MaNa vs iaguz Game 1 MaNa vs iaguz Game 2 MaNa vs iaguz Game 3 MaSa vs FireCake Game 1 MaSa vs FireCake Game 2 MaSa vs FireCake Game 3 Losers Match Game 1 Losers Match Game 2 Losers Match Game 3 Winners Match Game 1 Winners Match Game 2 Winners Match Game 3 Final Match Game 1 Final Match Game 2 Final Match Game 3
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
45%
★★★- Good game (4)
36%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs iaguz Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MaNa vs iaguz Game 2?
★★★- Good game (7)
70%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs iaguz Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MaNa vs iaguz Game 3?
★★★- Good game (5)
56%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
22%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs iaguz Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
60%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 2?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
100%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 3?
★★★- Good game (1)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
50%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
★★★- Good game (4)
67%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
★★★- Good game (5)
71%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 2?
★★★- Good game (5)
83%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 3?
★★★- Good game (4)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
38%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
13%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
★★★- Good game (3)
100%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★★★- Good game (1)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
50%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
In S3 of 2014, Scarlett and Huk made Ro8 in Premier, in S1 of 2015, Kane made it to Ro8. Now, let's see if Masa can do it too and keep Canada from falling into irrelevancy
3 Groups without Koreans, and all 3 include 1 of 3 SEA players and 1 of 3 real NA players =P These groups are perfect for these regions, I would be surprised if petraeus would be the only SEA / NA player in ro16
Dang. That attack by Mana with somewhere around 8 zealots and 2 DTs at home, made him lose 3 colossi because he didn't have enough to buffer. Close game.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
45%
★★★- Good game (4)
36%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs iaguz Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On May 31 2015 01:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Yaaay, imbarauders....
Come on mate, Mana took terrible fights with a slightly smaller army. That's not supposed to work.
Nothing will stop my hate for terran scum-race.
But yeah, the colossi derped hard there, Mana control wasn't so crisp as usual. Hope he warmed up.
Also, wtf twitch is lagging now out of nowhere.
So you think P should win if they engage in such a fashion with a smaller army? I mean, that's usually how it goes when storm is out, but storm wasn't out. Might as well give zealots 300 hp.
On May 31 2015 01:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Yaaay, imbarauders....
Come on mate, Mana took terrible fights with a slightly smaller army. That's not supposed to work.
Nothing will stop my hate for terran scum-race.
But yeah, the colossi derped hard there, Mana control wasn't so crisp as usual. Hope he warmed up.
Also, wtf twitch is lagging now out of nowhere.
So you think P should win if they engage in such a fashion with a smaller army? I mean, that's usually how it goes when storm is out, but storm wasn't out. Might as well give zealots 300 hp.
On May 31 2015 01:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Yaaay, imbarauders....
Come on mate, Mana took terrible fights with a slightly smaller army. That's not supposed to work.
Nothing will stop my hate for terran scum-race.
But yeah, the colossi derped hard there, Mana control wasn't so crisp as usual. Hope he warmed up.
Also, wtf twitch is lagging now out of nowhere.
So you think P should win if they engage in such a fashion with a smaller army? I mean, that's usually how it goes when storm is out, but storm wasn't out. Might as well give zealots 300 hp.
On May 31 2015 01:54 dazed25 wrote: i've given up predicting wcs results..
Since almost everyone is a foreigner, going full foreigner is too common to accurately predict the results of the foreignering.
lol
It's true though. Snute went ultimate foreigner vs Kelazhur, that was a complete surprise. I was also surprised MajOr didn't go full Korean at all in his group, not even one game.
On May 31 2015 01:54 dazed25 wrote: i've given up predicting wcs results..
Since almost everyone is a foreigner, going full foreigner is too common to accurately predict the results of the foreignering.
lol
It's true though. Snute went ultimate foreigner vs Kelazhur, that was a complete surprise. I was also surprised MajOr didn't go full Korean at all in his group, not even one game.
On May 31 2015 01:54 dazed25 wrote: i've given up predicting wcs results..
Since almost everyone is a foreigner, going full foreigner is too common to accurately predict the results of the foreignering.
lol
It's true though. Snute went ultimate foreigner vs Kelazhur, that was a complete surprise. I was also surprised MajOr didn't go full Korean at all in his group, not even one game.
major always ends up disappointing me
he used to dominate Polt in TvT as well. but he's been so underwhelming this year.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs iaguz Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs iaguz Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On May 31 2015 02:23 Shellshock wrote: crappppp I knew I should have picked Iaguz to advance but I feel like every time I do he has a bad day like against Nestea that one time
Was that the series where he kept getting counterattacked and bleeding out to banelings?
On May 31 2015 02:23 Shellshock wrote: crappppp I knew I should have picked Iaguz to advance but I feel like every time I do he has a bad day like against Nestea that one time
Was that the series where he kept getting counterattacked and bleeding out to banelings?
Hydra is becoming a westerner at an alarming rate.
it's all part of the plan. hydra, violet, and jaedong are all slowly turning into foreigners both in and out of starcraft. just need captain america now.
On May 31 2015 02:32 Tiaraju9 wrote: His explanation for losing to storms? "Protoss in 4 bases you lose".
That's why terran whining is disgusting. He could have said that he eated storms like a diamond player.
The way he plays makes me feel like he just desperately wants to avoid lategame because to him it's unbeatable. His midgame pushes are pretty scary and lethal while the way he played once storm+colossi were out just screamed "kill me, idgaf anymore"
On May 31 2015 02:32 Tiaraju9 wrote: His explanation for losing to storms? "Protoss in 4 bases you lose".
That's why terran whining is disgusting. He could have said that he eated storms like a diamond player.
The way he plays makes me feel like he just desperately wants to avoid lategame because to him it's unbeatable. His midgame pushes are pretty scary and lethal while the way he played once storm+colossi were out just screamed "kill me, idgaf anymore"
I hate so much when pro players make dumb balance complaints. Now I have to deal with diamond terrans saying to me on ladder that my race is disgusting and I should kill myself.
On May 31 2015 02:33 dazed25 wrote: goodguy mana dropping to the losers bracket just so he can slap around firecake some more post SH. giving the people what they want.
On May 31 2015 02:32 Tiaraju9 wrote: His explanation for losing to storms? "Protoss in 4 bases you lose".
That's why terran whining is disgusting. He could have said that he eated storms like a diamond player.
The way he plays makes me feel like he just desperately wants to avoid lategame because to him it's unbeatable. His midgame pushes are pretty scary and lethal while the way he played once storm+colossi were out just screamed "kill me, idgaf anymore"
I hate so much when pro players make dumb balance complaints. Now I have to deal with diamond terrans saying to me on ladder that my race is disgusting and I should kill myself.
Late game Protoss (4+ bases with storm) is objectively stronger than Terran and so hard to beat that most Terrans rather not even try.
Me an a few people were having frame rate issues on Echo when it was just in TLMC, so me an Uvantak spent about 3 hours testing to figure out what was causing it. He left a little easter egg in there as thanks. There's also a devourer somewhere in there because my icon was one at the time
On May 31 2015 02:58 Kaizor wrote: That was such a loud cheer for Masa...
Firecake must be really unpopular lol
Well, I guess MaSa is on ROOT which is a decently big and popular team. And maybe everyone in the audience is registered on TL and knows about Firecake's history of BM.
Me an a few people were having frame rate issues on Echo when it was just in TLMC, so me an Uvantak spent about 3 hours testing to figure out what was causing it. He left a little easter egg in there as thanks. There's also a devourer somewhere in there because my icon was one at the time
Also the map still lags a lot when watched in replay with the ProLeague lobby during PL.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
60%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
100%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 3?
★★★- Good game (1)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
50%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MaSa vs FireCake Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On May 31 2015 03:26 Elentos wrote: I feel like Firecake's TvZ would have been incredibly easy to exploit.
how?
0 mutas before 2/2 ground forces and safety roaches every time just screams "Exploit me plox".
with good multitasking, he can defend any drops with this build and since he delays mutas, he can also defend pushes even though he goes for safety roaches
the only thing that would be a way to exploit Firecake's style is cutting hellions and going very greedy
On May 31 2015 03:26 Elentos wrote: I feel like Firecake's TvZ would have been incredibly easy to exploit.
how?
