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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18413 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:19 Big J wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On May 05 2015 17:13 Big J wrote: On May 05 2015 17:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On May 05 2015 17:09 lichter wrote: On May 05 2015 17:05 Liquid`Ret wrote: ZvP right now........... /facepalm BUT WAIT A ZERG WON GFINITY... AND LIFE BEAT TERMINATOR AND SOULKEY BEAT PARTING WITH PROXY HATCHES it isnt so much the winrates, but the matchup has become pretty stale. blink all day long sucks to watch The problem is Blizzard seems to literally only look at winrates, they don't seem to ever look at how the wins come. I'm saying it's an easy job, but they've screwed the pooch over and over again when it comes to breaking stale meta. that's not true. They nerfed mines because of that and buffed tanks+merged mech upgrades. They removed Swarm Hosts because of that. They gave the one or other unit they wanted to see more of a slight buff. And despite that've been completely dedicated to leaving forcefields the most boring and bullshit ability ever. For every 1 thing they've done okay, they've left or ignored a bunch of issues that need to be addressed. Again, I'm not saying it's easy, but we need something rather than complete silence Well, I'm with you on this. But any poll or thread set up asking about whether blizzard should interfer always ends with "wait longer", "let the game develop", "BW was balanced by maps", "I'm too old for changes", "this is not a Moba" (love that one, saying that SC2 is not a Moba kills every argument). The community is getting the game they deserve and blizzard is doing an awesome job keeping it this way. BW endured years of terran dominance before saviour showed zergs how to beat terrans in late game and in SC2 we get constantly mediocre players whine about some balance issues. That's my biggest beef with SC2 | ||
covetousrat
2109 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:19 Alucen-Will- wrote: 5 minutes Wow no rest and rethinking of strategy for her0? | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:22 KelsierSC wrote: with women in South Korea getting lots of plastic surgery , how common are breast implants? It's fairly common in the west but in Korea do they mostly get surgery done on their face and that's it? How is this even relevant? | ||
Swisslink
2953 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:21 Big J wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:16 sharkie wrote: zergs would be losing to herO with the SH as well... Why are people balance whining? it worked with Swarm Hosts, maybe in the next balance patch they will redesign sentries to be "more of a harass unit" if we just keep going :D Good idea! Worked with the SwarmHosts and design wise Sentries aren't less shitty than pre-patch Swarmhosts! | ||
Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:23 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:22 KelsierSC wrote: with women in South Korea getting lots of plastic surgery , how common are breast implants? It's fairly common in the west but in Korea do they mostly get surgery done on their face and that's it? How is this even relevant? It's about Korea...besides it's probably more useful than balance talk | ||
Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
I wouldn't mind going on a night out and talk starcraft with him! | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:16 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 05 2015 17:14 Liquid`Ret wrote: On May 05 2015 17:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On May 05 2015 17:09 lichter wrote: On May 05 2015 17:05 Liquid`Ret wrote: ZvP right now........... /facepalm BUT WAIT A ZERG WON GFINITY... AND LIFE BEAT TERMINATOR AND SOULKEY BEAT PARTING WITH PROXY HATCHES it isnt so much the winrates, but the matchup has become pretty stale. blink all day long sucks to watch The problem is Blizzard seems to literally only look at winrates, they don't seem to ever look at how the wins come. I'm not saying it's an easy job, but they've screwed the pooch over and over again when it comes to breaking stale meta. Yeah, that's precisely the problem. Deeper issues are with the game, unit compositions, and balance, are invisible to them. I don't typically agree with you, but this is obviously true. The biggest issue with the game is the fundamental design with the Protoss race, which is essentially impossible to change at this point. At the current moment in time they need to pay more attention to ladder maps (which are utter dogshit atm. s3 2014 was the best map pool we have seen in sc2) and giving Zerg something to deal better with Protoss/Mech armies in the late game. And yet no matter how much community