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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 28 2015 18:19 GMT
#1601
I have a dream
that one day

LR threads will mostly be about the games.


Anyone think FireCake stands a chance?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 28 2015 18:19 GMT
#1602
On November 29 2015 03:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 02:46 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 29 2015 02:45 b0lt wrote:
This is somehow worse than colossus deathball vs colossus deathball....

How can this possibly be worse than Colossi a-click wars? This has a lot of positioning and micro in it, Colossi don't...

The last sentence is ridiculous. Colossi wars were everything about positioning.

Colossus wars were almost always decided on numbers and angle, and there was very little twitch micro one could observe as a spectator or one could showcase as a pro. They created a big fight and gave a very deflating feeling afterwards.
The Bomber boy
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
November 28 2015 18:19 GMT
#1603
PvP in LoTV is more boring than swarm hosts games of late.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#1604
On November 29 2015 03:19 KeksX wrote:
I have a dream
that one day

LR threads will mostly be about the games.


Anyone think FireCake stands a chance?

Nope.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#1605
On November 29 2015 03:12 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Bad control from Showtime

Yeah, that costed him the game. Otherwise it was quite cool.

Still one can only hope for PvP to continue being Stalker + Disruptor wars. Glad that a lot of people like it here in the forums, gives me hope that I am not totally insane.


I can believe people find Stalker/Disruptor wars entertaining; I can't believe they think this is an example of good RTS design.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
November 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#1606
#JESUISGATEAUBRULE
RIP MKP
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#1607
On November 29 2015 03:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:17 Mozdk wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:11 Mozdk wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:06 Mozdk wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:02 VictorX wrote:
If a 20 minute game is long to you then:

1. you have amnesia and forgot the Swarmhost vs. Swarmhost days already

2. You have ADHD

Honestly this is way more fun to watch than Colossus deathballs rubbing against each other.

They changed the timers, this is like a 40 minute hots game



They changed it from 0.8 to 1. Your math is very wrong.

That game was over 30 minutes so nope


The discussion was about 20 mins. And yes... it's still wrong with 30. Because math.

My point is that the game was long and boring tho


And his point was was that it was equaly boring and much much longer. Which you tried to argue against, but actually didn't.... And he we stand at the same place. Do you want a second chance? Or what is your point?

I don't know but I need a drink


Cheers to you sir. I'll have a vodka and coke. What are you having?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#1608
On November 29 2015 03:16 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:14 brickrd wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:05 KeksX wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:02 VictorX wrote:
If a 20 minute game is long to you then:

1. you have amnesia and forgot the Swarmhost vs. Swarmhost days already

2. You have ADHD

Honestly this is way more fun to watch than Colossus deathballs rubbing against each other.

They changed the timers, this is like a 40 minute hots game


Your math is off. 20 minutes = 27~ minutes in Blizzard time.

Also, another confirmation for my theory. I should write a thesis.

i wasn't paying close attention but i'm pretty sure i remember seeing/apollo saying it was a 24 minute game a couple of minutes before it ended? wasn't it actually 25+ minutes?


Yeah the game was longer than 20 minutes, I'm just saying that the factor is *1.38, not like 2.0 like KingofdaHipHop said(since VictorX talked about a 20 minute game and wasn't specifically talking about this series).

I dropped calculus senior of high school what's a math
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#1609
On November 29 2015 03:19 KeksX wrote:
I have a dream
that one day

LR threads will mostly be about the games.


Anyone think FireCake stands a chance?


That's a bold dream though, I think they are getting less about the games over time, similarly to a Tastosis cast...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12582 Posts
November 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#1610
On November 29 2015 03:19 KeksX wrote:
I have a dream
that one day

LR threads will mostly be about the games.


Anyone think FireCake stands a chance?


Frankly I think this is the finals as the finals won't be very interesting either way
No will to live, no wish to die
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 28 2015 18:21 GMT
#1611
On November 29 2015 03:19 KeksX wrote:
I have a dream
that one day

LR threads will mostly be about the games.


Anyone think FireCake stands a chance?


Yes. I believe he has a great chance vs Parting.


Great meaning maybe 20-80.



Gogo Parting!
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 28 2015 18:21 GMT
#1612
On November 29 2015 03:20 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:17 Mozdk wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:11 Mozdk wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:06 Mozdk wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:02 VictorX wrote:
If a 20 minute game is long to you then:

1. you have amnesia and forgot the Swarmhost vs. Swarmhost days already

2. You have ADHD

Honestly this is way more fun to watch than Colossus deathballs rubbing against each other.

They changed the timers, this is like a 40 minute hots game



They changed it from 0.8 to 1. Your math is very wrong.

That game was over 30 minutes so nope


The discussion was about 20 mins. And yes... it's still wrong with 30. Because math.

My point is that the game was long and boring tho


And his point was was that it was equaly boring and much much longer. Which you tried to argue against, but actually didn't.... And he we stand at the same place. Do you want a second chance? Or what is your point?

I don't know but I need a drink


Cheers to you sir. I'll have a vodka and coke. What are you having?

Nothing cause I'm at home :|
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 28 2015 18:21 GMT
#1613
On November 29 2015 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:14 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:14 HeroMystic wrote:
Parting says Disruptor needs to be nerfed.