0 mutas before 2/2 ground forces and safety roaches every time just screams "Exploit me plox".
with good multitasking, he can defend any drops with this build and since he delays mutas, he can also defend pushes even though he goes for safety roaches
the only thing that would be a way to exploit Firecake's style is cutting hellions and going very greedy
I dunno, I think a better macro player than MaSa would have been able to exploit the openings Firecake's build leaves.
Looking forward for the next game. Should be a good TvZ.
Edit: is it me or isn't Dustin Browder nearly as enthusiastic for HOTS as he was for Starcraft 2 back in the day? He looks exhausted and honestly a bit bored. That fake smile near the end doesn't help.
On May 31 2015 03:26 Elentos wrote: I feel like Firecake's TvZ would have been incredibly easy to exploit.
how?
0 mutas before 2/2 ground forces and safety roaches every time just screams "Exploit me plox".
with good multitasking, he can defend any drops with this build and since he delays mutas, he can also defend pushes even though he goes for safety roaches
the only thing that would be a way to exploit Firecake's style is cutting hellions and going very greedy
I dunno, I think a better macro player than MaSa would have been able to exploit the openings Firecake's build leaves.
maybe, but how? you mean going greedy or doing a certain push?
On May 31 2015 03:26 Elentos wrote: I feel like Firecake's TvZ would have been incredibly easy to exploit.
how?
0 mutas before 2/2 ground forces and safety roaches every time just screams "Exploit me plox".
with good multitasking, he can defend any drops with this build and since he delays mutas, he can also defend pushes even though he goes for safety roaches
the only thing that would be a way to exploit Firecake's style is cutting hellions and going very greedy
I dunno, I think a better macro player than MaSa would have been able to exploit the openings Firecake's build leaves.
maybe, but how? you mean going greedy or doing a certain push?
I think either would be possible, yeah. Definitely not doing the MaSa, getting supply blocked, not denying creep and not dropping when there are no mut-muts.
On May 31 2015 03:26 Elentos wrote: I feel like Firecake's TvZ would have been incredibly easy to exploit.
how?
0 mutas before 2/2 ground forces and safety roaches every time just screams "Exploit me plox".
with good multitasking, he can defend any drops with this build and since he delays mutas, he can also defend pushes even though he goes for safety roaches
the only thing that would be a way to exploit Firecake's style is cutting hellions and going very greedy
I dunno, I think a better macro player than MaSa would have been able to exploit the openings Firecake's build leaves.
maybe, but how? you mean going greedy or doing a certain push?
I think either would be possible, yeah. Definitely not doing the MaSa, getting supply blocked, not denying creep and not dropping when there are no mut-muts.
the thing is, the way Firecake plays in ZvT is very korean-esque with a fairly heavy queen opening and then late mutas that allow him to get 80 drones without dying, provided he multitasks well enough. but yeah there are definitely ways to exploit the roach opening
On May 31 2015 03:26 Elentos wrote: I feel like Firecake's TvZ would have been incredibly easy to exploit.
how?
0 mutas before 2/2 ground forces and safety roaches every time just screams "Exploit me plox".
with good multitasking, he can defend any drops with this build and since he delays mutas, he can also defend pushes even though he goes for safety roaches
the only thing that would be a way to exploit Firecake's style is cutting hellions and going very greedy
I dunno, I think a better macro player than MaSa would have been able to exploit the openings Firecake's build leaves.
maybe, but how? you mean going greedy or doing a certain push?
I think either would be possible, yeah. Definitely not doing the MaSa, getting supply blocked, not denying creep and not dropping when there are no mut-muts.
the thing is, the way Firecake plays in ZvT is very korean-esque with a fairly heavy queen opening and then late mutas that allow him to get 80 drones without dying, provided he multitasks well enough. but yeah there are definitely ways to exploit the roach opening
Yeah, he's actually quite similar to Skt T1 Dark in style
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what PiG's role is. He just stands there, doesn't say much, and neither hosts nor casts.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
this. just drop kaelaris imo. He's a nice guy and all but he's not funny and to have a diamond league (I think?) analytical caster is kind of shitty too. dont hate guys it just feels like they're hiring too many casters/hosts these days
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I think that's what he wants though... :/
The few times he has casted he looked angry and upset
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
this. just drop kaelaris imo. He's a nice guy and all but he's not funny and to have a diamond league (I think?) analytical caster is kind of shitty too. dont hate guys it just feels like they're hiring too many casters/hosts these days
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what PiG's role is. He just stands there, doesn't say much, and neither hosts nor casts.
he is the ZERG EXPERT. Hey at least he asks the play by play questions which i'm sure apollo couldn't have done. Still PiG is a fan favourite and i also really enjoy having him there. Would be cool if he casted more though.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
this. just drop kaelaris imo. He's a nice guy and all but he's not funny and to have a diamond league (I think?) analytical caster is kind of shitty too. dont hate guys it just feels like they're hiring too many casters/hosts these days
Kaelaris isn't an analytical caster though
Ah he's play by play right? Still he kind of feels out of place these days, just my thoughts though.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I think that's what he wants though... :/
The few times he has casted he looked angry and upset
He looked like he had lots of fun when casting with Maynarde at Katowice. Now that Redeye's gone he'll have to host more events in the future so I'm a bit concerned he'll never get to cast.
Here's a solid idea, just let messioso host, everyone loves him.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what PiG's role is. He just stands there, doesn't say much, and neither hosts nor casts.
he is the ZERG EXPERT. Hey at least he asks the play by play questions which i'm sure apollo couldn't have done. Still PiG is a fan favourite and i also really enjoy having him there. Would be cool if he casted more though.
Not to be blunt, but who is he? I have been following SC2 since the first week of BETA, and WCS is literally the first time I hear about this guy. I've never seen him in any of the premier tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, or WCS even.
To me it just seems as if they hired a third person just for the sake of having one.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what PiG's role is. He just stands there, doesn't say much, and neither hosts nor casts.
he is the ZERG EXPERT. Hey at least he asks the play by play questions which i'm sure apollo couldn't have done. Still PiG is a fan favourite and i also really enjoy having him there. Would be cool if he casted more though.
Not to be blunt, but who is he? I have been following SC2 since the first week of BETA, and WCS is literally the first time I hear about this guy. I've never seen him in any of the premier tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, or WCS even.
To me it just seems as if they hired a third person just for the sake of having one.
Top SEA player, GM on Korea, friendly, goodlooking guy, excellent coach as well. He's a pro, he really works hard to be a good player.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what PiG's role is. He just stands there, doesn't say much, and neither hosts nor casts.
he is the ZERG EXPERT. Hey at least he asks the play by play questions which i'm sure apollo couldn't have done. Still PiG is a fan favourite and i also really enjoy having him there. Would be cool if he casted more though.
Not to be blunt, but who is he? I have been following SC2 since the first week of BETA, and WCS is literally the first time I hear about this guy. I've never seen him in any of the premier tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, or WCS even.
To me it just seems as if they hired a third person just for the sake of having one.
He reached the Ro16 of season 1 WCS this year, you know.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what PiG's role is. He just stands there, doesn't say much, and neither hosts nor casts.
he is the ZERG EXPERT. Hey at least he asks the play by play questions which i'm sure apollo couldn't have done. Still PiG is a fan favourite and i also really enjoy having him there. Would be cool if he casted more though.
Not to be blunt, but who is he? I have been following SC2 since the first week of BETA, and WCS is literally the first time I hear about this guy. I've never seen him in any of the premier tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, or WCS even.
To me it just seems as if they hired a third person just for the sake of having one.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I think that's what he wants though... :/
The few times he has casted he looked angry and upset
I remember reading him saying he considers himself a commentator first, not a host.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I think that's what he wants though... :/
The few times he has casted he looked angry and upset
I remember reading him saying he considers himself a commentator first, not a host.
That way you can give the most convenient excuse for why you're mediocre at your job
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On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what PiG's role is. He just stands there, doesn't say much, and neither hosts nor casts.
he is the ZERG EXPERT. Hey at least he asks the play by play questions which i'm sure apollo couldn't have done. Still PiG is a fan favourite and i also really enjoy having him there. Would be cool if he casted more though.
