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Polt still relies on widow mines too much.. He needs to do something about his TvZ.
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On April 05 2015 03:15 Fran_ wrote:
Very poor macro out of Polt this time.
Yeah, I feel like Polt's supply block early on set him very far behind.
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hydra interview in English?
Ok, I can cheer for him
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On April 05 2015 03:15 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:08 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:01 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:00 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:57 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 02:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:53 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 02:53 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:52 Alchemik wrote:
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mech is just as viable as bio, in TvT it's a bit more interesting to watch, but, according to every Terran I've ever seen, way easier to play and horrible to play against Mech is far less viable than bio across all MUs in SC2. aside from TvP, that's incorrect It's correct. Mech is viable in TvZ and TvT but pure mech in both MU are less popular than bio or bio/tank. And Mech is crap in TvP. "less popular" doesn't mean "less viable" and yes, at very high level TvP mech is pretty bad It usually means less viable. It means bio can bring you more wins consistently in most case. I think pro players pick what comp to use based on what's the best comp and bio happens to be the one used much more frequently. Mech would probably be much less successful overall if Zergs blindly assumed mech and not bio. Buy saying it's far less viable is like saying 11/11 is a bad build just because it won't work if you do 11/11 only. I don't understand your comparison. 11/11 is a strategy. Mech is a unit composition. You can have many strategies with mech but it really doesn't change that it's inferior to Bio in most case. I explained it. If you play like you were blindly expecting mech, you are going to have much easier time vs it, than if you were expecting bio (eg. Soulkey vs Gumiho or Life vs ForGG in CaseKing Invitational), because all "standard" builds are tailored to deal with bio while taking mech into consideration. The same way 11/11 works if it's not expected. Mech openings aren't that different from each other and there's plenty of stuff you can do to shut them down. So how does that has anything to do with my point that mech is inferior to bio in most case?
I'm saying it's not inferior, it's just easier to hard counter. It can actually be stronger than bio when not expected.
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for a moment I thought he said hermit push.
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On April 05 2015 03:16 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Yeah, I feel like Polt's supply block early on set him very far behind.
Yeah...Playing straight up TvZ where you let a zerg get to 80 drones is typically not a very strong style unless your micro in engagements is excellent-Maru/Taeja/Innovation, etc.
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On April 05 2015 03:16 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Yeah, I feel like Polt's supply block early on set him very far behind.
That, and floating 1500 minerals while pushing.
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Did anybody else get a kick out of watching Hydra eye-fucking that trophy as he walked to the stage and the interview? He's getting thoughts about it already.
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that guy in the crowd had a door rag on his head
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On April 05 2015 03:16 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:15 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:08 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:01 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:00 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:57 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 02:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:53 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 02:53 Wildmoon wrote:
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Mech is far less viable than bio across all MUs in SC2.
aside from TvP, that's incorrect It's correct. Mech is viable in TvZ and TvT but pure mech in both MU are less popular than bio or bio/tank. And Mech is crap in TvP. "less popular" doesn't mean "less viable" and yes, at very high level TvP mech is pretty bad It usually means less viable. It means bio can bring you more wins consistently in most case. I think pro players pick what comp to use based on what's the best comp and bio happens to be the one used much more frequently. Mech would probably be much less successful overall if Zergs blindly assumed mech and not bio. Buy saying it's far less viable is like saying 11/11 is a bad build just because it won't work if you do 11/11 only. I don't understand your comparison. 11/11 is a strategy. Mech is a unit composition. You can have many strategies with mech but it really doesn't change that it's inferior to Bio in most case. I explained it. If you play like you were blindly expecting mech, you are going to have much easier time vs it, than if you were expecting bio (eg. Soulkey vs Gumiho or Life vs ForGG in CaseKing Invitational), because all "standard" builds are tailored to deal with bio while taking mech into consideration. The same way 11/11 works if it's not expected. Mech openings aren't that different from each other and there's plenty of stuff you can do to shut them down. So how does that has anything to do with my point that mech is inferior to bio in most case? I'm saying it's not inferior, it's just easier to hard counter. It can actually be stronger than bio when not expected.
aside from roach/nydus or, obviously, roach drops, what would you do to counter it? normal 1/1 roach or 2 base muta isn't actually good vs mech
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The trophy belongs to Hydra.
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On April 05 2015 03:15 Noonius wrote:
Polt will destroy Firecake
And it will be beautiful.
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Lol hydra with the "korean head in hands" look walking offstage. Nice English.
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On April 05 2015 03:15 Ej_ wrote:by proximity, elfi > Zest since elfi > Morrow and Morrow > Polt and Polt > Classic and Classic > soO and soO > Zest (in the season Bogus won)
Didin't Polt lose to Classic at Blizzcon?
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oh well he's cute okay I admit it I like him but he needs to adjust to western manners. drink more, swear and rabble more, cheer more.
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On April 05 2015 03:17 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:16 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:15 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:08 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 03:01 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2015 03:00 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:57 Alchemik wrote:On April 05 2015 02:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 05 2015 02:53 Alchemik wrote:
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aside from TvP, that's incorrect It's correct. Mech is viable in TvZ and TvT but pure mech in both MU are less popular than bio or bio/tank. And Mech is crap in TvP. "less popular" doesn't mean "less viable" and yes, at very high level TvP mech is pretty bad It usually means less viable. It means bio can bring you more wins consistently in most case. I think pro players pick what comp to use based on what's the best comp and bio happens to be the one used much more frequently. Mech would probably be much less successful overall if Zergs blindly assumed mech and not bio. Buy saying it's far less viable is like saying 11/11 is a bad build just because it won't work if you do 11/11 only. I don't understand your comparison. 11/11 is a strategy. Mech is a unit composition. You can have many strategies with mech but it really doesn't change that it's inferior to Bio in most case. I explained it. If you play like you were blindly expecting mech, you are going to have much easier time vs it, than if you were expecting bio (eg. Soulkey vs Gumiho or Life vs ForGG in CaseKing Invitational), because all "standard" builds are tailored to deal with bio while taking mech into consideration. The same way 11/11 works if it's not expected. Mech openings aren't that different from each other and there's plenty of stuff you can do to shut them down. So how does that has anything to do with my point that mech is inferior to bio in most case? I'm saying it's not inferior, it's just easier to hard counter. It can actually be stronger than bio when not expected. aside from roach/nydus or, obviously, roach drops, what would you do to counter it? normal 1/1 roach or 2 base muta isn't actually good vs mech
Soulkey beat Gumiho pretty hard with roaches and queens.
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So this is David Kim. He's pretty famous.
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On April 05 2015 03:17 Fran_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:16 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On April 05 2015 03:15 Fran_ wrote:
Very poor macro out of Polt this time. Yeah, I feel like Polt's supply block early on set him very far behind. That, and floating 1500 minerals while pushing.
Polt's macro was never the greatest. I think people said his macro was at a Master's level?
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EPT
