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On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:34 Nebuchad wrote:On November 08 2015 11:33 pure.Wasted wrote:On November 08 2015 11:24 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:20 Diabolique wrote:On November 08 2015 11:09 jubil wrote:
Matches can be epic for different reasons. Long macro games give you that "slow burn" epicness where both players are building up and trying to find incremental advantages; but short, back and forth games with all-ins and timing attacks are nice for the clutch starsense and micro. Like, when you know the stakes are high and the player has put everything on the line, and needs to win it all with just a handful of zerglings, that's epic too. So props to both Life and sOs, ggs, and gl in LotV!
(also, did anyone else get flashbacks to the Life/Parting GSL final where the last map was also Iron Fortress, and Life again did an early zergling rush? I wonder if sOs remembered....) No, long macro games like the one yesterday Classic vs. herO are making people leave SC2 for other games, They are so boring. Never epic. I'd rather watch 7 30 minute drg vs innovation, taeja vs innovation, jd vs dear, curious vs innovation, flash vs hyvaa, ryung vs flash, then the shit we just saw. Notice any pattern emerging between the series you listed? Like the correlation between "Terran" and "good games"? It's almost as if people have bias Oô Terran matchups are historically pretty good to watch.
For the people who like them. I had a 2-3 month period of my life where I had a real hard time falling asleep. The trick I found at the time was to watch TvT Bo5s.
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On November 08 2015 11:34 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:33 pure.Wasted wrote:On November 08 2015 11:24 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:20 Diabolique wrote:On November 08 2015 11:09 jubil wrote:
Matches can be epic for different reasons. Long macro games give you that "slow burn" epicness where both players are building up and trying to find incremental advantages; but short, back and forth games with all-ins and timing attacks are nice for the clutch starsense and micro. Like, when you know the stakes are high and the player has put everything on the line, and needs to win it all with just a handful of zerglings, that's epic too. So props to both Life and sOs, ggs, and gl in LotV!
(also, did anyone else get flashbacks to the Life/Parting GSL final where the last map was also Iron Fortress, and Life again did an early zergling rush? I wonder if sOs remembered....) No, long macro games like the one yesterday Classic vs. herO are making people leave SC2 for other games, They are so boring. Never epic. I'd rather watch 7 30 minute drg vs innovation, taeja vs innovation, jd vs dear, curious vs innovation, flash vs hyvaa, ryung vs flash, then the shit we just saw. Notice any pattern emerging between the series you listed? Like the correlation between "Terran" and "good games"? I again have to ask why you were expecting great macro games from a PvZ. There have been good pvz games, and good zvz games. Freaky vs Life is top 5 best game ever played, and thats something thats a "fun" game.
Yes, and how often do games like that happen in those MUs?
Often enough for you to get your hopes up that the series will be full of them?
The series between Life and sOs?
Maybe I'm projecting, but it sounds to me like you're pussyfooting around saying that half of the MUs in Heart of the Swarm are shit. Just say that and I'll agree with you! But expecting something different from these two players in this finals is silly. They put everything on the line in every single game, they were fearless, and that made for a great show. Not a great competition, maybe, but a great show.
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On November 08 2015 11:38 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:36 Cricketer12 wrote:On November 08 2015 11:35 Deathstar wrote:On November 08 2015 11:34 Snorkels wrote:On November 08 2015 11:31 deacon.frost wrote:
I can finally go to bed. I am not that pumped anymore... Sleep well and dream of JAGW $O$ and Rogue watches over the realm, and all is good. Maru is trash you shit DRG is trash
Die
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On November 08 2015 11:38 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:37 TheDougler wrote:On November 08 2015 11:36 The_Templar wrote:On November 08 2015 11:36 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:35 stuchiu wrote:
Freaky is the only player that was ever loved for using mass infestors. I think it's because he was on NSH as well as his game vs that protoss (ace?) that resulted in carriers. He also only used them lol I believe it was CranK on Entombed Valley. Freaky's other game with mass infestor that was great also had battlecruisers in it (I forget who it was against, but it WAS a thing). To be fair, early on Destiny was also loved for his use of mass infestor. vs MMA? on Atlantis Spaceship
That's the one!
Man, that is some SICK memory you've got. Kudos.
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On November 08 2015 11:36 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:34 negativedge wrote:
hyvaa produced a surprising amount of great macro games. when he was on point the dude was legit good. and of course he knew how to game people. Hyvaa was the greatest cheeser of them all. He knew how to play macro, but he just prefered to cheese.
Because why win or lose in 18 minutes when you can win or lose in 8.
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guys it's almost time for Linkin Park, how can you be negative at a time like this?
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On November 08 2015 11:39 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:34 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:33 pure.Wasted wrote:On November 08 2015 11:24 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:20 Diabolique wrote:On November 08 2015 11:09 jubil wrote:
Matches can be epic for different reasons. Long macro games give you that "slow burn" epicness where both players are building up and trying to find incremental advantages; but short, back and forth games with all-ins and timing attacks are nice for the clutch starsense and micro. Like, when you know the stakes are high and the player has put everything on the line, and needs to win it all with just a handful of zerglings, that's epic too. So props to both Life and sOs, ggs, and gl in LotV!