Not to be blunt, but who is he? I have been following SC2 since the first week of BETA, and WCS is literally the first time I hear about this guy. I've never seen him in any of the premier tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, or WCS even.
To me it just seems as if they hired a third person just for the sake of having one.
He reached the Ro16 of season 1 WCS this year, you know.
So have players like MaSa, so that's nothing to go by. The level in WCS has pretty much crumbled since Blizzard kicked the Koreans out of AM/EU.
Can't help but feel that neither Apollo nor PiG are sure who's supposed to be the host.
On May 31 2015 03:37 Elentos wrote: God damn I hope they let Apollo cast some time this year. If he permanently goes to hosting WCS and IEM I'll be sad.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what PiG's role is. He just stands there, doesn't say much, and neither hosts nor casts.
he is the ZERG EXPERT. Hey at least he asks the play by play questions which i'm sure apollo couldn't have done. Still PiG is a fan favourite and i also really enjoy having him there. Would be cool if he casted more though.
Not to be blunt, but who is he? I have been following SC2 since the first week of BETA, and WCS is literally the first time I hear about this guy. I've never seen him in any of the premier tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, or WCS even.
To me it just seems as if they hired a third person just for the sake of having one.
He reached the Ro16 of season 1 WCS this year, you know.
So have players like MaSa, so that's nothing to go by. The level in WCS has pretty much crumbled since Blizzard kicked the Koreans out of AM/EU.
Can't help but feel that neither Apollo nor PiG are sure who's supposed to be the host.
MaSa has never gone past the Ro32 in WCS.
Apollo is the host, PiG is the expert for post-game analysis, that's basically it.
On May 31 2015 04:05 Alchemik wrote: wasn't MaSa supposed to be like good
It always depends to what you compare. He is really good for NA I'd say. Just not his best games today. But even his best games won't get him into the ro16 in WCS I think. Solid ro32 material if he doesn't have to play a korean in the challenger matches.
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All he had to do was FF, as he did, pick off Vikings with the Blink stalkers and keep the colossus back in the 3rd or natural while stalkers and FFs bought time.. instead they just sat there and died to Vikings
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Mana's PvT is not very good sadly, he was really disappointed with his skills in the matchup when I watched his stream a while ago. I think Masa can still advance now, would be nice if he gets to play in Toronto .
On May 31 2015 04:38 ossavi09 wrote: Mana loosing here might be the chance for showtime to not meet Snute in challenger if he qualifies =D
Mana's going to keep choosing Heromarine until Marine beats him.
how can mana "pick" heromarine, if he is the last player to pick an opponent =O?
Well, he's not the last by default, Snute also finished 4th, so they'll draw between one of them. Aside from that, I don't think Marine is a super popular choice for a lot of Premier league players.
On May 31 2015 04:38 ossavi09 wrote: Mana loosing here might be the chance for showtime to not meet Snute in challenger if he qualifies =D
Mana's going to keep choosing Heromarine until Marine beats him.
how can mana "pick" heromarine, if he is the last player to pick an opponent =O?
Well, he's not the last by default, Snute also finished 4th, so they'll draw between one of them. Aside from that, I don't think Marine is a super popular choice for a lot of Premier league players.
I think mana would need win HSC 11 ( if there are WCS points) to be able to pick before Snute /= but not sure tbh ^^
On May 31 2015 05:04 dazed25 wrote: the way iaguz is built, without any context like surroundings or other players, you can't tell whether he is huge or pocket sized.
We call it "tæt" in Denmark. It means tight. But the more correct way to say it is probably compact. He looks like he has higher density than a normal person. Sort of like a Marauder.
On May 31 2015 05:04 dazed25 wrote: the way iaguz is built, without any context like surroundings or other players, you can't tell whether he is huge or pocket sized.
We call it "tæt" in Denmark. It means tight. But the more correct way to say it is probably compact. He looks like he has higher density than a normal person. Sort of like a Marauder.
On May 31 2015 05:04 dazed25 wrote: the way iaguz is built, without any context like surroundings or other players, you can't tell whether he is huge or pocket sized.
We call it "tæt" in Denmark. It means tight. But the more correct way to say it is probably compact. He looks like he has higher density than a normal person. Sort of like a Marauder.
Iaguz: [failing to see over the depot wall] What's happening out there? Firecake: Shall I describe it to you? Iaguz: [turns] Hmm? Firecake: Or would you like me to find you a box?
Firecake's low apm is also due to the fact that he doesn't spam in early game nor micro his drones, he must have a very low average for the 5 first minutes of the game and accelerate after.
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On May 31 2015 05:17 Awin wrote: Firecake's low apm is also due to the fact that he doesn't spam in early game nor micro his drones, he must have a very low average for the 5 first minutes of the game and accelerate after.
Yeah he has 120 apm while macroing up and spreading creep at the start. I'm sure it went up once he started attacking.
On May 31 2015 05:20 boxerfred wrote: Let's be honest though, what killed Iaguz were some zerglings killing his eco at his third.
you mean his third cause he didn't lift it lol.
No that happened when he had already lost and got swarmed. I'm talking about the initial runby when his army wasn't being engaged yet. He reacted poorly to that.
it really amuses that normally you'd never wall off with ebays after scouting 2 base roaches, but iaguz knows Firecake has only 1 build and it's not roach aggression.
4 hours 20 minutes for 9 games... So much downtime...
(At that ratio and if ESL was to cast HTC Best of 69 between Snute and Bunny, it would last between almost 17 hours with a 35-0 stomp, and 33 hours for a 35-34...)
On May 31 2015 05:27 Serimek wrote: 4 hours 20 minutes for 9 games... So much downtime...
(At that ratio and if ESL was to cast HTC Best of 69 between Snute and Bunny, it would last between almost 17 hours with a 35-0 stomp, and 33 hours for a 35-34...)
Or an entire weekend if there were a lot of long games.
Firecake plays this ZvT very intelligent. His creep spread lets him survive until baneling speed arrives. That's why his econonmy is great and he can throw down a 4th easily. ZvT 101 one should think.
On May 31 2015 05:30 boxerfred wrote: Firecake plays this ZvT very intelligent. His creep spread lets him survive until baneling speed arrives. That's why his econonmy is great and he can throw down a 4th easily. ZvT 101 one should think.
his economy is great because he overdrones and then dies
On May 31 2015 05:25 BaneRiders wrote: I just realized that it is probably better to finish second in this group for the draw of the next groups...
lol yeah if you finish first you can get such wonderful prizes as Stardust, Hydra or Polt.
Hell you could even get 2 of the 3
How about getting ForGG, Hydra and Polt?
I'm not sure what the rules of the group draws are but you probably can't get all 3 of them in the same group.
Groups are IIRC 2 1st place and 2 2nd place that weren't a part of the same group in the ro16. So no SD/ForGG together but you could get ForGG/Hyda/Polt/any other 1st place player
On May 31 2015 05:30 boxerfred wrote: Firecake plays this ZvT very intelligent. His creep spread lets him survive until baneling speed arrives. That's why his econonmy is great and he can throw down a 4th easily. ZvT 101 one should think.
his economy is great because he overdrones and then dies
he overdroned once, he'd hold if he wouldn't make those 11 drones just before the fight
On May 31 2015 05:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote: hahaha 92 drones is this ret playing
No, just how modern ZvT has to be played in order to defend against the Terran parade push. Then you just pray and hope the Terran mines out before you do.
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On May 31 2015 05:30 boxerfred wrote: Firecake plays this ZvT very intelligent. His creep spread lets him survive until baneling speed arrives. That's why his econonmy is great and he can throw down a 4th easily. ZvT 101 one should think.
his economy is great because he overdrones and then dies
Yep. Though I think a macro hatch would've helped.
While game 1 felt like a solid one blow knockout, game 2 felt like someone just bashing his fist in the other one's face until the guy just passed out.
On May 31 2015 05:25 BaneRiders wrote: I just realized that it is probably better to finish second in this group for the draw of the next groups...
lol yeah if you finish first you can get such wonderful prizes as Stardust, Hydra or Polt.
