EPT[Code S] Ro32 Group B Season 2 2015 - Page 17
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Elentos
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On April 29 2015 19:56 Alucen-Will- wrote: Dark is overrated, who woulda thought? oh wait, me Dark's only shown true excellence in ZvT and ZvT. | ||
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Highways
Australia6124 Posts
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
On April 29 2015 19:50 TT1 wrote: why not? hydras got buffed and protoss cant do collosus timings anymore cus z can tech up to vipers so fast, and infestors are practically the same.. protoss just goes for gate unit, blink stalker or immortal timings. pretty easy to scout and respond accordingly if you play properly. you'll understand eventually when zerg starts crushing protoss. haha no the reason protoss doesn't build colo is because they don't need to without SH. Stalker immortal sentry trades really well vs anything zerg has in the mid to lategame | ||
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Tyrhanius
France947 Posts
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 29 2015 19:57 Elentos wrote: Dark's only shown true excellence in ZvT and ZvT. And bopping Parting | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On April 29 2015 19:57 JulDraGoN wrote: Interesting. I'm a scrub so little do I know other than the stuff I've seen, please excuse my ignorance. You need 6 non upgraded Tempest to 1 shot a Brood Lord instead of the previous 4. Is this really a game breaking difference? Weren't tosses getting 6+ Tempest anyways in the super late game vs any late game Zerg composition (Swarm hosts / Broods / Ultras)? Protoss were getting mass tempests because of Swarm Hosts. Usual "turtle" build is mass spore & 20ish swarm hosts with pulls into the defense. You cannot fight this with void rays or carriers, so tempests, because of range  Edit> Or mass corruptors, it's all about abducts, with enough vision you cannot abduct but Protoss is dealing damage. That's basically all | ||
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dazed25
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Elentos
55594 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On April 29 2015 19:58 Tyrhanius wrote: P don't even need AOE now, nor transition, nor economic lead, just mass sentry/blink/immortal.... Come to think of it, Protoss is looking more and more like Terran (In vZ, ofc) every day. High micro-based, low-econ army of mostly the same units (stalker/sentry/immortal vs 4M) with one 'dont ling surround me' unit. | ||
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JulDraGoN
Sweden370 Posts
On April 29 2015 19:58 deacon.frost wrote: Protoss were getting mass tempests because of Swarm Hosts. Usual "turtle" build is mass spore & 20ish swarm hosts with pulls into the defense. You cannot fight this with void rays or carriers, so tempests, because of range Right, but that is what they are doing today but replace Swarm Host with Brood Lord. What has changed? The only thing I see that has changed is the fact the the poor Zergs can't defend against mid game pushes as easily any more. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 29 2015 20:00 Soularion wrote: Come to think of it, Protoss is looking more and more like Terran (In vZ, ofc) every day. High micro-based, low-econ army of mostly the same units (stalker/sentry/immortal vs 4M) with one 'dont ling surround me' unit. Cept Zerg can counter micro that dont ling surround me Terran unit. | ||
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TT1
Canada10105 Posts
On April 29 2015 19:57 JulDraGoN wrote: Interesting. I'm a scrub so little do I know other than the stuff I've seen, please excuse my ignorance. You need 6 non upgraded Tempest to 1 shot a Brood Lord instead of the previous 4. Is this really a game breaking difference? Weren't tosses getting 6+ Tempest anyways in the super late game vs any late game Zerg composition (Swarm hosts / Broods / Ultras)? protoss was getting 6+ tempests vs sh + mass static D, not vs broodlord comps (i wasnt active during the sh era but im pretty sure no one was going bl anyways) | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 29 2015 20:01 GumBa wrote: Cept Zerg can counter micro that dont ling surround me Terran unit. good job the protoss unit costs 4 times as much gas then | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On April 29 2015 19:59 GumBa wrote: Wow people hatin on Dark so fast. So yeah he loses a few maps and games and all of a sudden he is terrible? Gimme a break. It's the Flash phenomenon. Huge hype leading to hate when the results aren't there. He probably has the best ZvT in the world besides Life but he hasn't proven himself in the other matchups yet. Same thing with Dream. And not gonna lie I'm one of those haters who is enjoying this told you so moment. Not too proud of it. He is still probably one of the favorites to get out of this group behind PartinG but I really wish I picked Myungsick instead of him for my liquibet. | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On April 29 2015 20:02 dazed25 wrote: It's the Flash phenomenon. Huge hype leading to hate when the results aren't there. He probably has the best ZvT in the world besides Life but he hasn't proven himself in the other matchups yet. Same thing with Dream. And not gonna lie I'm one of those haters who is enjoying this told you so moment. Not too proud of it. He is still probably one of the favorites to get out of this group behind PartinG but I really wish I picked Myungsick instead of him for my liquibet. Yep. I've been praising Rogue who I consider to be a much stronger player all around than Dark, not surprising this sort of thing happens Edit: Dark is a good player, albeit it overrated | ||
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