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Senseless bashing of foreigners and WCS game quality is not permitted today. Criticism is fine, but let's not repeat yesterday's mess. Games can be enjoyed without the presence of constant vitriol.
14:18 GMT (+00:00) Edit: This is your friendly reminder that whining about Protoss is an old and tired thing. Don't.
-Zealously
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 14:27 GMT
#461
On September 13 2015 23:26 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:24 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:23 Ej_ wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:22 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:22 Ej_ wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:21 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:20 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:18 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:16 Aocowns wrote:
[quote]
Disregarding zerg's plethora of gold base gimmicks, it's a great map for Lilbow's style, no?

Not really, it's not that chokey aside from the rocks.
There's enough space to defend properly tho it's really hard to pylong hunt on it

It is literally one of the most choke-filled maps in the pool right now? o_O

It doesn't matter if a map has chokes if you can avoid fighting in them o_O

so you're telling me to mutalisk basetrade like I already do on every map?
You play gasless zvt on IF
I don't think maps bear any relevance on your strategy.

that's not true I spine rush vs Terrans on Bridgehead

I do it on terraform and dash and terminal

I think Zanster will try some kind of proxy hatch cheese because Terraform is 100% impossible vs blink sentries.
What's imposible about it?

I mean the layout is so chokey
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 13 2015 14:27 GMT
#462
Come on Lilbow, close this out!!!!!!
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 13 2015 14:27 GMT
#463
On September 13 2015 23:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:26 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:24 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:23 Ej_ wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:22 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:22 Ej_ wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:21 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:20 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:18 HellHound wrote:
[quote]
Not really, it's not that chokey aside from the rocks.
There's enough space to defend properly tho it's really hard to pylong hunt on it

It is literally one of the most choke-filled maps in the pool right now? o_O

It doesn't matter if a map has chokes if you can avoid fighting in them o_O

so you're telling me to mutalisk basetrade like I already do on every map?
You play gasless zvt on IF
I don't think maps bear any relevance on your strategy.

that's not true I spine rush vs Terrans on Bridgehead

I do it on terraform and dash and terminal

I think Zanster will try some kind of proxy hatch cheese because Terraform is 100% impossible vs blink sentries.
What's imposible about it?

I mean the layout is so chokey

Agree to disagree I guess.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 14:28 GMT
#464
I'm disappointed Zanster is just accepting his fate
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 13 2015 14:28 GMT
#465
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).
gg no re thx
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 13 2015 14:29 GMT
#466
Geez, you guys are salty.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 13 2015 14:29 GMT
#467
No gold?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 13 2015 14:29 GMT
#468
(Z)Zanster 1:2 (P)Lilbow
game 4 on Terraform

Zanster top left, Lilbow bottom right
15 hatch vs 13gate on lowground
pool for Zanster, Lilbow probe scouts it
Zanster checking his nat for pylons
nexus goes down, 1 gas after that
Zanster takes 3rd hatch gasless
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
September 13 2015 14:29 GMT
#469
I am so happy to see so much tears when actually it's just that Lilbow is so much better than Zanster :D
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
September 13 2015 14:29 GMT
#470
On September 13 2015 23:27 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:26 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:21 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:20 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:18 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:16 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:15 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:12 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:11 Durnuu wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
[quote]
this has been for quite a while

what are the remaining maps ?

Terraform and Cactus Valley

3-1 Lilbow, there's no way zanster beats him on terraform i think

Terra isn't bad for zvp

Disregarding zerg's plethora of gold base gimmicks, it's a great map for Lilbow's style, no?

Not really, it's not that chokey aside from the rocks.
There's enough space to defend properly tho it's really hard to pylong hunt on it

It is literally one of the most choke-filled maps in the pool right now? o_O

It doesn't matter if a map has chokes if you can avoid fighting in them o_O

Well no shit, but you have to fight in chokes if you want to attack. and if Zanster sits back and tries to get up to broodlords then Lilbow will be the one picking where to fight and he's not gonna go to like the one zone where the zerg can get a good concave, and Zanster/zergs in general have a hard enough time defending against Lilbow aggression on maps that are far better for zerg than this one

thus i think this map is probably one of the easiest wins for Lilbow against zerg, assuming the zerg doesnt do a gold base gimmick
But lilbow will just do one or another blink stalker timing.
You don't need to attack.

If he were to do a pure blink stalker timing/all in without his standard sentry 3rd openings that would just be throwing away the natural map advantage
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 13 2015 14:29 GMT
#471
On September 13 2015 23:29 The_Templar wrote:
Geez, you guys are salty.

I'm already at 2 warnings today
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 14:30 GMT
#472
lazy probes
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 13 2015 14:30 GMT
#473
On September 13 2015 23:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:29 The_Templar wrote:
Geez, you guys are salty.

I'm already at 2 warnings today

Yes, I noticed -_-
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 13 2015 14:31 GMT
#474
On September 13 2015 23:29 Ej_ wrote:
(Z)Zanster 1:2 (P)Lilbow
game 4 on Terraform

Zanster top left, Lilbow bottom right
15 hatch vs 13gate on lowground
pool for Zanster, Lilbow probe scouts it
Zanster checking his nat for pylons
nexus goes down, 1 gas after that
Zanster takes 3rd hatch gasless

1 queen and 2 lings when pool finishes
cyber core and zealot for Lilbow, WG starts
Zanster takes a single 4:45 gas, sentry for Lilbow

stargate vs drones queens and OLs
2 more gates for Lilbow, zealot running across the map
Lilbow goes up to 4 gases

"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
September 13 2015 14:31 GMT
#475
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 13 2015 14:31 GMT
#476
On September 13 2015 23:29 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:27 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:26 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:21 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:20 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:18 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:16 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:15 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:12 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:11 Durnuu wrote:
[quote]
Terraform and Cactus Valley

3-1 Lilbow, there's no way zanster beats him on terraform i think

Terra isn't bad for zvp

Disregarding zerg's plethora of gold base gimmicks, it's a great map for Lilbow's style, no?

Not really, it's not that chokey aside from the rocks.
There's enough space to defend properly tho it's really hard to pylong hunt on it

It is literally one of the most choke-filled maps in the pool right now? o_O

It doesn't matter if a map has chokes if you can avoid fighting in them o_O

Well no shit, but you have to fight in chokes if you want to attack. and if Zanster sits back and tries to get up to broodlords then Lilbow will be the one picking where to fight and he's not gonna go to like the one zone where the zerg can get a good concave, and Zanster/zergs in general have a hard enough time defending against Lilbow aggression on maps that are far better for zerg than this one

thus i think this map is probably one of the easiest wins for Lilbow against zerg, assuming the zerg doesnt do a gold base gimmick
But lilbow will just do one or another blink stalker timing.
You don't need to attack.

If he were to do a pure blink stalker timing/all in without his standard sentry 3rd openings that would just be throwing away the natural map advantage
He seems like the kind of guy to do that.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
September 13 2015 14:31 GMT
#477
Thank God I don't post often now.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 13 2015 14:31 GMT
#478
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
September 13 2015 14:32 GMT
#479
On September 13 2015 23:31 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH

Lilbow 2 - 0 Rain : >
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
September 13 2015 14:32 GMT
#480
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D

It would be fucking hilarious if the last big HotS tournament ended on that note
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
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