Hell you could even get 2 of the 3
How about getting ForGG, Hydra and Polt?
I'm not sure what the rules of the group draws are but you probably can't get all 3 of them in the same group.
Groups are IIRC 2 1st place and 2 2nd place that weren't a part of the same group in the ro16. So no SD/ForGG together but you could get ForGG/Hyda/Polt/any other 1st place player
On May 31 2015 05:25 BaneRiders wrote: I just realized that it is probably better to finish second in this group for the draw of the next groups...
lol yeah if you finish first you can get such wonderful prizes as Stardust, Hydra or Polt.
Hell you could even get 2 of the 3
How about getting ForGG, Hydra and Polt?
interestingly enough there can't be an all korean group
On May 31 2015 05:31 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2015 05:29 BaneRiders wrote:
On May 31 2015 05:28 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 31 2015 05:27 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2015 05:25 BaneRiders wrote: I just realized that it is probably better to finish second in this group for the draw of the next groups...
lol yeah if you finish first you can get such wonderful prizes as Stardust, Hydra or Polt.
Hell you could even get 2 of the 3
How about getting ForGG, Hydra and Polt?
I'm not sure what the rules of the group draws are but you probably can't get all 3 of them in the same group.
Groups are IIRC 2 1st place and 2 2nd place that weren't a part of the same group in the ro16. So no SD/ForGG together but you could get ForGG/Hyda/Polt/any other 1st place player
On May 31 2015 05:04 dazed25 wrote: the way iaguz is built, without any context like surroundings or other players, you can't tell whether he is huge or pocket sized.
We call it "tæt" in Denmark. It means tight. But the more correct way to say it is probably compact. He looks like he has higher density than a normal person. Sort of like a Marauder.
On May 31 2015 05:37 IceBerrY wrote: TvZ is just a beautiful matchup. Much better than the rest.
And it almost always has been the case since the beginning of WoL. At least to me (and except the end of BL era).
when I first got into SC2 I liked ZvP the most because I thought the dynamic created by having the 2 more "weird" races play against each other was really cool
4:30 Fast scouts are rising. Stout dwarf legs with jetpacks make their way to the evil zorc base, finding nothing too special. 5:00 The dwarfs gather their hammers and start raising a 3rd CC. 5:30 Three dwarfs with jetpack engage some zorc queens that spit their teeth on them, driving them back. 6:30 Repetition of 5:30 7:15 Another zorc expansion gets denied by the scouts. Dwarfs discover how to get into the air: they keep throwing pigs up in the air until they learn to fly. 8:00 Dwarf bikes with flamethrowers kill zorc workers. Lots of them. Zorc goes to court for human rights in Den Haag.
It's surprising how, after five years of starcraft 2, there are still casters pronouncing the world 'lair' as 'layer'. It's equally surprising how it keeps catching me off guard, and I automatically start thinking "which layer of what?"
On May 31 2015 05:41 boxerfred wrote: LotR Battle Report
4:30 Fast scouts are rising. Stout dwarf legs with jetpacks make their way to the evil zorc base, finding nothing too special. 5:00 The dwarfs gather their hammers and start raising a 3rd CC. 5:30 Three dwarfs with jetpack engage some zorc queens that spit their teeth on them, driving them back. 6:30 Repetition of 5:30 7:15 Another zorc expansion gets denied by the scouts. Dwarfs discover how to get into the air: they keep throwing pigs up in the air until they learn to fly. 8:00 Dwarf bikes with flamethrowers kill zorc workers. Lots of them. Zorc goes to court for human rights in Den Haag.
lol
8:52 All dwarfs started to sing the 'gold' song...
On May 31 2015 05:41 boxerfred wrote: LotR Battle Report
4:30 Fast scouts are rising. Stout dwarf legs with jetpacks make their way to the evil zorc base, finding nothing too special. 5:00 The dwarfs gather their hammers and start raising a 3rd CC. 5:30 Three dwarfs with jetpack engage some zorc queens that spit their teeth on them, driving them back. 6:30 Repetition of 5:30 7:15 Another zorc expansion gets denied by the scouts. Dwarfs discover how to get into the air: they keep throwing pigs up in the air until they learn to fly. 8:00 Dwarf bikes with flamethrowers kill zorc workers. Lots of them. Zorc goes to court for human rights in Den Haag.
9:00 Court is busy judging FIFA because they feel insulted of implications of being corrupt. Also, there's a case of MK being accused of matchfixing still there. Zorc cries a lot, sends roaches, but flying pigs shoot at them, driving them back. 10:00 Dwarfs tought buildings to fly and take another expansion. Greedy capitalists. All about hoarding gold. Soon, Smaug will come. Maybe they'll bury too deep as well. 12:00 Roaches get killed. That's what they do. 12:30 First army of dwarfs is being sent out. Four more to go.
On May 31 2015 05:41 boxerfred wrote: LotR Battle Report
4:30 Fast scouts are rising. Stout dwarf legs with jetpacks make their way to the evil zorc base, finding nothing too special. 5:00 The dwarfs gather their hammers and start raising a 3rd CC. 5:30 Three dwarfs with jetpack engage some zorc queens that spit their teeth on them, driving them back. 6:30 Repetition of 5:30 7:15 Another zorc expansion gets denied by the scouts. Dwarfs discover how to get into the air: they keep throwing pigs up in the air until they learn to fly. 8:00 Dwarf bikes with flamethrowers kill zorc workers. Lots of them. Zorc goes to court for human rights in Den Haag.
9:00 Court is busy judging FIFA because they feel insulted of implications of being corrupt. Also, there's a case of MK being accused of matchfixing still there. Zorc cries a lot, sends roaches, but flying pigs shoot at them, driving them back. 10:00 Dwarfs tought buildings to fly and take another expansion. Greedy capitalists. All about hoarding gold. Soon, Smaug will come. Maybe they'll bury too deep as well. 12:00 Roaches get killed. That's what they do. 12:30 First army of dwarfs is being sent out. Four more to go.
14:00 Zorc creep spread goes totally nuts. Somewhere, Scarlett wakes up covered in sweat, shouting "WHO IS THIS GUY" 14:30 Huge dwarf army with machine guns going ham on drugs pushes towards zorc's fourth base. 15:30 fourth base falls, army falls. 16:00 Dwarfs send out second army, three more to go
On May 31 2015 05:41 boxerfred wrote: LotR Battle Report
4:30 Fast scouts are rising. Stout dwarf legs with jetpacks make their way to the evil zorc base, finding nothing too special. 5:00 The dwarfs gather their hammers and start raising a 3rd CC. 5:30 Three dwarfs with jetpack engage some zorc queens that spit their teeth on them, driving them back. 6:30 Repetition of 5:30 7:15 Another zorc expansion gets denied by the scouts. Dwarfs discover how to get into the air: they keep throwing pigs up in the air until they learn to fly. 8:00 Dwarf bikes with flamethrowers kill zorc workers. Lots of them. Zorc goes to court for human rights in Den Haag.
9:00 Court is busy judging FIFA because they feel insulted of implications of being corrupt. Also, there's a case of MK being accused of matchfixing still there. Zorc cries a lot, sends roaches, but flying pigs shoot at them, driving them back. 10:00 Dwarfs tought buildings to fly and take another expansion. Greedy capitalists. All about hoarding gold. Soon, Smaug will come. Maybe they'll bury too deep as well. 12:00 Roaches get killed. That's what they do. 12:30 First army of dwarfs is being sent out. Four more to go.
14:00 Zorc creep spread goes totally nuts. Somewhere, Scarlett wakes up covered in sweat, shouting "WHO IS THIS GUY" 14:30 Huge dwarf army with machine guns going ham on drugs pushes towards zorc's fourth base. 15:30 fourth base falls, army falls. 16:00 Dwarfs send out second army, three more to go
On May 31 2015 05:37 IceBerrY wrote: TvZ is just a beautiful matchup. Much better than the rest.
And it almost always has been the case since the beginning of WoL. At least to me (and except the end of BL era).
when I first got into SC2 I liked ZvP the most because I thought the dynamic created by having the 2 more "weird" races play against each other was really cool
ZvP is nice also. The first ones I saw with archon toilets involved was so exciting it still give me nerd chills just thinking about how wonderful and new it was.
