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On June 02 2015 23:05 Ej_ wrote:
oh just for notice: I'd like to see anyone play SH without dying vs a normal +2 blink build, herO's build was weird to begin with and he didn't pressure when you normally would
Like with any build, going for it blindly would be foolhardy. It's like Avilo trying to prove a build involving mine-drops was bad because he went for the mine drops despite scouting robo opener.
This strat definitely has got its place in mid-late game. Especially to deny far off bases. Where and when depends on how the game is playing out.
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One victory does not mean they will be used in every match. There is still so many timings that will simply kill you if you go for them. Their strength is in that no one knows how to really play against them. Rogue used a really cool snipe build today.
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You need more than one game to say "SH are totally viable". It isn't that simple and it obviously depends on what the protoss player is doing and on the map.
That game was awesome and Rogue made a great read on what hero was going to do. Then he used incredible multitasking to out play hero.
it was a sick game but you can't just look at that game and make a boolean statement on SH right now.
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incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with...
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On June 02 2015 23:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with...
it's Cactus Valley. CC first into hoping it's close spawns IMHO
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On June 02 2015 23:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with...
I have a feeling it´s gonna be a quick all-in also.
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On June 02 2015 23:09 KelsierSC wrote:
You need more than one game to say "SH are totally viable". It isn't that simple and it obviously depends on what the protoss player is doing and on the map.
That game was awesome and Rogue made a great read on what hero was going to do. Then he used incredible multitasking to out play hero.
it was a sick game but you can't just look at that game and make a boolean statement on SH right now.
I agree, except it was no "great read", it was his strategy of choice since the begining and he probably spend his whole week-end working on it...
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On June 02 2015 23:11 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 23:09 KelsierSC wrote:
You need more than one game to say "SH are totally viable". It isn't that simple and it obviously depends on what the protoss player is doing and on the map.
That game was awesome and Rogue made a great read on what hero was going to do. Then he used incredible multitasking to out play hero.
it was a sick game but you can't just look at that game and make a boolean statement on SH right now. I agree, except it was no "great read", it was his strategy of choice since the begining and he probably spend his whole week-end working on it...
right...maybe i'm just crazy but he probably did some research on hero before the game though.
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On June 02 2015 23:10 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 23:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with... it's Cactus Valley. CC first into hoping it's close spawns IMHO
Probably. Maybe rax quick expand into hoping it's close spawns and ByuL doesn't somehow find a gold base on Cactus Valley.
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On June 02 2015 23:06 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 23:06 showstealer1829 wrote:On June 02 2015 23:04 Seeker wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHY IS MARU THE ACE?! WHY?!?!?!?
ROOOOOOGGGGGGUUUUUUEEEEEEE!!!! Everyone can only get so erect. It's better this way Who becomes erect for ZvZ?
Freaky vs life is a top 5 all time best game
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On June 02 2015 23:10 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 23:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
incoming 11/11 rax, the only strat Maru can hope winning with... it's Cactus Valley. CC first into hoping it's close spawns IMHO
he was proxying on frost, he can proxy on cactus 
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On June 02 2015 23:12 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 23:06 royalroadweed wrote:On June 02 2015 23:06 showstealer1829 wrote:On June 02 2015 23:04 Seeker wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHY IS MARU THE ACE?! WHY?!?!?!?
ROOOOOOGGGGGGUUUUUUEEEEEEE!!!! Everyone can only get so erect. It's better this way Who becomes erect for ZvZ? Freaky vs life is a top 5 all time best game
I love how part of this game was Life accidentally researching ventral sacs and just going with it.
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On June 02 2015 23:09 Jinchu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 23:05 Ej_ wrote:
oh just for notice: I'd like to see anyone play SH without dying vs a normal +2 blink build, herO's build was weird to begin with and he didn't pressure when you normally would Like with any build, going for it blindly would be foolhardy. It's like Avilo trying to prove a build involving mine-drops was bad because he went for the mine drops despite scouting robo opener. This strat definitely has got its place in mid-late game. Especially to deny far off bases. Where and when depends on how the game is playing out.
good reliable builds are effective even if your opponent knows before-hand. And a mine drop is definitely decent vs robo openings.
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double ace match today is pretty crazy though
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map is slightly better for zerg apparently, not a huge volume of games though.
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So, it's cool to finally see it in a Korean pro game, but we saw this style a lot already right after the patch. It was quickly dismissed, since you can't survive on most maps if you invest in a 5 SH hitsquad. They can't help you defend with only 1 attack per minute. Still an excellent snipe build for this specific map, wp Rogue!
But please don't believe this is new, or even some new meta  .
Did people already forget all those gifs on reddit from enraged Protoss players getting their Nexi sniped?
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On June 02 2015 23:13 c0ldfusion wrote:
double ace match today is pretty crazy though
It's top 4 teams playing each other, expected the series to be close tbh.
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On June 02 2015 23:14 KelsierSC wrote:
map is slightly better for zerg apparently, not a huge volume of games though.
I think it's a free win for Zerg on cross and considerably hard for Zerg in close spawns.
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BYUL IS NOW FIGHTING FOR THE FOREIGNERS
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On June 02 2015 23:09 RaFox17 wrote:
One victory does not mean they will be used in every match. There is still so many timings that will simply kill you if you go for them. Their strength is in that no one knows how to really play against them. Rogue used a really cool snipe build today.
Which is great, I love builds like this that we don't see often because they work only on certain maps against certain strategies.
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