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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 20 2015 09:53 GMT
#101
On August 20 2015 18:52 Sejanus wrote:
Why when terrans are ahead they suddenly pull and sacrifice half of their workers to get behind?

Because lategame PvT is favored for Protoss. Unless you get lucky EMPs and Protoss screws up and clumps Templars.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 09:53 GMT
#102
On August 20 2015 18:52 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT ZEST

more like wtf TY

Yeah, "i am being force fielded, lol Zest what you doing you so silly"
1minute later
"What you have storm"
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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 20 2015 09:53 GMT
#103
On August 20 2015 18:52 Sejanus wrote:
Why when terrans are ahead they suddenly pull and sacrifice half of their workers to get behind? Where does that urge come from? Maybe teamhouse psychologist could help with it?

Without Storm, Zest is dead. TY probably thought Zest would not have storm in time
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 20 2015 09:53 GMT
#104
On August 20 2015 18:52 Sejanus wrote:
Why when terrans are ahead they suddenly pull and sacrifice half of their workers to get behind? Where does that urge come from? Maybe teamhouse psychologist could help with it?


because they dont want to play lategame tvp.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
August 20 2015 09:53 GMT
#105
I don't know why terrans do this when they are so ahead, Byun missed out on a GSL final because this kind of stupid pull
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 20 2015 09:54 GMT
#106
Observer speed <3
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
August 20 2015 09:54 GMT
#107
On August 20 2015 18:53 coloursheep wrote:
I don't know why terrans do this when they are so ahead, Byun missed out on a GSL final because this kind of stupid pull

Terrans very rarely win lategame vs toss.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 09:54 GMT
#108
On August 20 2015 18:53 coloursheep wrote:
I don't know why terrans do this when they are so ahead, Byun missed out on a GSL final because this kind of stupid pull

Whilst i personally agree with i hate SCV pulls, TY won that game with it, he just sat and waited behind force fields instead of going around them and asking himself "why is Zest force fielding me"
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 20 2015 09:55 GMT
#109
On August 20 2015 18:53 graNite wrote:
i dont get why it is ok for feedback to do damage. it burns all mana already, isnt that hard enough? one ht killing an entire medivac with one cheap spell seems too good

Mobility issues of Protoss army in the lategame. Protoss doesn't have Turrets, which are better at denying drops than cannons.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 20 2015 09:55 GMT
#110
Random missile turret
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2015 09:55 GMT
#111
TY just getting outplayed now
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 09:55 GMT
#112
On August 20 2015 18:52 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 18:48 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 18:45 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 18:42 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(T)TY vs (P)Zest
0-0

Map: Vaani Research Station

TY spawns in the bottom
Zest spawns in the top

2:00
Gateway/gas vs barracks/gas.

3:00
Reaper for TY.
Zealot and cybernetics core for Zest. Zealot is cancelled.
Mothership core is built while Zest expands.
TY keeps the reaper at home.

4:00
Third CC before factory for TY.
Reactor finished on TY's barracks, and he is getting two marines as well as another barracks.

5:00
Reaper gets into Zest's main base and sees a robotics facility.
Engineering bay followed by a factory for TY.
Observer for Zest.

6:00
Warp prism + robotics bay for Zest.
TY finally starts stim. He's getting a few more marines as well.

7:00
Starport begins for TY.
Colossus + extended thermal lance for Zest.
TY is adding a marauder to his army now.
Two vikings being made.

8:00 (T)TY 70 vs (P)Zest 63
Colossus is rallied to the warp prism. When it finishes extended thermal lance is only 1/2 done.
Five more gateways for Zest.
TY moves out.
Stalkers kill a marine mid-map.
Two vikings intercept the warp prism, but the colossus still lands.
Two SCVs die before the vikings finish the job.
TY retreats with his army.

10:45 (T)TY 101 vs (P)Zest 87
Third nexus + forge + another colossus for Zest.
TY going for a drop.
Zest is moving closer to TY's base when the drop lands in his natural.
Twilight council and more colossi for Zest.

12:00 (T)TY 118 vs (P)Zest 108
Blink and +1 armor for Zest.
TY getting a ghost academy.
Zest starts a templar archives.
+1 armor is finishing for TY.

13:00 (T)TY 150 vs (P)Zest 127
Immortal for Zest, who is getting charge and storm.
High templars are getting warped in while the first ghosts finish.
TY pulls SCVs.

14:00 (T)TY 177 vs (P)Zest 146
Zest is on three colossi against about ten vikings.
Zest force fields out the SCVs for a while, but an EMP allows TY to push through.
TY attacks and loses tons of units to storms.
TY retreats, retaining about 36 workers against sixty.

17:00 (T)TY 141 vs (P)Zest 178
Both players have stabilized on three bases.
TY is trying to get +2/2 so it seems unlikely he'll SCV pull a second time.
Zest is on one colossus but is getting another. He has a number of templars and archons.

18:00 (T)TY 161 vs (P)Zest 195
Zest sends out hallucinated phoenixes.
+1 mech weapons for TY as well.
Zest moves towards the middle of the map but retreats once scanned.
+2/1 is being researched by Zest.