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On May 31 2015 05:41 boxerfred wrote: LotR Battle Report
4:30 Fast scouts are rising. Stout dwarf legs with jetpacks make their way to the evil zorc base, finding nothing too special. 5:00 The dwarfs gather their hammers and start raising a 3rd CC. 5:30 Three dwarfs with jetpack engage some zorc queens that spit their teeth on them, driving them back. 6:30 Repetition of 5:30 7:15 Another zorc expansion gets denied by the scouts. Dwarfs discover how to get into the air: they keep throwing pigs up in the air until they learn to fly. 8:00 Dwarf bikes with flamethrowers kill zorc workers. Lots of them. Zorc goes to court for human rights in Den Haag.
9:00 Court is busy judging FIFA because they feel insulted of implications of being corrupt. Also, there's a case of MK being accused of matchfixing still there. Zorc cries a lot, sends roaches, but flying pigs shoot at them, driving them back. 10:00 Dwarfs tought buildings to fly and take another expansion. Greedy capitalists. All about hoarding gold. Soon, Smaug will come. Maybe they'll bury too deep as well. 12:00 Roaches get killed. That's what they do. 12:30 First army of dwarfs is being sent out. Four more to go.
14:00 Zorc creep spread goes totally nuts. Somewhere, Scarlett wakes up covered in sweat, shouting "WHO IS THIS GUY" 14:30 Huge dwarf army with machine guns going ham on drugs pushes towards zorc's fourth base. 15:30 fourth base falls, army falls. 16:00 Dwarfs send out second army, three more to go
17:00 Zerg anti air artillery is being repaired by tiny roboters with screwdrivers and laughs at flying zorc 17:30 Dwarf mines throw bombs at flying zorc, flying zorc cries a bit 18:00 Dwarf army starts acting like dwarfs, being stubborn und clumsy and clumped, and gets killed 18:30 Camera shows Gimli, Gimli looks not amused. Somewhere, Legolas is smirking, murmuring something about a red sun rising and blood being spelt last night 19:30 Zorc is taking the hobbits to isengard, dwarfs get rekt 20:00 The hobbit movies are trash, so dwarves don't send another army but surrender it instead. Somewhere, JRR Tolkien turns around in his grave because of this BR
On May 31 2015 05:41 boxerfred wrote: LotR Battle Report
4:30 Fast scouts are rising. Stout dwarf legs with jetpacks make their way to the evil zorc base, finding nothing too special. 5:00 The dwarfs gather their hammers and start raising a 3rd CC. 5:30 Three dwarfs with jetpack engage some zorc queens that spit their teeth on them, driving them back. 6:30 Repetition of 5:30 7:15 Another zorc expansion gets denied by the scouts. Dwarfs discover how to get into the air: they keep throwing pigs up in the air until they learn to fly. 8:00 Dwarf bikes with flamethrowers kill zorc workers. Lots of them. Zorc goes to court for human rights in Den Haag.
9:00 Court is busy judging FIFA because they feel insulted of implications of being corrupt. Also, there's a case of MK being accused of matchfixing still there. Zorc cries a lot, sends roaches, but flying pigs shoot at them, driving them back. 10:00 Dwarfs tought buildings to fly and take another expansion. Greedy capitalists. All about hoarding gold. Soon, Smaug will come. Maybe they'll bury too deep as well. 12:00 Roaches get killed. That's what they do. 12:30 First army of dwarfs is being sent out. Four more to go.
14:00 Zorc creep spread goes totally nuts. Somewhere, Scarlett wakes up covered in sweat, shouting "WHO IS THIS GUY" 14:30 Huge dwarf army with machine guns going ham on drugs pushes towards zorc's fourth base. 15:30 fourth base falls, army falls. 16:00 Dwarfs send out second army, three more to go
17:00 Zerg anti air artillery is being repaired by tiny roboters with screwdrivers and laughs at flying zorc 17:30 Dwarf mines throw bombs at flying zorc, flying zorc cries a bit 18:00 Dwarf army starts acting like dwarfs, being stubborn und clumsy and clumped, and gets killed 18:30 Camera shows Gimli, Gimli looks not amused. Somewhere, Legolas is smirking, murmuring something about a red sun rising and blood being spelt last night 19:30 Zorc is taking the hobbits to isengard, dwarfs get rekt 20:00 The hobbit movies are trash, so dwarves don't send another army but surrender it instead. Somewhere, JRR Tolkien turns around in his grave because of this BR
Ah, god, that's.. Man, I that sucks. The one result I didn't want was Firecake advancing, as dickish as that sounds. He's just so rude, I can't stand it. =/
On May 31 2015 05:55 Rehio wrote: Ah, god, that's.. Man, I that sucks. The one result I didn't want was Firecake advancing, as dickish as that sounds. He's just so rude, I can't stand it. =/
the WCS teaser is astonishingly great. can't say that often enough. the G1 advertisement following is a bit like drinking champagne, only to follow up with a big mac.
On May 31 2015 05:51 kaykoose wrote: Is there any foreign terran that can split? Dayshi was awesome but he seems retired now
Happy
hmm. I only see him mech vs Z
Bunny in general is the best foreign Terran at most things. He recently started playing mech a lot but his bio is good enough for him to beat some Korean Zergs :S
how do you guys feel about heroes? never really gotten into any MOBAs despite friends trying to get me to play LoL and dota. got a few months to kill before grad school and i'm basically checked out of playing heart of the swarm at this point.
On May 31 2015 05:57 dazed25 wrote: how do you guys feel about heroes? never really gotten into any MOBAs despite friends trying to get me to play LoL and dota. got a few months to kill before grad school and i'm basically checked out of playing heart of the swarm at this point.
On May 31 2015 05:57 dazed25 wrote: how do you guys feel about heroes? never really gotten into any MOBAs despite friends trying to get me to play LoL and dota. got a few months to kill before grad school and i'm basically checked out of playing heart of the swarm at this point.
it's really easy to understand. can be hard to master I think.
On May 31 2015 05:57 dazed25 wrote: how do you guys feel about heroes? never really gotten into any MOBAs despite friends trying to get me to play LoL and dota. got a few months to kill before grad school and i'm basically checked out of playing heart of the swarm at this point.
It's really funy. I love how different heroes and map objectives are. Creates a lot of cool interactions.
On May 31 2015 05:51 kaykoose wrote: Is there any foreign terran that can split? Dayshi was awesome but he seems retired now
Happy
hmm. I only see him mech vs Z
Bunny in general is the best foreign Terran at most things. He recently started playing mech a lot but his bio is good enough for him to beat some Korean Zergs :S
I find bunnys splits kind of like Taejas... very.. weird? But in the way where they dont want to OVERmicro
On May 31 2015 05:57 dazed25 wrote: how do you guys feel about heroes? never really gotten into any MOBAs despite friends trying to get me to play LoL and dota. got a few months to kill before grad school and i'm basically checked out of playing heart of the swarm at this point.
boring and too simple
Still that's why it's fun to play with friends of all skill levels and I like that you don't have to farm 20 minutes, you get right into the action. Definitely a fun game imo, just not fit as a main game, since it is indeed very simple.
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
Starwars is shit, even the "good" ones are just okay.
Actually, the prequel has great choreographies. Also, there's not much better in life than lightsaber fights. The original sequel is nice to watch . However, I'm too young to have experienced the star wars hype. The SFX must've been astonishing in the 70ies.
On May 31 2015 05:57 dazed25 wrote: how do you guys feel about heroes? never really gotten into any MOBAs despite friends trying to get me to play LoL and dota. got a few months to kill before grad school and i'm basically checked out of playing heart of the swarm at this point.
boring and too simple
Still that's why it's fun to play with friends of all skill levels and I like that you don't have to farm 20 minutes, you get right into the action. Definitely a fun game imo, just not fit as a main game, since it is indeed very simple.
echo, coda... not even one full season and already sick of the amount of games we see on these 2 maps. Says also a lot of the design of the other maps.