outcry there is, Blizzard will continue to ignore and put aside this problem and continue to pretend that because winrates are okay the game is okay. Even with the complete and total backing of TL and the community, we can't even get them to look at or understand a different economy model. We can't get them to actually watch the game and see the problems with it. It's like the completely don't give a fuck, which I'm really thinking at this point they don't My limited opinion on Blizzard's approach to SC2 and their games is that SC2 represents the closing chapter of their RTS past and once LotV is released they are finished with it. Sure they will release balance patches, continue supporting WCS and other tournaments and hosting Blizzcons with StarCraft, but the more I see Blizzard's approach to the game the more it seems they just don't really care too much and just want to end the series for other, more profitable or fresh games like Overwatch and continuing to release WoW expansions. | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:21 sharkie wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:19 Big J wrote: On May 05 2015 17:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On May 05 2015 17:13 Big J wrote: On May 05 2015 17:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On May 05 2015 17:09 lichter wrote: On May 05 2015 17:05 Liquid`Ret wrote: ZvP right now........... /facepalm BUT WAIT A ZERG WON GFINITY... AND LIFE BEAT TERMINATOR AND SOULKEY BEAT PARTING WITH PROXY HATCHES it isnt so much the winrates, but the matchup has become pretty stale. blink all day long sucks to watch The problem is Blizzard seems to literally only look at winrates, they don't seem to ever look at how the wins come. I'm saying it's an easy job, but they've screwed the pooch over and over again when it comes to breaking stale meta. that's not true. They nerfed mines because of that and buffed tanks+merged mech upgrades. They removed Swarm Hosts because of that. They gave the one or other unit they wanted to see more of a slight buff. And despite that've been completely dedicated to leaving forcefields the most boring and bullshit ability ever. For every 1 thing they've done okay, they've left or ignored a bunch of issues that need to be addressed. Again, I'm not saying it's easy, but we need something rather than complete silence Well, I'm with you on this. But any poll or thread set up asking about whether blizzard should interfer always ends with "wait longer", "let the game develop", "BW was balanced by maps", "I'm too old for changes", "this is not a Moba" (love that one, saying that SC2 is not a Moba kills every argument). The community is getting the game they deserve and blizzard is doing an awesome job keeping it this way. BW endured years of terran dominance before saviour showed zergs how to beat terrans in late game and in SC2 we get constantly mediocre players whine about some balance issues. That's my biggest beef with SC2 The difference is BW wasn't in danger of dying and being out competed by other games like Sc2 is. We need the fixes now or the scene is fucked. | ||
Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:23 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:22 KelsierSC wrote: with women in South Korea getting lots of plastic surgery , how common are breast implants? It's fairly common in the west but in Korea do they mostly get surgery done on their face and that's it? How is this even relevant? sc2 -> korea - > hot korean girls -> plastic surgey -> hotter korean girls -> korea -> sc2 | ||
KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:23 Swisslink wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:21 Big J wrote: On May 05 2015 17:16 sharkie wrote: zergs would be losing to herO with the SH as well... Why are people balance whining? it worked with Swarm Hosts, maybe in the next balance patch they will redesign sentries to be "more of a harass unit" if we just keep going :D Good idea! Worked with the SwarmHosts and design wise Sentries aren't less shitty than pre-patch Swarmhosts! As if. Changing sentries needs all other Protoss units to be changed aswell. Else they just go back to playing 1-base all-ins because they can't expand. Too much work. | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote: herO and Dark are both cuties omg Dark is a cutie, herO is a former cutie who's turned into an unlikeable protoss bullshiter like the rest of them | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Dark is a cutie, herO is a former cutie who's turned into an unlikeable protoss bullshiter like the rest of them cry me a fucking river | ||
Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:26 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:23 Swisslink wrote: On May 05 2015 17:21 Big J wrote: On May 05 2015 17:16 sharkie wrote: zergs would be losing to herO with the SH as well... Why are people balance whining? it worked with Swarm Hosts, maybe in the next balance patch they will redesign sentries to be "more of a harass unit" if we just keep going :D Good idea! Worked with the SwarmHosts and design wise Sentries aren't less shitty than pre-patch Swarmhosts! As if. Changing sentries needs all other Protoss units to be changed aswell. Else they just go back to playing 1-base all-ins because they can't expand. I'm sure the new harass-trie is going to solve all problems. Flying forcefields to block overlords from spawning. Sounds like something that Protoss has definitely been lacking. | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:13 Big J wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On May 05 2015 17:09 lichter wrote: On May 05 2015 17:05 Liquid`Ret wrote: ZvP right now........... /facepalm BUT WAIT A ZERG WON GFINITY... AND LIFE BEAT TERMINATOR AND SOULKEY BEAT PARTING WITH PROXY HATCHES it isnt so much the winrates, but the matchup has become pretty stale. blink all day long sucks to watch The problem is Blizzard seems to literally only look at winrates, they don't seem to ever look at how the wins come. I'm saying it's an easy job, but they've screwed the pooch over and over again when it comes to breaking stale meta. that's not true. They nerfed mines because of that and buffed tanks+merged mech upgrades. They removed Swarm Hosts because of that. They gave the one or other unit they wanted to see more of a slight buff. I'd take SH back any day over the tedium we have right now with zerg | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2015 17:16 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 05 2015 17:14 Liquid`Ret wrote: On May 05 2015 17:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On May 05 2015 17:09 lichter wrote: On May 05 2015 17:05 Liquid`Ret wrote: ZvP right now........... /facepalm BUT WAIT A ZERG WON GFINITY... AND LIFE BEAT TERMINATOR AND SOULKEY BEAT PARTING WITH PROXY HATCHES it isnt so much the winrates, but the matchup has become pretty stale. blink all day long sucks to watch The problem is Blizzard seems to literally only look at winrates, they don't seem to ever look at how the wins come. I'm not saying it's an easy job, but they've screwed the pooch over and over again when it comes to breaking stale meta. Yeah, that's precisely the problem. Deeper issues are with the game, unit compositions, and balance, are invisible to them. I don't typically agree with you, but this is obviously true. The biggest issue with the game is the fundamental design with the Protoss race, which is essentially impossible to change at this point. At the current moment in time they need to pay more attention to ladder maps (which are utter dogshit atm. s3 2014 was the best map pool we have seen in sc2) and giving Zerg something to deal better with Protoss/Mech armies in the late game. And yet no matter how much community outcry there is, Blizzard will continue to ignore and put aside this problem and continue to pretend that because winrates are okay the game is okay. Even with the complete and total backing of TL and the community, we can't even get them to look at or understand a different economy model. We can't get them to actually watch the game and see the problems with it. It's like the completely don't give a fuck, which I'm really thinking at this point they don't I would like anyone who criticizes the Blizzard for "not listening to the community" to take a step back and (without me predicating the results) think about the following ideas: - who is "the community"? are there contradictory opinions among people interested in SC2? is TL.net the only SC2 community or are there other places with maybe far more users? - is everything that the "collective mind" wants/hates this month really the correct assessment? would you like to see all the suggestions you see around the web implemented? would you like to have the game balanced based on what people cry imba most about? I for one think Blizzard is doing a pretty great job in NOT listening to the community and almost every time they actually do something based on the common opinion, it is a disaster, largely because the "community" is made of randomly chosen people and thus mostly of idiots. I understand that some people who discuss SC2 here on TL are pretty bright in contrast and have a consistent vision of SC2, however should Blizzard listen to them, we would have moreorless BW in 3D with about a hundred of active players. | ||
KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On May 05 2015 17:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Dark is a cutie, herO is a former cutie who's turned into an unlikeable protoss bullshiter like the rest of them + Show Spoiler + ![]() ![]() | ||
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