pretty painful to watch a game that has been won for 20 minutes but takes time to close and where surrendering is pretty uncommon.


So you are saying you hate lol ?
SC2 games were never 30 min on average even during the SH era

yeah if sc2 has got anything going for itself, it's that you can amove your opponent into win after getting a big lead instead of containing him on 2 bases for 30 minutes and waiting for the goon/storm deathball to walk into DS/lurk/plague and die
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 20 2015 20:04 GMT
#1284
On December 21 2015 05:03 Sent. wrote:
Is this the first HSC event without segments with that XMG guy that no one ever watched?

XMG doesn't sponsor HSC anymore.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
December 20 2015 20:05 GMT
#1285
On December 21 2015 05:03 Sent. wrote:
Is this the first HSC event without segments with that XMG guy that no one ever watched?

we've gone full mifcom
I Protoss winner, could it be?
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
December 20 2015 20:05 GMT
#1286
Gogo MMA no mirror final please
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 20 2015 20:05 GMT
#1287
On December 21 2015 05:04 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:02 HellHound wrote:
On December 21 2015 05:00 Ansibled wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 nanaoei wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:30 BigAsia wrote:
this is why starcraft isn't great to watch. game was over like 10 minutes ago even the casters can't say anything. i rarely see games turn around, there is just no comeback mechanic


perhaps you are a heroes of the storm player, but in a lot of games of top caliber players absolutely do not want to let their opponent back into the game even if it means extending it and redoubling the motions to win.

then there's the fact that it's 2-2 and real money and exposure is on the line.
players would hate playing if it was so swingy and all it takes is one misplaced mistake for it to change sides at a bad time.

seriously, comeback mechanic is the first time i've ever heard it described as that lol.
your comeback mechanic is playing well!

I think having comeback mechanics make sense when your average game length is something upwards of 30/40 minutes, it is pretty painful to watch a game that has been won for 20 minutes but takes time to close and where surrendering is pretty uncommon.


So you are saying you hate lol ?
SC2 games were never 30 min on average even during the SH era

yeah if sc2 has got anything going for itself, it's that you can amove your opponent into win after getting a big lead instead of containing him on 2 bases for 30 minutes and waiting for the goon/storm deathball to walk into DS/lurk/plague and die

I want stuff to walk into plague and die
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 20:06:39
December 20 2015 20:05 GMT
#1288
On December 21 2015 05:02 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:00 Ansibled wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 nanaoei wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:30 BigAsia wrote:
this is why starcraft isn't great to watch. game was over like 10 minutes ago even the casters can't say anything. i rarely see games turn around, there is just no comeback mechanic


perhaps you are a heroes of the storm player, but in a lot of games of top caliber players absolutely do not want to let their opponent back into the game even if it means extending it and redoubling the motions to win.

then there's the fact that it's 2-2 and real money and exposure is on the line.
players would hate playing if it was so swingy and all it takes is one misplaced mistake for it to change sides at a bad time.

seriously, comeback mechanic is the first time i've ever heard it described as that lol.
your comeback mechanic is playing well!

I think having comeback mechanics make sense when your average game length is something upwards of 30/40 minutes, it is pretty painful to watch a game that has been won for 20 minutes but takes time to close and where surrendering is pretty uncommon.


So you are saying you hate lol ?
SC2 games were never 30 min on average even during the SH era

I don't hate it, I think it's gotten worse with time though.

I was just comparing to other games where I thinks it makes more sense, since saying something like 'this is why starcraft isn't great to watch' is weird to me.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
December 20 2015 20:06 GMT
#1289
On December 21 2015 05:02 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 04:57 Glorfindel! wrote:
Strippers and this, and then you wonder why girls feels it is hard to be accepted in esport and feel relaxed in the scene...
I dislike this alot.

You prolly need the gift of bunny .

