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On April 05 2015 03:13 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The way Thors hang below medivacs is really one the coolest animations in the game
I think Its unfair. Ultra drops and colossus drops don't have any graphical indicators.
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i expect two games between firecake - polt
one under the 25 min marks and an other one under the 18 min marks
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it's funny that he says he's very good vs. hellbats but dealt with Polt's hellbats on catallena very badly.
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David Kim is in France just for WCS?
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On April 05 2015 03:18 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:17 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 03:16 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:15 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:08 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:01 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:00 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:57 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 02:56 Wildmoon wrote:
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It's correct. Mech is viable in TvZ and TvT but pure mech in both MU are less popular than bio or bio/tank. And Mech is crap in TvP. "less popular" doesn't mean "less viable" and yes, at very high level TvP mech is pretty bad It usually means less viable. It means bio can bring you more wins consistently in most case. I think pro players pick what comp to use based on what's the best comp and bio happens to be the one used much more frequently. Mech would probably be much less successful overall if Zergs blindly assumed mech and not bio. Buy saying it's far less viable is like saying 11/11 is a bad build just because it won't work if you do 11/11 only. I don't understand your comparison. 11/11 is a strategy. Mech is a unit composition. You can have many strategies with mech but it really doesn't change that it's inferior to Bio in most case. I explained it. If you play like you were blindly expecting mech, you are going to have much easier time vs it, than if you were expecting bio (eg. Soulkey vs Gumiho or Life vs ForGG in CaseKing Invitational), because all "standard" builds are tailored to deal with bio while taking mech into consideration. The same way 11/11 works if it's not expected. Mech openings aren't that different from each other and there's plenty of stuff you can do to shut them down. So how does that has anything to do with my point that mech is inferior to bio in most case? I'm saying it's not inferior, it's just easier to hard counter. It can actually be stronger than bio when not expected. aside from roach/nydus or, obviously, roach drops, what would you do to counter it? normal 1/1 roach or 2 base muta isn't actually good vs mech Soulkey beat Gumiho pretty hard with roaches and queens.
so yeah, roach/nydus
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On April 05 2015 03:19 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:18 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:17 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 03:16 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:15 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:08 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:01 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:00 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:57 Alchemik wrote:
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"less popular" doesn't mean "less viable"
and yes, at very high level TvP mech is pretty bad It usually means less viable. It means bio can bring you more wins consistently in most case. I think pro players pick what comp to use based on what's the best comp and bio happens to be the one used much more frequently. Mech would probably be much less successful overall if Zergs blindly assumed mech and not bio. Buy saying it's far less viable is like saying 11/11 is a bad build just because it won't work if you do 11/11 only. I don't understand your comparison. 11/11 is a strategy. Mech is a unit composition. You can have many strategies with mech but it really doesn't change that it's inferior to Bio in most case. I explained it. If you play like you were blindly expecting mech, you are going to have much easier time vs it, than if you were expecting bio (eg. Soulkey vs Gumiho or Life vs ForGG in CaseKing Invitational), because all "standard" builds are tailored to deal with bio while taking mech into consideration. The same way 11/11 works if it's not expected. Mech openings aren't that different from each other and there's plenty of stuff you can do to shut them down. So how does that has anything to do with my point that mech is inferior to bio in most case? I'm saying it's not inferior, it's just easier to hard counter. It can actually be stronger than bio when not expected. aside from roach/nydus or, obviously, roach drops, what would you do to counter it? normal 1/1 roach or 2 base muta isn't actually good vs mech Soulkey beat Gumiho pretty hard with roaches and queens. so yeah, roach/nydus
I think speed roaches are pretty reliable. Not like he's going to open blind 2 factory tank or something.
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On April 05 2015 03:19 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:13 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The way Thors hang below medivacs is really one the coolest animations in the game I think Its unfair. Ultra drops and colossus drops don't have any graphical indicators.
which is somehow funny like "oh well an overlord what can that fat ass do FUCK ULTRA IN MY ECO LINE WHAT THE FUCK"
or the colossus version: you don't even need to see the unload it's just like from a point beyond any vision, your scv's are getting lasered.
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On April 05 2015 03:19 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:19 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 03:18 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:17 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 03:16 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:15 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:08 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:01 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:00 Wildmoon wrote:
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It usually means less viable. It means bio can bring you more wins consistently in most case. I think pro players pick what comp to use based on what's the best comp and bio happens to be the one used much more frequently.
Mech would probably be much less successful overall if Zergs blindly assumed mech and not bio. Buy saying it's far less viable is like saying 11/11 is a bad build just because it won't work if you do 11/11 only. I don't understand your comparison. 11/11 is a strategy. Mech is a unit composition. You can have many strategies with mech but it really doesn't change that it's inferior to Bio in most case. I explained it. If you play like you were blindly expecting mech, you are going to have much easier time vs it, than if you were expecting bio (eg. Soulkey vs Gumiho or Life vs ForGG in CaseKing Invitational), because all "standard" builds are tailored to deal with bio while taking mech into consideration. The same way 11/11 works if it's not expected. Mech openings aren't that different from each other and there's plenty of stuff you can do to shut them down. So how does that has anything to do with my point that mech is inferior to bio in most case? I'm saying it's not inferior, it's just easier to hard counter. It can actually be stronger than bio when not expected. aside from roach/nydus or, obviously, roach drops, what would you do to counter it? normal 1/1 roach or 2 base muta isn't actually good vs mech Soulkey beat Gumiho pretty hard with roaches and queens. so yeah, roach/nydus I think speed roaches are pretty reliable. Not like he's going to open blind 2 factory tank or something.
unless he scouts
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On April 05 2015 03:17 Boucot wrote:And it will be beautiful.
Why so much hate?
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On April 05 2015 03:19 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:13 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The way Thors hang below medivacs is really one the coolest animations in the game I think Its unfair. Ultra drops and colossus drops don't have any graphical indicators.
They should make Ultralisks ride overlords like a horse. Collosus/warpprism I'm out of ideas
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On April 05 2015 03:19 boxerfred wrote:
it's funny that he says he's very good vs. hellbats but dealt with Polt's hellbats on catallena very badly.
It was a pretty good hold for someone with neither a roach warren or a bane nest
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now go and tear firecancer a new one captain!!!
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DIE DIE DIE DIE FIRECAKE. DIE IN FIRE WHILE I EAT CAKE NOM NOM NOM
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David klim is TINY! I want to keep him as my pet! 
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On April 05 2015 03:19 Tiaraju9 wrote:
David Kim is in France just for WCS?
i guess so
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On April 05 2015 03:19 Tiaraju9 wrote:
David Kim is in France just for WCS?
Blizzard Europe HQ is near Paris so maybe he'll spend some time there too.
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On April 05 2015 03:20 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:19 boxerfred wrote:
it's funny that he says he's very good vs. hellbats but dealt with Polt's hellbats on catallena very badly. It was a pretty good hold for someone with neither a roach warren or a bane nest
The real damage was done because his natural was left empty which cost him lots of drones and zerglings in the process. I call that "not dealing well with an attack" :/. If Polt had lifted his additional four hellions in the main and made them hellbats there, hydra would probably have died right at this point. But who knows.
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All I want is for FCK to be destroyed into a breakdown on Twitter.
I MOVE OBJECTS WITH MY MIND
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I haven't seen Adepts used in any of the LotV games I've watched yet. Are they interesting?
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EPT