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
On May 31 2015 05:57 dazed25 wrote: how do you guys feel about heroes? never really gotten into any MOBAs despite friends trying to get me to play LoL and dota. got a few months to kill before grad school and i'm basically checked out of playing heart of the swarm at this point.
boring and too simple
Still that's why it's fun to play with friends of all skill levels and I like that you don't have to farm 20 minutes, you get right into the action. Definitely a fun game imo, just not fit as a main game, since it is indeed very simple.
On May 31 2015 05:51 kaykoose wrote: Is there any foreign terran that can split? Dayshi was awesome but he seems retired now
Happy
hmm. I only see him mech vs Z
Bunny in general is the best foreign Terran at most things. He recently started playing mech a lot but his bio is good enough for him to beat some Korean Zergs :S
I find bunnys splits kind of like Taejas... very.. weird? But in the way where they dont want to OVERmicro
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys.
I agree on the Hobitzes being bad but the prequels are so badly made; The story isn't just bad it doesn't make sense at all. God I hate them. I HATE THEM
On May 31 2015 05:51 kaykoose wrote: Is there any foreign terran that can split? Dayshi was awesome but he seems retired now
Happy
hmm. I only see him mech vs Z
Bunny in general is the best foreign Terran at most things. He recently started playing mech a lot but his bio is good enough for him to beat some Korean Zergs :S
I find bunnys splits kind of like Taejas... very.. weird? But in the way where they dont want to OVERmicro
Taeja's only weakness are his wrists
and dreamertt apparently back when taeja had good wrists
On May 31 2015 05:57 dazed25 wrote: how do you guys feel about heroes? never really gotten into any MOBAs despite friends trying to get me to play LoL and dota. got a few months to kill before grad school and i'm basically checked out of playing heart of the swarm at this point.
boring and too simple
Still that's why it's fun to play with friends of all skill levels and I like that you don't have to farm 20 minutes, you get right into the action. Definitely a fun game imo, just not fit as a main game, since it is indeed very simple.
maybe, but I don't have friends
;;
Well worth being Masters league though .
yeah, I may not have a social life, but none of those pricks are masters
On May 31 2015 05:53 Gentso wrote: I got banned from the twich channel for saying rotterdam looks like shit.... wat
lies are unacceptable on the internet sir, ban sounds justified. jk Dm me your twitch name I'll get you unbanned despite hurting my feelings
DO A SHOUTOUT TO THE LR ON STREAM we're the diehards tryhards.
quick start abusing all the casters because they only notice the negative comments
Hahaha not at all, I don't have acces to a PC frequently over here so I miss out a little but you guys are very appreciated <3. I'm just very sensitive these days <3
On May 31 2015 06:03 Heartland wrote: Star Wars always sucked.
i agree. i'm sure it was revolutionary at the time but i don't understand the whole culture/hype around it. i guess it's similar to the marvel movies of today. i don't enjoy those either besides a few exceptions like guardians of the galaxy. i guess it's all about that $$
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
Natalie's a babe, sure, but the acting outside of Obiwan was actually not that good. Samuel Jackson was laughably bad. Everything about those movies sucked.
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
Natalie's a babe, sure, but the acting outside of Obiwan was actually not that good. Samuel Jackson was laughably bad. Everything about those movies sucked.
On May 31 2015 06:03 Heartland wrote: Star Wars always sucked.
i agree. i'm sure it was revolutionary at the time but i don't understand the whole culture/hype around it. i guess it's similar to the marvel movies of today. i don't enjoy those either besides a few exceptions like guardians of the galaxy. i guess it's all about that $$
It was Indiana Jones in space, that's why it was fun. It was like Avengers without cringe-worthy scenes of the characters fighting or doing science. Guardians of the Galaxy is basically Star Wars.
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
Natalie's a babe, sure, but the acting outside of Obiwan was actually not that good. Samuel Jackson was laughably bad. Everything about those movies sucked.
Exactly that. Well, almost : the Immortal is neat though.
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
Natalie's a babe, sure, but the acting outside of Obiwan was actually not that good. Samuel Jackson was laughably bad. Everything about those movies sucked.
Dont let KBB hear you. He really liked episode 1
So does one of my good friends. Some people just have shitty opinions
Although it could be worse, they could like episode 2...
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
Natalie's a babe, sure, but the acting outside of Obiwan was actually not that good. Samuel Jackson was laughably bad. Everything about those movies sucked.
Nah. Rewatch Obi Wan vs. Anakin in III, rewatch the arena of II, rewatch Darth Maul vs. Obi Wan and Qui Gon in I. Awesome scenes. Samuel Jackson was decent, I found Jar Jar Bings the most annoying, the droid humour just bad and Count Dooku not too great.
On May 31 2015 06:13 boxerfred wrote: Also, we need to thank LucasArts for the Jedi Knight series. Awesome games, espcially 2.
are those the bioware games? i love mass effect and meant to check those out but was intimidated by how dated they seemed.
No, no, no. The Jedi Knight/Dark Forces games are awesome old-school first-person shooters with lightsabers. The Bioware Star Wars RPGs are the KOTOR games. Also good.
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On May 31 2015 06:14 Shellshock wrote: I would like to see them bring back iechoic tvt. it was the best
I can probably count on one hand how many people here know what youre talking about
2fact2port ?
yes. most fun way to play before blue flame nerf
So theres three people Although I don't think I should even count because I knew it had something to do with blue flame hellions and had to look up the rest
On May 31 2015 06:14 Shellshock wrote: I would like to see them bring back iechoic tvt. it was the best
I can probably count on one hand how many people here know what youre talking about
2fact2port ?
yes. most fun way to play before blue flame nerf
So theres three people Although I don't think I should even count because I knew it had something to do with blue flame hellions and had to look up the rest
I tried to use it a few times after they combined armory upgrades. The people I beat usually had no clue wtf I was doing and were more confused than anything I think and the people who beat me mostly went 2 rax reaper spam against me and I would just die early cause scouting is for chumps
On May 31 2015 06:23 KelsierSC wrote: KOTOR, Jedi academy and Battlefront 2 are my favourite Star wars games.
I junked JK2 online, even being in a clan. When we'd had clan wars, I'd always do the no force lightsaber duels where you only had force jump. I was so fucking great at it.
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
Natalie's a babe, sure, but the acting outside of Obiwan was actually not that good. Samuel Jackson was laughably bad. Everything about those movies sucked.
Nah. Rewatch Obi Wan vs. Anakin in III, rewatch the arena of II, rewatch Darth Maul vs. Obi Wan and Qui Gon in I. Awesome scenes. Samuel Jackson was decent, I found Jar Jar Bings the most annoying, the droid humour just bad and Count Dooku not too great.
That's just the light saber action scenes, why care (too much) about those?
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
Natalie's a babe, sure, but the acting outside of Obiwan was actually not that good. Samuel Jackson was laughably bad. Everything about those movies sucked.
Nah. Rewatch Obi Wan vs. Anakin in III, rewatch the arena of II, rewatch Darth Maul vs. Obi Wan and Qui Gon in I. Awesome scenes. Samuel Jackson was decent, I found Jar Jar Bings the most annoying, the droid humour just bad and Count Dooku not too great.
That's just the light saber action scenes, why care (too much) about those?
They were awesome. I'm not saying that the prequels were totally great. But they were decent and enjoyable.
On May 31 2015 06:14 Shellshock wrote: I would like to see them bring back iechoic tvt. it was the best
I can probably count on one hand how many people here know what youre talking about
2fact2port ?
yes. most fun way to play before blue flame nerf
So theres three people Although I don't think I should even count because I knew it had something to do with blue flame hellions and had to look up the rest
This build was one of the last I learnt before quitting playing SC2 "seriously" in 20112012. That the reason I remember it well. I learnt it in a Day9 daily in which iEchoic was invited (I think).
they are all bad compared to star wars so who cares
The hobbitzes are less bad than the prequels though
What? No. The Hobbit movies are the worst. I hate them more than naniwa.
But the prequels man, the prequels D:
Natalie Portman is totally hot, making up for a bad story. The acting was decent. Jar Jar Bings was like the biggest reason to not like the prequels. Oh, and the droid slapstick. And the french bad guys. Also, I like all actors involved besides Hayden Christiansen
Natalie's a babe, sure, but the acting outside of Obiwan was actually not that good. Samuel Jackson was laughably bad. Everything about those movies sucked.
