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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12060 Posts
November 08 2015 02:39 GMT
#5421
On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:34 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:24 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:20 Diabolique wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:09 jubil wrote:
Matches can be epic for different reasons. Long macro games give you that "slow burn" epicness where both players are building up and trying to find incremental advantages; but short, back and forth games with all-ins and timing attacks are nice for the clutch starsense and micro. Like, when you know the stakes are high and the player has put everything on the line, and needs to win it all with just a handful of zerglings, that's epic too. So props to both Life and sOs, ggs, and gl in LotV!

(also, did anyone else get flashbacks to the Life/Parting GSL final where the last map was also Iron Fortress, and Life again did an early zergling rush? I wonder if sOs remembered....)

No, long macro games like the one yesterday Classic vs. herO are making people leave SC2 for other games, They are so boring. Never epic.

I'd rather watch 7 30 minute drg vs innovation, taeja vs innovation, jd vs dear, curious vs innovation, flash vs hyvaa, ryung vs flash, then the shit we just saw.


Notice any pattern emerging between the series you listed?

Like the correlation between "Terran" and "good games"?


It's almost as if people have bias Oô

Terran matchups are historically pretty good to watch.


For the people who like them. I had a 2-3 month period of my life where I had a real hard time falling asleep. The trick I found at the time was to watch TvT Bo5s.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 02:40:03
November 08 2015 02:39 GMT
#5422
On November 08 2015 11:34 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:24 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:20 Diabolique wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:09 jubil wrote:
Matches can be epic for different reasons. Long macro games give you that "slow burn" epicness where both players are building up and trying to find incremental advantages; but short, back and forth games with all-ins and timing attacks are nice for the clutch starsense and micro. Like, when you know the stakes are high and the player has put everything on the line, and needs to win it all with just a handful of zerglings, that's epic too. So props to both Life and sOs, ggs, and gl in LotV!

(also, did anyone else get flashbacks to the Life/Parting GSL final where the last map was also Iron Fortress, and Life again did an early zergling rush? I wonder if sOs remembered....)

No, long macro games like the one yesterday Classic vs. herO are making people leave SC2 for other games, They are so boring. Never epic.

I'd rather watch 7 30 minute drg vs innovation, taeja vs innovation, jd vs dear, curious vs innovation, flash vs hyvaa, ryung vs flash, then the shit we just saw.


Notice any pattern emerging between the series you listed?

Like the correlation between "Terran" and "good games"?

I again have to ask why you were expecting great macro games from a PvZ.

There have been good pvz games, and good zvz games. Freaky vs Life is top 5 best game ever played, and thats something thats a "fun" game.


Yes, and how often do games like that happen in those MUs?

Often enough for you to get your hopes up that the series will be full of them?

The series between Life and sOs?

Maybe I'm projecting, but it sounds to me like you're pussyfooting around saying that half of the MUs in Heart of the Swarm are shit. Just say that and I'll agree with you! But expecting something different from these two players in this finals is silly. They put everything on the line in every single game, they were fearless, and that made for a great show. Not a great competition, maybe, but a great show.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 08 2015 02:39 GMT
#5423
On November 08 2015 11:38 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:36 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:35 Deathstar wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:34 Snorkels wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:31 deacon.frost wrote:
I can finally go to bed. I am not that pumped anymore...

Sleep well and dream of JAGW


$O$ and Rogue watches over the realm, and all is good.

Maru is trash


you shit DRG is trash

Die
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
November 08 2015 02:39 GMT
#5424
On November 08 2015 11:38 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:37 TheDougler wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:36 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:35 stuchiu wrote:
Freaky is the only player that was ever loved for using mass infestors.

I think it's because he was on NSH as well as his game vs that protoss (ace?) that resulted in carriers.

He also only used them lol

I believe it was CranK on Entombed Valley.


Freaky's other game with mass infestor that was great also had battlecruisers in it (I forget who it was against, but it WAS a thing).

To be fair, early on Destiny was also loved for his use of mass infestor.

vs MMA? on Atlantis Spaceship


That's the one!

Man, that is some SICK memory you've got. Kudos.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
November 08 2015 02:39 GMT
#5425
On November 08 2015 11:36 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:34 negativedge wrote:
hyvaa produced a surprising amount of great macro games. when he was on point the dude was legit good. and of course he knew how to game people.

Hyvaa was the greatest cheeser of them all. He knew how to play macro, but he just prefered to cheese.

Because why win or lose in 18 minutes when you can win or lose in 8.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17624 Posts
November 08 2015 02:39 GMT
#5426
guys it's almost time for Linkin Park, how can you be negative at a time like this?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 08 2015 02:40 GMT
#5427
On November 08 2015 11:39 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:34 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:24 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:20 Diabolique wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:09 jubil wrote:
Matches can be epic for different reasons. Long macro games give you that "slow burn" epicness where both players are building up and trying to find incremental advantages; but short, back and forth games with all-ins and timing attacks are nice for the clutch starsense and micro. Like, when you know the stakes are high and the player has put everything on the line, and needs to win it all with just a handful of zerglings, that's epic too. So props to both Life and sOs, ggs, and gl in LotV!

(also, did anyone else get flashbacks to the Life/Parting GSL final where the last map was also Iron Fortress, and Life again did an early zergling rush? I wonder if sOs remembered....)

No, long macro games like the one yesterday Classic vs. herO are making people leave SC2 for other games, They are so boring. Never epic.

I'd rather watch 7 30 minute drg vs innovation, taeja vs innovation, jd vs dear, curious vs innovation, flash vs hyvaa, ryung vs flash, then the shit we just saw.


Notice any pattern emerging between the series you listed?

Like the correlation between "Terran" and "good games"?

I again have to ask why you were expecting great macro games from a PvZ.