Well, I can understand if you apriciate if you are fourteen and feel that watching boobs on the computer is somewhat thrilling in case your parents walks into the room.
But if I want to watch HSC with my girlfriend and suddenly strippers and naked girls is part of the entertainment the whole thing just looks like a lot of unmature geeks that needs to grow up. Quite hard to take it seriously.
Imagine a fotball team hiring strippers and tweeting videos. Would for sure make the news for a while.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4067 Posts
December 20 2015 20:06 GMT
#1290
I like Elazer too but this time MMA has to win.

Go MMA!
<3 things - Life | Kane | Innovation | Scarlett | Solar | MMA
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 20 2015 20:07 GMT
#1291
On December 21 2015 05:05 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:02 HellHound wrote:
On December 21 2015 05:00 Ansibled wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 nanaoei wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:30 BigAsia wrote:
this is why starcraft isn't great to watch. game was over like 10 minutes ago even the casters can't say anything. i rarely see games turn around, there is just no comeback mechanic


perhaps you are a heroes of the storm player, but in a lot of games of top caliber players absolutely do not want to let their opponent back into the game even if it means extending it and redoubling the motions to win.

then there's the fact that it's 2-2 and real money and exposure is on the line.
players would hate playing if it was so swingy and all it takes is one misplaced mistake for it to change sides at a bad time.

seriously, comeback mechanic is the first time i've ever heard it described as that lol.
your comeback mechanic is playing well!

I think having comeback mechanics make sense when your average game length is something upwards of 30/40 minutes, it is pretty painful to watch a game that has been won for 20 minutes but takes time to close and where surrendering is pretty uncommon.


So you are saying you hate lol ?
SC2 games were never 30 min on average even during the SH era

I don't hate it, I think it's gotten worse with time though.

I was just comparing to other games where I thinks it makes sense, since saying something like 'this is why starcraft isn't great to watch' is weird to me.

You are ignoring my argument and focusing on the word
Games rarely go past 20 let alone have nothing happen for 20 more min.
It's not why you don't think sc2 is great to watch
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 20 2015 20:07 GMT
#1292
lmao Elazer is real and he's just going to nydus every game
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14464 Posts
December 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#1293
On December 21 2015 05:06 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:02 Strela wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 Glorfindel! wrote:
Strippers and this, and then you wonder why girls feels it is hard to be accepted in esport and feel relaxed in the scene...
I dislike this alot.

You prolly need the gift of bunny .

Well, I can understand if you apriciate if you are fourteen and feel that watching boobs on the computer is somewhat thrilling in case your parents walks into the room.
But if I want to watch HSC with my girlfriend and suddenly strippers and naked girls is part of the entertainment the whole thing just looks like a lot of unmature geeks that needs to grow up. Quite hard to take it seriously.
Imagine a fotball team hiring strippers and tweeting videos. Would for sure make the news for a while.

Strippers happened when the stream was offline
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#1294
On December 21 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:05 Ansibled wrote:
On December 21 2015 05:02 HellHound wrote:
On December 21 2015 05:00 Ansibled wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 nanaoei wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:30 BigAsia wrote:
this is why starcraft isn't great to watch. game was over like 10 minutes ago even the casters can't say anything. i rarely see games turn around, there is just no comeback mechanic


perhaps you are a heroes of the storm player, but in a lot of games of top caliber players absolutely do not want to let their opponent back into the game even if it means extending it and redoubling the motions to win.

then there's the fact that it's 2-2 and real money and exposure is on the line.
players would hate playing if it was so swingy and all it takes is one misplaced mistake for it to change sides at a bad time.

seriously, comeback mechanic is the first time i've ever heard it described as that lol.
your comeback mechanic is playing well!

I think having comeback mechanics make sense when your average game length is something upwards of 30/40 minutes, it is pretty painful to watch a game that has been won for 20 minutes but takes time to close and where surrendering is pretty uncommon.


So you are saying you hate lol ?
SC2 games were never 30 min on average even during the SH era

I don't hate it, I think it's gotten worse with time though.