A PRO GAMER HAS SPOKEN BLIZZARD!


I don't think "I want to win easier" will be received with a lot of attention by Blizzard as an argument =)

Well maybe in PvP, but they would get nerfed for PvT and PvZ too, and they seem to be mandatory there right now(at least in PvZ).


I've been watching State a little bit and he had some pretty exciting games in PvZ with stalker disruptor. And those PvPs didn't even look bad, I hope they keep it the way it is for at least a while

Not saying that they need to change, just that he wouldn't be able to win more easily with nerfed Disruptors since that would affect other match-ups.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 28 2015 18:21 GMT
#1614
On November 29 2015 03:19 KeksX wrote:
I have a dream
that one day

LR threads will mostly be about the games.


Anyone think FireCake stands a chance?

firecake lasted 26 minutes against solar (which was higher than my 22 minutes expectation)

this time firegod will take 1 map
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
November 28 2015 18:21 GMT
#1615
On November 29 2015 03:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 02:46 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 29 2015 02:45 b0lt wrote:
This is somehow worse than colossus deathball vs colossus deathball....

How can this possibly be worse than Colossi a-click wars? This has a lot of positioning and micro in it, Colossi don't...

The last sentence is ridiculous. Colossi wars were everything about positioning.


Colossus is a very snowbally unit. You have a few more than your opponent and you gain huge advantage. You can even push those advantage further because colossi have no cooldown. Disruptors can always stage a comeback with a right shot.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12582 Posts
November 28 2015 18:21 GMT
#1616
On November 29 2015 03:21 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:14 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:14 HeroMystic wrote:
Parting says Disruptor needs to be nerfed.

A PRO GAMER HAS SPOKEN BLIZZARD!


I don't think "I want to win easier" will be received with a lot of attention by Blizzard as an argument =)

Well maybe in PvP, but they would get nerfed for PvT and PvZ too, and they seem to be mandatory there right now(at least in PvZ).


I've been watching State a little bit and he had some pretty exciting games in PvZ with stalker disruptor. And those PvPs didn't even look bad, I hope they keep it the way it is for at least a while

Not saying that they need to change, just that he wouldn't be able to win more easily with nerfed Disruptors since that would affect other match-ups.


Yeah I was agreeing with you
No will to live, no wish to die
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 28 2015 18:21 GMT
#1617
On November 29 2015 03:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:12 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Bad control from Showtime

Yeah, that costed him the game. Otherwise it was quite cool.

Still one can only hope for PvP to continue being Stalker + Disruptor wars. Glad that a lot of people like it here in the forums, gives me hope that I am not totally insane.


I can believe people find Stalker/Disruptor wars entertaining; I can't believe they think this is an example of good RTS design.

?
The Bomber boy
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
November 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#1618
On November 29 2015 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:14 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:14 HeroMystic wrote:
Parting says Disruptor needs to be nerfed.

A PRO GAMER HAS SPOKEN BLIZZARD!


I don't think "I want to win easier" will be received with a lot of attention by Blizzard as an argument =)

Well maybe in PvP, but they would get nerfed for PvT and PvZ too, and they seem to be mandatory there right now(at least in PvZ).


I've been watching State a little bit and he had some pretty exciting games in PvZ with stalker disruptor. And those PvPs didn't even look bad, I hope they keep it the way it is for at least a while


After thinking about it, I agree. PvP is exciting to watch now, even though actually playing it looks like a real pain in the ass, but such is life as a pro-gamer.

Now, all PvP needs now is warp prism harassment with Zealots and DTs because there is no reason why you should keep bolstering a Stalker army when having a numbers advantage doesn't matter with Disruptor shots. Killing the economy and not allowing your opponent to rebuild will be way more important.

If it goes like this, I think PvP will have a bright future after years of having coinflip matches.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#1619
On November 29 2015 03:17 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:11 Mozdk wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:06 Mozdk wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:02 VictorX wrote:
If a 20 minute game is long to you then:

1. you have amnesia and forgot the Swarmhost vs. Swarmhost days already

2. You have ADHD

Honestly this is way more fun to watch than Colossus deathballs rubbing against each other.

They changed the timers, this is like a 40 minute hots game



They changed it from 0.8 to 1. Your math is very wrong.

That game was over 30 minutes so nope


The discussion was about 20 mins. And yes... it's still wrong with 30. Because math.

My point is that the game was long and boring tho


And his point was was that it was equaly boring and much much longer. Which you tried to argue against, but actually didn't.... And he we stand at the same place. Do you want a second chance? Or what is your point?


The game might be boring to some, but it is definitely not as boring as this conversation you are having here
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#1620
On November 29 2015 03:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 03:12 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 29 2015 03:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Bad control from Showtime

Yeah, that costed him the game. Otherwise it was quite cool.

Still one can only hope for PvP to continue being Stalker + Disruptor wars. Glad that a lot of people like it here in the forums, gives me hope that I am not totally insane.


I can believe people find Stalker/Disruptor wars entertaining; I can't believe they think this is an example of good RTS design.

It reminded me of SCBW Dragoon + Reavers. I can't believe that you didn't like it, especially when you consider what kind of horrors we had in WoL and HotS that called themselves "good PvP"...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
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