There have been good pvz games, and good zvz games. Freaky vs Life is top 5 best game ever played, and thats something thats a "fun" game.


Yes, and how often do games like that happen in those MUs?

Often enough for you to get your hopes up that the series will be full of them?

The series between Life and sOs?

Maybe I'm projecting, but it sounds to me like you're pussyfooting around saying that half of the MUs in Heart of the Swarm are shit. Just say that and I'll agree with you! But expecting something different from these two players in this finals is silly.

I don't want to offend 80% of the people who signed up after 2014 and think what we just saw was groundbreaking
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28463 Posts
November 08 2015 02:40 GMT
#5428
On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that.


YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!

Mind quoting me where I said that?

Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really
I Protoss winner, could it be?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 08 2015 02:40 GMT
#5429
On November 08 2015 11:39 Frankenberry wrote:
Fantastic finals. A funny thought. Life won the first (as far as I remember) big tournament - an MLG vs. Flash in the finals. Would have been beautiful if he had also won the last. But sOs played fantastic. It was well deserved and the games were great to watch (even for a terran like me).

Also last time sOs won Blizzcon in 2013 the crowd didn't really cheer that much for him, since he took away the Blizzcon from Jaedong. Everyone wanted Jaedong to win. This time when he came out of that booth the crowd really cheered for him. Well deserved! Fantastic ending to HotS


Yoda did actually.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12060 Posts
November 08 2015 02:41 GMT
#5430
On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that.


YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!

Mind quoting me where I said that?

Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really


These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 08 2015 02:41 GMT
#5431
On November 08 2015 11:34 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:24 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:20 Diabolique wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:09 jubil wrote:
Matches can be epic for different reasons. Long macro games give you that "slow burn" epicness where both players are building up and trying to find incremental advantages; but short, back and forth games with all-ins and timing attacks are nice for the clutch starsense and micro. Like, when you know the stakes are high and the player has put everything on the line, and needs to win it all with just a handful of zerglings, that's epic too. So props to both Life and sOs, ggs, and gl in LotV!

(also, did anyone else get flashbacks to the Life/Parting GSL final where the last map was also Iron Fortress, and Life again did an early zergling rush? I wonder if sOs remembered....)

No, long macro games like the one yesterday Classic vs. herO are making people leave SC2 for other games, They are so boring. Never epic.

I'd rather watch 7 30 minute drg vs innovation, taeja vs innovation, jd vs dear, curious vs innovation, flash vs hyvaa, ryung vs flash, then the shit we just saw.


Notice any pattern emerging between the series you listed?

Like the correlation between "Terran" and "good games"?

I again have to ask why you were expecting great macro games from a PvZ.

There have been good pvz games, and good zvz games. Freaky vs Life is top 5 best game ever played, and thats something thats a "fun" game.

TBF Freaky vs Life was good for 2 reasons:
1) it was Freaky so it had mass infestors
2) Life accidentally researched OL drops and just rolled with it
otherwise it would've ended much sooner with Life amoving Freaky
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 08 2015 02:41 GMT
#5432
On November 08 2015 11:39 Die4Ever wrote:
guys it's almost time for Linkin Park, how can you be negative at a time like this?

Idk man, linkin park in my memory was listended to primarily by kids in a negative state of mind during puberty.

Still though...
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 08 2015 02:42 GMT
#5433
On November 08 2015 11:39 Die4Ever wrote:
guys it's almost time for Linkin Park, how can you be negative at a time like this?

They will probably play some new stuff
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 08 2015 02:42 GMT
#5434
On November 08 2015 11:41 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that.


YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!

Mind quoting me where I said that?

Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really


These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals.

"I dont undersand how anyone" vs "you're an idiot/troll" kk.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17624 Posts
November 08 2015 02:42 GMT
#5435
On November 08 2015 11:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:39 Die4Ever wrote:
guys it's almost time for Linkin Park, how can you be negative at a time like this?

They will probably play some new stuff

hahaha I hope not, pretty sure their old stuff was less bad
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28463 Posts
November 08 2015 02:42 GMT
#5436
On November 08 2015 11:41 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that.


YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!

Mind quoting me where I said that?

Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really


These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals.

They make good points though, imo, and don't call people idiots.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 08 2015 02:43 GMT
#5437
Man I wish I was in Anaheim for this weekend. Probably some fun parties going on. Toronto gave me a taste of SC2 events and now I want more D:

So... what should I do now? I'm bored, and Linkin Park doesn't sound too fun to me
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12060 Posts
November 08 2015 02:43 GMT
#5438
On November 08 2015 11:42 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:41 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that.


YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!

Mind quoting me where I said that?

Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really


These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals.

"I dont undersand how anyone" vs "you're an idiot/troll" kk.


Yeah that's clearly what I meant.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 08 2015 02:44 GMT
#5439
For better or worse, LOTV tournies should be big departures from HOTS and WOL. Tuck away them memories
rip passion
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 08 2015 02:44 GMT
#5440
On November 08 2015 11:43 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 11:42 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:41 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:40 Penev wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:36 showstealer1829 wrote:
On November 08 2015 11:34 Superbanana wrote:
Stop flooding the thread with negativity. You are obviously a very vocal minority. Just agree to disagree with everyone? Stop trying to make the point your opinion is right? Its not like you can convince people to not have fun, its too late for that.


YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!

Mind quoting me where I said that?

Indeed. I'm pretty sure it is the other way around. So weird some people can't take different opinions, it is what makes things interesting for me really


These guys came in with I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that finals. That's pretty different from I didn't enjoy that finals.

"I dont undersand how anyone" vs "you're an idiot/troll" kk.


Yeah that's clearly what I meant.

What did you mean? I can quote people calling me an idiot lol.
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