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[SPL] SBENU vs Jin Air Round 4 2015 - Page 7

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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 10 2015 10:42 GMT
#121
Bomber is ded
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 10 2015 10:42 GMT
#122
there was not a single point in the game where bomber could have punished this build. and after the third nexus got up, he was too behind...

someone enlighten me pls
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
August 10 2015 10:43 GMT
#123
That was a terrible push
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 10 2015 10:43 GMT
#124
wolf getting a little aggressive with bomber lol. calm down wolf

WHAZZEE GONNA DO HUH? HUH?
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SBGamer
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany115 Posts
August 10 2015 10:44 GMT
#125
On August 10 2015 19:42 graNite wrote:
there was not a single point in the game where bomber could have punished this build. and after the third nexus got up, he was too behind...

someone enlighten me pls


Bomber's macro was a problem. He had several supply blocks. Also his build is not really good to counter an early 3rd nexus. He should have gone for a 3 rax build
Bomber is love, Maru is life.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 10 2015 10:44 GMT
#126
Poll: Recommend Bomber vs Trap?

bad game (9)
 
64%

meh game (4)
 
29%

good game (1)
 
7%

Excellent game. (0)
 
0%

Fantastic game! (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs Trap?

(Vote): bad game
(Vote): meh game
(Vote): good game
(Vote): Excellent game.
(Vote): Fantastic game!

"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
August 10 2015 10:44 GMT
#127
On August 10 2015 19:43 brickrd wrote:
wolf getting a little aggressive with bomber lol. calm down wolf

WHAZZEE GONNA DO HUH? HUH?


I feel like Bomber deserves it though.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 10 2015 10:45 GMT
#128
On August 10 2015 19:44 SBGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 19:42 graNite wrote:
there was not a single point in the game where bomber could have punished this build. and after the third nexus got up, he was too behind...

someone enlighten me pls


Bomber's macro was a problem. He had several supply blocks. Also his build is not really good to counter an early 3rd nexus. He should have gone for a 3 rax build


so it was a buildorder win? why didnt he adjust after scouting?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 10 2015 10:45 GMT
#129
Poor Bomber..crushed
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 10 2015 10:46 GMT
#130
On August 10 2015 19:42 graNite wrote:
there was not a single point in the game where bomber could have punished this build. and after the third nexus got up, he was too behind...

someone enlighten me pls

terran UP
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-10 10:47:49
August 10 2015 10:46 GMT
#131
On August 10 2015 19:45 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 19:44 SBGamer wrote:
On August 10 2015 19:42 graNite wrote:
there was not a single point in the game where bomber could have punished this build. and after the third nexus got up, he was too behind...

someone enlighten me pls


Bomber's macro was a problem. He had several supply blocks. Also his build is not really good to counter an early 3rd nexus. He should have gone for a 3 rax build


so it was a buildorder win? why didnt he adjust after scouting?


It wasn't a blind BO win, Trap scouted the build with his probe scout, then just adjusted perfectly. Bomber has no way to pressure the third nexus for a long long time after the factory opening because of how late stim is

These protoss players have died to mine or hellion builds for so long, now they have them figured out. That's why you see terrans trying 3CC or rax opening builds more often recently.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-10 10:47:04
August 10 2015 10:46 GMT
#132
EJ either stick with all lower case or all upper case. Mixing in both in the recommend games polls is really throwing me off :////
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 10 2015 10:47 GMT
#133
On August 10 2015 19:46 Seeker wrote:
EJ either stick with all lower case or all upper case. Mixing in both in the recommend games polls is really throwing me off :////

now you gave me a reason to mix them
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
SBGamer
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-10 10:48:41
August 10 2015 10:48 GMT
#134
On August 10 2015 19:45 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 19:44 SBGamer wrote:
On August 10 2015 19:42 graNite wrote:
there was not a single point in the game where bomber could have punished this build. and after the third nexus got up, he was too behind...

someone enlighten me pls


Bomber's macro was a problem. He had several supply blocks. Also his build is not really good to counter an early 3rd nexus. He should have gone for a 3 rax build


so it was a buildorder win? why didnt he adjust after scouting?


