EPT[Code S] Ro8 Day 2 Season 2 2015 - Page 18
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Roadog
Canada1670 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:01 Blardy wrote: 2015 and players are still so greedy with not getting static defense. Rain got a decent amount one of the games, game 2 i think, but maru over and over did not get missle turrets. He would prefer to lose 4+ scvs and sometimes buildings because he wouldnt spend 100-300 minerals. MVP had the same problem vs MMA that he wouldnt build missle turrets. I just don't understand pro gamers logic. I think Rain, being Rain, had a Cannon triangle in his natural early in Game 1. Also to support his Phoenix-Colossus build he had Cannons in his third early. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:01 Blardy wrote: 2015 and players are still so greedy with not getting static defense. Rain got a decent amount one of the games, game 2 i think, but maru over and over did not get missle turrets. He would prefer to lose 4+ scvs and sometimes buildings because he wouldnt spend 100-300 minerals. MVP had the same problem vs MMA that he wouldnt build missle turrets. I just don't understand pro gamers logic. Cause it doesn't stop the other guy from doing damage unless it's a shiton of turrets. if your answer to an oracle is shitton of turrets, you die to a 2011 4 gate follow up. Blind counters and all. Or they just macro and kill you later. Games between pros are often decided by extremely small factors. | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
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dazed25
3566 Posts
meh last two games were sloppy but he was flawless in the first two. that first game was fantastic. that was basically the blueprint to beat maru's style. myungsik laid it out and rain improved on it. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:03 KingofdaHipHop wrote: hahaha the salt in this thread I love when terrans lose. (cept Dream go Dream) | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18625 Posts
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:04 HellHound wrote: I love when terrans lose. (cept Dream go Dream) when maru won the 3rd game (Rain lost it by doing that half hearted push) there were a bunch of protoss haters popping up too. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:05 sharkie wrote: With this result the Top4 of WCS rankings are ALL OUT OF S2SL and GSL they should probably learn how to play this game then | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:05 sharkie wrote: With this result the Top4 of WCS rankings are ALL OUT OF S2SL and GSL This season they're trying to play in GSL and Starleague at least. :> | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3487 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:01 sertas wrote: i stop watch sc2 for a couple months, comes back and sees terran lose to protoss allin. As usual. cu in a couple of months  | ||
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:01 Blardy wrote: 2015 and players are still so greedy with not getting static defense. Rain got a decent amount one of the games, game 2 i think, but maru over and over did not get missle turrets. He would prefer to lose 4+ scvs and sometimes buildings because he wouldnt spend 100-300 minerals. MVP had the same problem vs MMA that he wouldnt build missle turrets. I just don't understand pro gamers logic. Becuase by the time you spend 300 minerals on Turrets - You could had made 2 barracks - Those could produce Marines faster - Marines are good for attacking - Terran are an offensive race - You need barracks to produce marines. - You need Marines to be offensive See the logic Im trying to transmit? If you are playing scared as Terran you will come far behind in so many games if you are playing even opponents. Unless you are Taeja. But Maru is not Taeja. He is the MarinePrince. MarinePrinces needs.. Marines? That is my red thread here. I guess there is a reason Terrans dont Spam static defenses early game. A hint: Might have to do with terrans strenght as a race is offensive, constant attacking with cheap units. Like marines. You need baracks for... and so on | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:05 sharkie wrote: With this result the Top4 of WCS rankings are ALL OUT OF S2SL and GSL 5th place is still in SSL, at least. | ||
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JCoto
Spain574 Posts
Maru has played extremely sloppy today, going blind and many fails in various games. | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:01 Blardy wrote: 2015 and players are still so greedy with not getting static defense. Rain got a decent amount one of the games, game 2 i think, but maru over and over did not get missle turrets. He would prefer to lose 4+ scvs and sometimes buildings because he wouldnt spend 100-300 minerals. MVP had the same problem vs MMA that he wouldnt build missle turrets. I just don't understand pro gamers logic. It's very hard for terrans to get good static defense for the lategame since protoss can adapt how much they commit to harass on the fly (thanks to warpins). So if you leave a lot of defense at home then protoss can just ignore harass and go kill you. Missile turrets are ok to section off parts of your base but a good protoss player like Rain will find any weak spot you leave open. So basically you'll have to get a lot of turrets, at which point it becomes too expensive. Solution is to play like Maru did game 1, stay offensive and don't let your protoss get comfortable enough to harass. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:04 Elentos wrote: Flash and Fantasy better at defending Protoss bullshit than Maru according to Rain. Well Flash is known for defensive macro play. Maru is a player that brings aggression | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
On June 12 2015 20:08 DJHelium wrote: It's very hard for terrans to get good static defense for the lategame since protoss can adapt how much they commit to harass on the fly (thanks to warpins). So if you leave a lot of defense at home then protoss can just ignore harass and go kill you. Missile turrets are ok to section off parts of your base but a good protoss player like Rain will find any weak spot you leave open. So basically you'll have to get a lot of turrets, at which point it becomes too expensive. Solution is to play like Maru did game 1, stay offensive and don't let your protoss get comfortable enough to harass. Well this was the polite way to explain my thoughts above. | ||
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