Nah. Rewatch Obi Wan vs. Anakin in III, rewatch the arena of II, rewatch Darth Maul vs. Obi Wan and Qui Gon in I. Awesome scenes. Samuel Jackson was decent, I found Jar Jar Bings the most annoying, the droid humour just bad and Count Dooku not too great.
That's just the light saber action scenes, why care (too much) about those?
They were awesome. I'm not saying that the prequels were totally great. But they were decent and enjoyable.
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On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
And then we wonder why there's no frickin tournaments here.
There are no tournaments because there are no local players, and there are no local players because there are no tournaments. Its a real Catch-22
it all comes down to the ladder really. No one good plays on NA ladder cause no one good plays on NA ladder (also it's full of hackers and that's Blizzard's fault but still). And as a result, no one gets good in NA
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
Well, I've already accepted that USA players probably won't make it. I've been banking on the Canadians and Major and they all disappointed this season
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
I'm currently looking at a list of all people liquipedia has as being from the US. Its basically, in terms of people I'd expect to be able to get into premier Suppy Qxc Xeno Puck
With Neeb being in there if he still played (does he?).
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
I'm currently looking at a list of all people liquipedia has as being from the US. Its basically, in terms of people I'd expect to be able to get into premier Suppy Qxc Xeno Puck
With Neeb being in there if he still played (does he?).
Basically if NA goes on like this we might see Nathanias cast his own games in WCS Challenger soon.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
maybe they should at least make all the koreans even live/play in the regions like they "intended" instead of giving out special exceptions to players like Stardust so they can just have an easier time qualifying
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
Which would be unfair since GSL/SSL aren't region locked and some guys like Polt and ForGG would be forced to leave the regions if they wanted to continue to be pros, after years of living there.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
Actually I wasn't expecting any US player to get here, except maybe Xeno over iAsonu. I just wanted to point out that it was a big issue for a US game, and as USA is a populous country, not to have a single US player in the most important tournament there is outside of Korea. That is all.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
I'm currently looking at a list of all people liquipedia has as being from the US. Its basically, in terms of people I'd expect to be able to get into premier Suppy Qxc Xeno Puck
With Neeb being in there if he still played (does he?).
Can't even count Qxc and Suppy. So it's really just Xeno and Puck. Xeno really should have got out of his group..... damn
I forgot about Neeb. He looked strong last year. Then he must have stopped playing or something.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
maybe they should at least make all the koreans even live/play in the regions like they "intended" instead of giving out special exceptions to players like Stardust so they can just have an easier time qualifying
Just forbid cross server play for WCS competitors. Quite simple actually. NA ladder needs a revival. If they did that, every Korean more would actually help immensely when it comes to practice. Like having ForGG is definitely a huge plus for European players and Bunny and the other top players were actually sad when MC, First, Yoda and the rest left.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
I'm currently looking at a list of all people liquipedia has as being from the US. Its basically, in terms of people I'd expect to be able to get into premier Suppy Qxc Xeno Puck
With Neeb being in there if he still played (does he?).
Can't even count Qxc and Suppy. So it's really just Xeno and Puck. Xeno really should have got out of his group..... damn
I forgot about Neeb. He looked strong last year. Then he must have stopped playing or something.
iAsonu has been playing really well lately in chinese tournaments and apparently has a pretty high ranking on the KR ladder. He just doesnt get a lot of attention since the chinese scene is so tucked away. I dont think it's safe to say that Xeno should have gotten out of his group. iA seems like the better player
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
Which would be unfair since GSL/SSL aren't region locked and some guys like Polt and ForGG would be forced to leave the regions if they wanted to continue to be pros, after years of living there.
And its not like it would solve the problem either. The LCS gets away with such strict residency requirements both because of the weekly live even aspect and the fact that every region has at least a competitive team or two. A "WCS USA" or even a true WCS AM wouldn't solve the issue of there being nearly no Americans, let alone Canadians or Major that can stand at the world stage. Honestly league got lucky the TSM/C9 exist in NA, Fnatic/SK in EU, and the lot of Chinese teams that, even before Korean imports, still could be great.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
Which would be unfair since GSL/SSL aren't region locked and some guys like Polt and ForGG would be forced to leave the regions if they wanted to continue to be pros, after years of living there.
Well it's either we sort of fuck over 2 or 3 pros who have already wons tons of money and fame, and possibly save a scene or let NA rot like it has been for years.
We either go full region lock and give players some actual motivation to be the top of their scene, or we force Koreans to practice on NA and give them some our players some good practice so they can compete better on a world level. Right now we have neither of them and the problems are only getting worse
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
maybe they should at least make all the koreans even live/play in the regions like they "intended" instead of giving out special exceptions to players like Stardust so they can just have an easier time qualifying
Just forbid cross server play for WCS competitors. Quite simple actually. NA ladder needs a revival. If they did that, every Korean more would actually help immensely when it comes to practice. Like having ForGG is definitely a huge plus for European players and Bunny and the other top players were actually sad when MC, First, Yoda and the rest left.
I have no idea why players were sad about MC and co leaving.. It's not like they came close to winning anything last year with a year full of Koreans in the EU ladder... -.-
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
maybe they should at least make all the koreans even live/play in the regions like they "intended" instead of giving out special exceptions to players like Stardust so they can just have an easier time qualifying
Just forbid cross server play for WCS competitors. Quite simple actually. NA ladder needs a revival. If they did that, every Korean more would actually help immensely when it comes to practice. Like having ForGG is definitely a huge plus for European players and Bunny and the other top players were actually sad when MC, First, Yoda and the rest left.
I have no idea why players were sad about MC and co leaving.. It's not like they came close to winning anything last year with a year full of Koreans in the EU ladder... -.-
Because now it's hard for them to find good practice. So it's kinda like being sad and happy at the same time I guess? Sure they have it easier to win money now, but some top players actually care more about becoming better .
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
I'm currently looking at a list of all people liquipedia has as being from the US. Its basically, in terms of people I'd expect to be able to get into premier Suppy Qxc Xeno Puck
With Neeb being in there if he still played (does he?).
Can't even count Qxc and Suppy. So it's really just Xeno and Puck. Xeno really should have got out of his group..... damn
I forgot about Neeb. He looked strong last year. Then he must have stopped playing or something.
iAsonu has been playing really well lately in chinese tournaments and apparently has a pretty high ranking on the KR ladder. He just doesnt get a lot of attention since the chinese scene is so tucked away. I dont think it's safe to say that Xeno should have gotten out of his group. iA seems like the better player
True. I admit I don't know much about iA so I just assumed Xeno would beat him.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
Which would be unfair since GSL/SSL aren't region locked and some guys like Polt and ForGG would be forced to leave the regions if they wanted to continue to be pros, after years of living there.
Well it's either we sort of fuck over 2 or 3 pros who have already wons tons of money and fame, and possibly save a scene or let NA rot like it has been for years.
Let's be real for a moment. If Polt, ForGG and Hydra hadn't been allowed to compete in season 1, do you think a player associated with the NA region would have won? No, their level is too low. As someone else said, the NA scene has to be revived another way (stronger moves against maphacks and forcing people to actually use their regional ladder for example).
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
I'm currently looking at a list of all people liquipedia has as being from the US. Its basically, in terms of people I'd expect to be able to get into premier Suppy Qxc Xeno Puck
With Neeb being in there if he still played (does he?).
Can't even count Qxc and Suppy. So it's really just Xeno and Puck. Xeno really should have got out of his group..... damn
I forgot about Neeb. He looked strong last year. Then he must have stopped playing or something.
Fun fact : there might be more Frenchmen in ro16 than US players able to qualify still active.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
maybe they should at least make all the koreans even live/play in the regions like they "intended" instead of giving out special exceptions to players like Stardust so they can just have an easier time qualifying
Just forbid cross server play for WCS competitors. Quite simple actually. NA ladder needs a revival. If they did that, every Korean more would actually help immensely when it comes to practice. Like having ForGG is definitely a huge plus for European players and Bunny and the other top players were actually sad when MC, First, Yoda and the rest left.