I was just comparing to other games where I thinks it makes sense, since saying something like 'this is why starcraft isn't great to watch' is weird to me.

You are ignoring my argument and focusing on the word
Games rarely go past 20 let alone have nothing happen for 20 more min.
It's not why you don't think sc2 is great to watch

I wasn't talking about SC2 there.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 20 2015 20:09 GMT
#1295
On December 21 2015 05:08 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:
On December 21 2015 05:05 Ansibled wrote:
On December 21 2015 05:02 HellHound wrote:
On December 21 2015 05:00 Ansibled wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 nanaoei wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:30 BigAsia wrote:
this is why starcraft isn't great to watch. game was over like 10 minutes ago even the casters can't say anything. i rarely see games turn around, there is just no comeback mechanic


perhaps you are a heroes of the storm player, but in a lot of games of top caliber players absolutely do not want to let their opponent back into the game even if it means extending it and redoubling the motions to win.

then there's the fact that it's 2-2 and real money and exposure is on the line.
players would hate playing if it was so swingy and all it takes is one misplaced mistake for it to change sides at a bad time.

seriously, comeback mechanic is the first time i've ever heard it described as that lol.
your comeback mechanic is playing well!

I think having comeback mechanics make sense when your average game length is something upwards of 30/40 minutes, it is pretty painful to watch a game that has been won for 20 minutes but takes time to close and where surrendering is pretty uncommon.


So you are saying you hate lol ?
SC2 games were never 30 min on average even during the SH era

I don't hate it, I think it's gotten worse with time though.

I was just comparing to other games where I thinks it makes sense, since saying something like 'this is why starcraft isn't great to watch' is weird to me.

You are ignoring my argument and focusing on the word
Games rarely go past 20 let alone have nothing happen for 20 more min.
It's not why you don't think sc2 is great to watch

I wasn't talking about SC2 there.

ok entertain me what were you talking about
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#1296
nydus is so broken
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#1297
NYDUS SO IMBALANCED
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
December 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#1298
On December 21 2015 05:08 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:06 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 21 2015 05:02 Strela wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 Glorfindel! wrote:
Strippers and this, and then you wonder why girls feels it is hard to be accepted in esport and feel relaxed in the scene...
I dislike this alot.

You prolly need the gift of bunny .

Well, I can understand if you apriciate if you are fourteen and feel that watching boobs on the computer is somewhat thrilling in case your parents walks into the room.
But if I want to watch HSC with my girlfriend and suddenly strippers and naked girls is part of the entertainment the whole thing just looks like a lot of unmature geeks that needs to grow up. Quite hard to take it seriously.
Imagine a fotball team hiring strippers and tweeting videos. Would for sure make the news for a while.

Strippers happened when the stream was offline

Well.. With the "stars" of European Esport (who Blizzard will support with their own tournament to give them a chance to shine), at the place of the organizer of the tournament, tweeted by the caster of the tournament.
On stream or not, as a part of the scene atleast I lose the respect for these guys. If you want to go to a strip club, there are other times then on an esport tournament. Just like professional athletes would not hire strippers after a game to the arena.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
December 20 2015 20:12 GMT
#1299
Welp. That was quick.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
December 20 2015 20:12 GMT
#1300
On December 21 2015 05:06 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 05:02 Strela wrote:
On December 21 2015 04:57 Glorfindel! wrote:
Strippers and this, and then you wonder why girls feels it is hard to be accepted in esport and feel relaxed in the scene...
I dislike this alot.

You prolly need the gift of bunny .

Well, I can understand if you apriciate if you are fourteen and feel that watching boobs on the computer is somewhat thrilling in case your parents walks into the room.
But if I want to watch HSC with my girlfriend and suddenly strippers and naked girls is part of the entertainment the whole thing just looks like a lot of unmature geeks that needs to grow up. Quite hard to take it seriously.
Imagine a fotball team hiring strippers and tweeting videos. Would for sure make the news for a while.

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