(also, did anyone else get flashbacks to the Life/Parting GSL final where the last map was also Iron Fortress, and Life again did an early zergling rush? I wonder if sOs remembered....) No, long macro games like the one yesterday Classic vs. herO are making people leave SC2 for other games, They are so boring. Never epic. I'd rather watch 7 30 minute drg vs innovation, taeja vs innovation, jd vs dear, curious vs innovation, flash vs hyvaa, ryung vs flash, then the shit we just saw. Notice any pattern emerging between the series you listed? Like the correlation between "Terran" and "good games"? I again have to ask why you were expecting great macro games from a PvZ. There have been good pvz games, and good zvz games. Freaky vs Life is top 5 best game ever played, and thats something thats a "fun" game. Yes, and how often do games like that happen in those MUs? Often enough for you to get your hopes up that the series will be full of them? The series between Life and sOs? Maybe I'm projecting, but it sounds to me like you're pussyfooting around saying that half of the MUs in Heart of the Swarm are shit. Just say that and I'll agree with you! But expecting something different from these two players in this finals is silly.
I don't want to offend 80% of the people who signed up after 2014 and think what we just saw was groundbreaking
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On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that. YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!  Mind quoting me where I said that?
Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really
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On November 08 2015 11:39 Frankenberry wrote:Fantastic finals. A funny thought. Life won the first (as far as I remember) big tournament - an MLG vs. Flash in the finals. Would have been beautiful if he had also won the last. But sOs played fantastic. It was well deserved and the games were great to watch (even for a terran like me). Also last time sOs won Blizzcon in 2013 the crowd didn't really cheer that much for him, since he took away the Blizzcon from Jaedong. Everyone wanted Jaedong to win. This time when he came out of that booth the crowd really cheered for him. Well deserved! Fantastic ending to HotS 
Yoda did actually.
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On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that. YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD! Mind quoting me where I said that? Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really
These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals.
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On November 08 2015 11:34 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:33 pure.Wasted wrote:On November 08 2015 11:24 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:20 Diabolique wrote:On November 08 2015 11:09 jubil wrote:
Matches can be epic for different reasons. Long macro games give you that "slow burn" epicness where both players are building up and trying to find incremental advantages; but short, back and forth games with all-ins and timing attacks are nice for the clutch starsense and micro. Like, when you know the stakes are high and the player has put everything on the line, and needs to win it all with just a handful of zerglings, that's epic too. So props to both Life and sOs, ggs, and gl in LotV!
(also, did anyone else get flashbacks to the Life/Parting GSL final where the last map was also Iron Fortress, and Life again did an early zergling rush? I wonder if sOs remembered....) No, long macro games like the one yesterday Classic vs. herO are making people leave SC2 for other games, They are so boring. Never epic. I'd rather watch 7 30 minute drg vs innovation, taeja vs innovation, jd vs dear, curious vs innovation, flash vs hyvaa, ryung vs flash, then the shit we just saw. Notice any pattern emerging between the series you listed? Like the correlation between "Terran" and "good games"? I again have to ask why you were expecting great macro games from a PvZ. There have been good pvz games, and good zvz games. Freaky vs Life is top 5 best game ever played, and thats something thats a "fun" game.
TBF Freaky vs Life was good for 2 reasons:
1) it was Freaky so it had mass infestors
2) Life accidentally researched OL drops and just rolled with it
otherwise it would've ended much sooner with Life amoving Freaky
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On November 08 2015 11:39 Die4Ever wrote:
guys it's almost time for Linkin Park, how can you be negative at a time like this?
Idk man, linkin park in my memory was listended to primarily by kids in a negative state of mind during puberty.
Still though...
+ Show Spoiler +
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On November 08 2015 11:39 Die4Ever wrote:
guys it's almost time for Linkin Park, how can you be negative at a time like this?
They will probably play some new stuff
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On November 08 2015 11:41 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that. YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD! Mind quoting me where I said that? Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals.
"I dont undersand how anyone" vs "you're an idiot/troll" kk.
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On November 08 2015 11:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:39 Die4Ever wrote:
guys it's almost time for Linkin Park, how can you be negative at a time like this? They will probably play some new stuff
hahaha I hope not, pretty sure their old stuff was less bad
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On November 08 2015 11:41 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that. YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD! Mind quoting me where I said that? Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals.
They make good points though, imo, and don't call people idiots.
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Man I wish I was in Anaheim for this weekend. Probably some fun parties going on. Toronto gave me a taste of SC2 events and now I want more D:
So... what should I do now? I'm bored, and Linkin Park doesn't sound too fun to me
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On November 08 2015 11:42 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:41 Nebuchad wrote:On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that. YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD! Mind quoting me where I said that? Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals. "I dont undersand how anyone" vs "you're an idiot/troll" kk.
Yeah that's clearly what I meant.
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For better or worse, LOTV tournies should be big departures from HOTS and WOL. Tuck away them memories
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On November 08 2015 11:43 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 11:42 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:41 Nebuchad wrote:On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that. YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD! Mind quoting me where I said that? Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals. "I dont undersand how anyone" vs "you're an idiot/troll" kk. Yeah that's clearly what I meant.
What did you mean? I can quote people calling me an idiot lol.
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