I have no idea why players were sad about MC and co leaving.. It's not like they came close to winning anything last year with a year full of Koreans in the EU ladder... -.-
Because now it's hard for them to find good practice. So it's kinda like being sad and happy at the same time I guess? Sure they have it easier to win money now, but some top players actually care more about becoming better .
Becoming better with the goal being what? I am pretty sure winning money is the top priority of every progamer... Regardless of nationality.
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
maybe they should at least make all the koreans even live/play in the regions like they "intended" instead of giving out special exceptions to players like Stardust so they can just have an easier time qualifying
Just forbid cross server play for WCS competitors. Quite simple actually. NA ladder needs a revival. If they did that, every Korean more would actually help immensely when it comes to practice. Like having ForGG is definitely a huge plus for European players and Bunny and the other top players were actually sad when MC, First, Yoda and the rest left.
I have no idea why players were sad about MC and co leaving.. It's not like they came close to winning anything last year with a year full of Koreans in the EU ladder... -.-
Because now it's hard for them to find good practice. So it's kinda like being sad and happy at the same time I guess? Sure they have it easier to win money now, but some top players actually care more about becoming better .
Becoming better with the goal being what? I am pretty sure winning money is the top priority of every progamer... Regardless of nationality.
Becoming better with the goal of not being embarassed by good Korean players.
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
maybe they should at least make all the koreans even live/play in the regions like they "intended" instead of giving out special exceptions to players like Stardust so they can just have an easier time qualifying
Just forbid cross server play for WCS competitors. Quite simple actually. NA ladder needs a revival. If they did that, every Korean more would actually help immensely when it comes to practice. Like having ForGG is definitely a huge plus for European players and Bunny and the other top players were actually sad when MC, First, Yoda and the rest left.
I have no idea why players were sad about MC and co leaving.. It's not like they came close to winning anything last year with a year full of Koreans in the EU ladder... -.-
Because now it's hard for them to find good practice. So it's kinda like being sad and happy at the same time I guess? Sure they have it easier to win money now, but some top players actually care more about becoming better .
Becoming better with the goal being what? I am pretty sure winning money is the top priority of every progamer... Regardless of nationality.
Well in the long run they could actually win championships due to the better practice and in the end win even more money I guess? Well anyway that's what Bunny said and I see his point, ask him yourself if you want to know more about his thoughts .
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
Which would be unfair since GSL/SSL aren't region locked and some guys like Polt and ForGG would be forced to leave the regions if they wanted to continue to be pros, after years of living there.
Well it's either we sort of fuck over 2 or 3 pros who have already wons tons of money and fame, and possibly save a scene or let NA rot like it has been for years.
Let's be real for a moment. If Polt, ForGG and Hydra hadn't been allowed to compete in season 1, do you think a player associated with the NA region would have won? No, their level is too low. As someone else said, the NA scene has to be revived another way (stronger moves against maphacks and forcing people to actually use their regional ladder for example).
So we force better players to play on NA how? Making Koreans do games on it dind't really hellp because they half-assed the bare minimum amount, so what do we do? I mean, argueably the 2 best ladder players in NA in Scarlett and Kane are going to school at the end of the year so we lose them soon even. And Blizzard hasn't given a shit about maphackers for a long time we can't expect them to start now.
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
Which would be unfair since GSL/SSL aren't region locked and some guys like Polt and ForGG would be forced to leave the regions if they wanted to continue to be pros, after years of living there.
Well it's either we sort of fuck over 2 or 3 pros who have already wons tons of money and fame, and possibly save a scene or let NA rot like it has been for years.
Let's be real for a moment. If Polt, ForGG and Hydra hadn't been allowed to compete in season 1, do you think a player associated with the NA region would have won? No, their level is too low. As someone else said, the NA scene has to be revived another way (stronger moves against maphacks and forcing people to actually use their regional ladder for example).
So we force better players to play on NA how? Making Koreans do games on it dind't really hellp because they half-assed the bare minimum amount, so what do we do? I mean, argueably the 2 best ladder players in NA in Scarlett and Kane are going to school at the end of the year so we lose them soon even. And Blizzard hasn't given a shit about maphackers for a long time we can't expect them to start now.
If the coaches in Proleague complain about maphacking rather than talk about their games, you know it's an issue. I have no idea why Blizzard is so lax about that, but it's a huge problem .
As for the ladder, force the players playing in the NA region to practice on NA ladder for starters. Players like Stardust and JaeDong practice pretty much exclusively on the KR ladder.
On May 31 2015 07:10 ossavi09 wrote: after 7groups : 6 groups were won by europeans 1 group was won by a korean (there was no european in that group), the only korean living in EU =D
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
It's times like these where I feel like we need full citizenship locking for WCS. No more Koreans period.
Which would be unfair since GSL/SSL aren't region locked and some guys like Polt and ForGG would be forced to leave the regions if they wanted to continue to be pros, after years of living there.
Well it's either we sort of fuck over 2 or 3 pros who have already wons tons of money and fame, and possibly save a scene or let NA rot like it has been for years.
Let's be real for a moment. If Polt, ForGG and Hydra hadn't been allowed to compete in season 1, do you think a player associated with the NA region would have won? No, their level is too low. As someone else said, the NA scene has to be revived another way (stronger moves against maphacks and forcing people to actually use their regional ladder for example).
So we force better players to play on NA how? Making Koreans do games on it dind't really hellp because they half-assed the bare minimum amount, so what do we do? I mean, argueably the 2 best ladder players in NA in Scarlett and Kane are going to school at the end of the year so we lose them soon even. And Blizzard hasn't given a shit about maphackers for a long time we can't expect them to start now.
If the coaches in Proleague complain about maphacking rather than talk about their games, you know it's an issue. I have no idea why Blizzard is so lax about that, but it's a huge problem .
As for the ladder, force the players playing in the NA region to practice on NA ladder for starters. Players like Stardust and JaeDong practice pretty much exclusively on the KR ladder.
Let's be real here, Blizzard is lax about hackers because they dont' dedicate the manpower to Sc2 to even come close to dealing with it. It's doubtful they ever will. As for your 2nd point, thats quite difficult to do with the prevelance of smurfs and barcodes, but that's basically the only way to do anything I guess.
On May 31 2015 07:10 ossavi09 wrote: after 7groups : 6 groups were won by europeans 1 group was won by a korean (there was no european in that group), the only korean living in EU =D
On May 31 2015 07:10 ossavi09 wrote: after 7groups : 6 groups were won by europeans 1 group was won by a korean (there was no european in that group), the only korean living in EU =D
And Ro4 will have at least 3 Koreans :D
they thought that last time. they were false.
only because of bracket luck, no foreigner beat a korean that weekend.
and there will be 4 or 5 koreans this time instead of 3.
Firecake AKA white Myungsik made it out of his group and so did Myungsik in GSL. Blizzard should not even let these BM'ing kids compete in large scale tournaments.
On May 31 2015 15:12 Seeker wrote: Fun fact: For this season, liquid players either advanced out as first or got eliminated as last. There was no in between.
On May 31 2015 15:12 Seeker wrote: Fun fact: For this season, liquid players either advanced out as first or got eliminated as last. There was no in between.
Liquid confirmed Sith team dealing in absolutes.
What if Evil Geniuses were the good guys all along, now mostly extinct because of Liquid's Order 66? :O
On May 31 2015 06:38 Musicus wrote: Well NA still has Polt, Hydra, SD and most likely Jaedong representing them at the finals I guess.
meh, doesn't count
Can't even get a single NA player in here. Jesus christ...
NA is 1 out of 32 ro16 players this year in WCS (Kane). That also mean that US is zero, none, nada*.
* Not NaDa.
I mean who from the US would be expected to get here? Qxc was just coming back from a break, are there any other american's that are actually good?
NA does its duty by giving its spots to Koreans.
I'm currently looking at a list of all people liquipedia has as being from the US. Its basically, in terms of people I'd expect to be able to get into premier Suppy Qxc Xeno Puck
With Neeb being in there if he still played (does he?).
Basically if NA goes on like this we might see Nathanias cast his own games in WCS Challenger soon.
EPT
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