19:00 (T)TY 185 vs (P)Zest 195
Zest has finished his fourth base and is mining from it.
Both players are maneuvering in the center of the map, but Zest gets a good storm off on the medivacs and a few units.
Zest cancels TY's fourth.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 20 2015 09:56 GMT
#113
while the engagement was terrible (no splitting etc) I still don't like gameplay mechanics that just prevent the other person from moving or engaging, . Being so far ahead then suddenly so far behind...
But I guess something similar would have happened if any other race tries to bop its head through a narrow tunnel where the opponents army is waiting
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 20 2015 09:56 GMT
#114
On August 20 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Observer speed <3

Have you noticed that low amount of Terrans notices that they have an observer over their army rallied to a medevac? And with observer speed it can follow the army until the medevac goes turbo Love this "map hack"
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 20 2015 09:57 GMT
#115
Zest is just building that super army to destroy the T army without loosing supply
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
August 20 2015 09:57 GMT
#116
Zest is going full Rain
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 09:57 GMT
#117
On August 20 2015 18:56 Rollora wrote:
while the engagement was terrible (no splitting etc) I still don't like gameplay mechanics that just prevent the other person from moving or engaging, . Being so far ahead then suddenly so far behind...
But I guess something similar would have happened if any other race tries to bop its head through a narrow tunnel where the opponents army is waiting

He force fielded the 1 side, there was a huge rock to his right which you can walk around or split the push into he couldn't force field the whole entry to Zest army. Was just TY thinking he knew he had won because he was being force fielded out. Not thinking why is he force fielding him out. He even had Ghosts and didn't even lead with EMPs TT
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 20 2015 09:58 GMT
#118
EMP'ing his own medivacs so they don't get oneshot by feedback, pretty smart
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 20 2015 09:58 GMT
#119
On August 20 2015 18:58 Durnuu wrote:
EMP'ing his own medivacs so they don't get oneshot by feedback, pretty smart


Haha yeah I love seeing little things like that.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 09:59 GMT
#120
On August 20 2015 18:55 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 18:52 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 18:48 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 18:45 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 18:42 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(T)TY vs (P)Zest
0-0

Map: Vaani Research Station

TY spawns in the bottom
Zest spawns in the top

2:00
Gateway/gas vs barracks/gas.

3:00
Reaper for TY.
Zealot and cybernetics core for Zest. Zealot is cancelled.
Mothership core is built while Zest expands.
TY keeps the reaper at home.

4:00
Third CC before factory for TY.
Reactor finished on TY's barracks, and he is getting two marines as well as another barracks.

5:00
Reaper gets into Zest's main base and sees a robotics facility.
Engineering bay followed by a factory for TY.
Observer for Zest.

6:00
Warp prism + robotics bay for Zest.
TY finally starts stim. He's getting a few more marines as well.

7:00
Starport begins for TY.
Colossus + extended thermal lance for Zest.
TY is adding a marauder to his army now.
Two vikings being made.

8:00 (T)TY 70 vs (P)Zest 63
Colossus is rallied to the warp prism. When it finishes extended thermal lance is only 1/2 done.
Five more gateways for Zest.
TY moves out.
Stalkers kill a marine mid-map.
Two vikings intercept the warp prism, but the colossus still lands.
Two SCVs die before the vikings finish the job.
TY retreats with his army.

10:45 (T)TY 101 vs (P)Zest 87
Third nexus + forge + another colossus for Zest.
TY going for a drop.
Zest is moving closer to TY's base when the drop lands in his natural.
Twilight council and more colossi for Zest.

12:00 (T)TY 118 vs (P)Zest 108
Blink and +1 armor for Zest.
TY getting a ghost academy.
Zest starts a templar archives.
+1 armor is finishing for TY.

13:00 (T)TY 150 vs (P)Zest 127
Immortal for Zest, who is getting charge and storm.
High templars are getting warped in while the first ghosts finish.
TY pulls SCVs.

14:00 (T)TY 177 vs (P)Zest 146
Zest is on three colossi against about ten vikings.
Zest force fields out the SCVs for a while, but an EMP allows TY to push through.
TY attacks and loses tons of units to storms.
TY retreats, retaining about 36 workers against sixty.

17:00 (T)TY 141 vs (P)Zest 178
Both players have stabilized on three bases.
TY is trying to get +2/2 so it seems unlikely he'll SCV pull a second time.
Zest is on one colossus but is getting another. He has a number of templars and archons.

18:00 (T)TY 161 vs (P)Zest 195
Zest sends out hallucinated phoenixes.
+1 mech weapons for TY as well.
Zest moves towards the middle of the map but retreats once scanned.
+2/1 is being researched by Zest.

19:00 (T)TY 185 vs (P)Zest 195
Zest has finished his fourth base and is mining from it.
Both players are maneuvering in the center of the map, but Zest gets a good storm off on the medivacs and a few units.
Zest cancels TY's fourth.

21:00 (T)TY 191 vs (P)Zest 197
Dark shrine and six more gateways for Zest.
Zest is also getting +3/2.
Some zealots move towards TY's third as a distraction but retreat into the terran army.

22:00 (T)TY 200 (900/600) vs (P)Zest 193 (2200/700)
Zest moves around with DTs, trying to kill a few stray units.
TY lands his fourth command center.
+3/3 is half done for TY. Zest is finishing +2 attack, has finished +3 armor, and is getting +1 shields.
TY getting another factory.
Not much has happened in the way of battles, though.

24:00 (T)TY 199 (700/1000) vs (P)Zest 190 (2600/1100)
TY drops the fourth base, killing a few probes before a defensive storm happens.
TY getting a nuke!
A drop is also heading towards the natural, but Zest starts a gold and a few marines are dropped there.

25:00 (T)TY 200 (1500/1500) vs (P)Zest 191 (2400/1600)
A nuke near TY's base scares Zest off.
TY gets 16 probe kills in the natural/4th and starts killing buildings in the main.
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