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Jinchu
Profile Joined April 2015
89 Posts
June 02 2015 14:09 GMT
#461
On June 02 2015 23:05 Ej_ wrote:
oh just for notice: I'd like to see anyone play SH without dying vs a normal +2 blink build, herO's build was weird to begin with and he didn't pressure when you normally would

Like with any build, going for it blindly would be foolhardy. It's like Avilo trying to prove a build involving mine-drops was bad because he went for the mine drops despite scouting robo opener.

This strat definitely has got its place in mid-late game. Especially to deny far off bases. Where and when depends on how the game is playing out.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
June 02 2015 14:09 GMT
#462
One victory does not mean they will be used in every match. There is still so many timings that will simply kill you if you go for them. Their strength is in that no one knows how to really play against them. Rogue used a really cool snipe build today.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 02 2015 14:09 GMT
#463
You need more than one game to say "SH are totally viable". It isn't that simple and it obviously depends on what the protoss player is doing and on the map.

That game was awesome and Rogue made a great read on what hero was going to do. Then he used incredible multitasking to out play hero.

it was a sick game but you can't just look at that game and make a boolean statement on SH right now.
Zerg for Life
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
June 02 2015 14:09 GMT
#464
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 02 2015 14:10 GMT
#465
On June 02 2015 23:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with...

it's Cactus Valley. CC first into hoping it's close spawns IMHO
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
June 02 2015 14:10 GMT
#466
On June 02 2015 23:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with...

I have a feeling it´s gonna be a quick all-in also.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
June 02 2015 14:11 GMT
#467
On June 02 2015 23:09 KelsierSC wrote:
You need more than one game to say "SH are totally viable". It isn't that simple and it obviously depends on what the protoss player is doing and on the map.

That game was awesome and Rogue made a great read on what hero was going to do. Then he used incredible multitasking to out play hero.

it was a sick game but you can't just look at that game and make a boolean statement on SH right now.



I agree, except it was no "great read", it was his strategy of choice since the begining and he probably spend his whole week-end working on it...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 02 2015 14:12 GMT
#468
On June 02 2015 23:11 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:09 KelsierSC wrote:
You need more than one game to say "SH are totally viable". It isn't that simple and it obviously depends on what the protoss player is doing and on the map.

That game was awesome and Rogue made a great read on what hero was going to do. Then he used incredible multitasking to out play hero.

it was a sick game but you can't just look at that game and make a boolean statement on SH right now.



I agree, except it was no "great read", it was his strategy of choice since the begining and he probably spend his whole week-end working on it...


right...maybe i'm just crazy but he probably did some research on hero before the game though.

Zerg for Life
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 02 2015 14:12 GMT
#469
On June 02 2015 23:10 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with...

it's Cactus Valley. CC first into hoping it's close spawns IMHO

Probably. Maybe rax quick expand into hoping it's close spawns and ByuL doesn't somehow find a gold base on Cactus Valley.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 02 2015 14:12 GMT
#470
On June 02 2015 23:06 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:06 showstealer1829 wrote:
On June 02 2015 23:04 Seeker wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHY IS MARU THE ACE?! WHY?!?!?!?

ROOOOOOGGGGGGUUUUUUEEEEEEE!!!!


Everyone can only get so erect. It's better this way

Who becomes erect for ZvZ?

Freaky vs life is a top 5 all time best game
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
June 02 2015 14:13 GMT
#471
On June 02 2015 23:10 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with...

it's Cactus Valley. CC first into hoping it's close spawns IMHO


he was proxying on frost, he can proxy on cactus
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 02 2015 14:13 GMT
#472
On June 02 2015 23:12 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:06 royalroadweed wrote:
On June 02 2015 23:06 showstealer1829 wrote:
On June 02 2015 23:04 Seeker wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHY IS MARU THE ACE?! WHY?!?!?!?

ROOOOOOGGGGGGUUUUUUEEEEEEE!!!!


Everyone can only get so erect. It's better this way

Who becomes erect for ZvZ?

Freaky vs life is a top 5 all time best game

I love how part of this game was Life accidentally researching ventral sacs and just going with it.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 02 2015 14:13 GMT
#473
On June 02 2015 23:09 Jinchu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:05 Ej_ wrote:
oh just for notice: I'd like to see anyone play SH without dying vs a normal +2 blink build, herO's build was weird to begin with and he didn't pressure when you normally would

Like with any build, going for it blindly would be foolhardy. It's like Avilo trying to prove a build involving mine-drops was bad because he went for the mine drops despite scouting robo opener.

This strat definitely has got its place in mid-late game. Especially to deny far off bases. Where and when depends on how the game is playing out.


good reliable builds are effective even if your opponent knows before-hand. And a mine drop is definitely decent vs robo openings.
Zest fanboy.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 02 2015 14:13 GMT
#474
double ace match today is pretty crazy though
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 02 2015 14:14 GMT
#475
map is slightly better for zerg apparently, not a huge volume of games though.
Zerg for Life
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 14:16:27
June 02 2015 14:14 GMT
#476
So, it's cool to finally see it in a Korean pro game, but we saw this style a lot already right after the patch. It was quickly dismissed, since you can't survive on most maps if you invest in a 5 SH hitsquad. They can't help you defend with only 1 attack per minute. Still an excellent snipe build for this specific map, wp Rogue!

But please don't believe this is new, or even some new meta .

Did people already forget all those gifs on reddit from enraged Protoss players getting their Nexi sniped?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 02 2015 14:15 GMT
#477
On June 02 2015 23:13 c0ldfusion wrote:
double ace match today is pretty crazy though

It's top 4 teams playing each other, expected the series to be close tbh.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 02 2015 14:15 GMT
#478
On June 02 2015 23:14 KelsierSC wrote:
map is slightly better for zerg apparently, not a huge volume of games though.

I think it's a free win for Zerg on cross and considerably hard for Zerg in close spawns.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 02 2015 14:16 GMT
#479
BYUL IS NOW FIGHTING FOR THE FOREIGNERS
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 02 2015 14:16 GMT
#480
On June 02 2015 23:09 RaFox17 wrote:
One victory does not mean they will be used in every match. There is still so many timings that will simply kill you if you go for them. Their strength is in that no one knows how to really play against them. Rogue used a really cool snipe build today.

Which is great, I love builds like this that we don't see often because they work only on certain maps against certain strategies.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
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