Kind of a build order win. Bomber did the most aggressive transition (5 Rax before 3rd CC) and still couldnt do shit because 1-1-1 builds have late production and late upgrades. Such builds get more and more figured out and countered by moves like early 3rd nexus. I think the old 3 rax builds are the way to go now
Bomber is love, Maru is life.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 10 2015 10:49 GMT
#135
On August 10 2015 19:46 Seeker wrote:
EJ either stick with all lower case or all upper case. Mixing in both in the recommend games polls is really throwing me off :////


why is there still no button to create the standard polls? so that you dont have to type every time...
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
August 10 2015 10:49 GMT
#136
Curious theme
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
x0x0
Profile Joined August 2015
149 Posts
August 10 2015 10:49 GMT
#137
On August 10 2015 19:37 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 19:34 x0x0 wrote:
On August 10 2015 19:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 10 2015 19:25 Topdoller wrote:
man i feel sorry for Jjakji, by far the better player in this game imho. Protoss late game...urrggg


That's just not a fair thing to say about this game at all. sOs was always finding ways to damage Jjakji's economy while building a stronger army. He was the better player this game, even though his engagements were shaky.

He was the better player cause he won the game and that's it.Jjakji was the worst player cause he didn't build a turret near his ramp and near that sensor tower.
This is the best game for a case study on how to lose a game when you're the dominant player.Sometimes, I think the pro players are way to confident in their skills and don't follow a logic thought : How can i lose this game, considering i'm doint better than my opponent?


lets say storms do 100x damage. jjakjji is ahead up until storm, then loses. with your logic, it was his fault he didnt consider storms to be able to beat him.

a theory is not really good when it is not possible to falsify. couldnt it be possible that tvp lategame is imbalanced? if you dont give me a way to prove that, your point is invalid.

yet again another "wine" about imbalance....MECH vs zerg is imba...lategame tvp is imba......everything is imba on this game... don't look for the root cause just point to the easiest ideea: imbalance.
What if Jjakji had better control with his army, what if he had 1 turret near that sensor tower and his ramp...would you agree he would have hade so much better chances at winning?....Small thing like this can determine the outcome of a game played by 2 similar skilled players(just for today...i think sOs overall is more skilled that Jjakji ) not IMBALANCE
ZYCSMDYF
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 10 2015 10:50 GMT
#138
This is Rogue's first really bad music pick. I am disappointed in you, Rogue. You went from the One Piece theme to this...
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 10 2015 10:51 GMT
#139
Oh hey Wolf has ZvZ figured out
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 10 2015 10:51 GMT
#140
On August 10 2015 19:49 x0x0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 19:37 graNite wrote:
On August 10 2015 19:34 x0x0 wrote:
On August 10 2015 19:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 10 2015 19:25 Topdoller wrote:
man i feel sorry for Jjakji, by far the better player in this game imho. Protoss late game...urrggg


That's just not a fair thing to say about this game at all. sOs was always finding ways to damage Jjakji's economy while building a stronger army. He was the better player this game, even though his engagements were shaky.

He was the better player cause he won the game and that's it.Jjakji was the worst player cause he didn't build a turret near his ramp and near that sensor tower.
This is the best game for a case study on how to lose a game when you're the dominant player.Sometimes, I think the pro players are way to confident in their skills and don't follow a logic thought : How can i lose this game, considering i'm doint better than my opponent?


lets say storms do 100x damage. jjakjji is ahead up until storm, then loses. with your logic, it was his fault he didnt consider storms to be able to beat him.

a theory is not really good when it is not possible to falsify. couldnt it be possible that tvp lategame is imbalanced? if you dont give me a way to prove that, your point is invalid.

yet again another "wine" about imbalance....MECH vs zerg is imba...lategame tvp is imba......everything is imba on this game... don't look for the root cause just point to the easiest ideea: imbalance.
What if Jjakji had better control with his army, what if he had 1 turret near that sensor tower and his ramp...would you agree he would have hade so much better chances at winning?....Small thing like this can determine the outcome of a game played by 2 similar skilled players(just for today...i think sOs overall is more skilled that Jjakji ) not IMBALANCE


you miss the point here. with your logic, there can not be imbalances ever. however, it is most probable that there are small imbalances all over the game. if we make zealots for free and quintuple their damage and terrans then post about this, you would still hate these posts...
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
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