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On March 30 2015 03:29 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:28 Charoisaur wrote:On March 30 2015 03:26 Alchemik wrote:On March 30 2015 03:24 Charoisaur wrote:On March 30 2015 03:21 Alchemik wrote:On March 30 2015 03:19 Charoisaur wrote:
disgusting protoss has an ability that scales so well with skill that the better player has a huge advantage.
pls fix blizzard i should be allowed to beat players that are better than me. no-one's annoyed by it being a skillful spell, people are annoyed by there being no counter play aside from going burrow roaches if you're ahead "We've talked about our stance on Force Fields in the past, and it still remains unchanged. We feel like we get a lot of feedback from forums saying there's no micro anyone can do against Force Fields. However, we just don't see this. For example, why do Zerglings or roaches try to bait out Force Fields if micro against them is not possible? Terran players picking off units on one side of Force Fields and dropping them on the more favorable side is another good example. We believe Force Fields are a very unique ability that sometimes feel there was nothing you could do, but that is okay because there are varying degrees of successes and failures. That is just StarCraft: If DTs come in when I have no detectors I'm dead, but that doesn't mean there was nothing I could have done." because those Zerglings and Roaches hope Protoss screws up, and it's also not micro intensive in the slightest david kim disagrees with you What's the point? He also allowed Daedalus 1.0 into the map pool^^
an experiment to show if protoss is still dependable on a small ramp.
nothing wrong with that
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On March 30 2015 03:17 Psychonian wrote:Poll: Forcefields?Broken (31) 55% Fine as they are (16) 29% Fine as they are, but the map pool makes them too abusable (5) 9% Will be fine after Ravagers come (4) 7% 56 total votes Your vote: Forcefields? (Vote): Broken
(Vote): Will be fine after Ravagers come
(Vote): Fine as they are
(Vote): Fine as they are, but the map pool makes them too abusable
this is the last time i'll quote it i swear
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On March 30 2015 03:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:28 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:25 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:23 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:22 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 30 2015 03:17 Topin wrote:On March 30 2015 03:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 30 2015 03:13 Chexx wrote:
I am really curious why ForceFields/Sentries havent been touched in ages. Basically unlimited Terrain modifier is op as shit Blizzard thinks they're good game design because they can "be baited out and forces micro", even though they are by design anti-micro and you can't bait out 10 sentries worth of FFs. "but you can micro around it" or something like that by DK Full david kim quote "We've talked about our stance on Force Fields in the past, and it still remains unchanged. We feel like we get a lot of feedback from forums saying there's no micro anyone can do against Force Fields. However, we just don't see this. For example, why do Zerglings or roaches try to bait out Force Fields if micro against them is not possible? Terran players picking off units on one side of Force Fields and dropping them on the more favorable side is another good example. We believe Force Fields are a very unique ability that sometimes feel there was nothing you could do, but that is okay because there are varying degrees of successes and failures. That is just StarCraft: If DTs come in when I have no detectors I'm dead, but that doesn't mean there was nothing I could have done." - DK, 2014 I really want to know how much David Kim gets paid to do absolutely nothing but say how the game is perfectly balanced. There hasn't been a single balance patch in almost 8 months and this guy probably gets paid more than anyone in this thread lol why would you want a balance patch when all 3 races are doing about the same? it's not league of legends When there isn't a single patch for this long the game just becomes so stale it almost isn't worth watching/playing. There are just too many hard counters in SC2 for the game to be interesting without patching like BW uhh my history knowledge is rusty but wtf are you talking about BW wasn't patched at all for most (all?) of its competitive life span that's what I thought, does he mean that the non-patches made BW boring? that's what confuses me
BW was interesting without patching was what I was trying to say
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On March 30 2015 03:30 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:29 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 03:28 Charoisaur wrote:On March 30 2015 03:26 Alchemik wrote:On March 30 2015 03:24 Charoisaur wrote:On March 30 2015 03:21 Alchemik wrote:On March 30 2015 03:19 Charoisaur wrote:
disgusting protoss has an ability that scales so well with skill that the better player has a huge advantage.
pls fix blizzard i should be allowed to beat players that are better than me. no-one's annoyed by it being a skillful spell, people are annoyed by there being no counter play aside from going burrow roaches if you're ahead "We've talked about our stance on Force Fields in the past, and it still remains unchanged. We feel like we get a lot of feedback from forums saying there's no micro anyone can do against Force Fields. However, we just don't see this. For example, why do Zerglings or roaches try to bait out Force Fields if micro against them is not possible? Terran players picking off units on one side of Force Fields and dropping them on the more favorable side is another good example. We believe Force Fields are a very unique ability that sometimes feel there was nothing you could do, but that is okay because there are varying degrees of successes and failures. That is just StarCraft: If DTs come in when I have no detectors I'm dead, but that doesn't mean there was nothing I could have done." because those Zerglings and Roaches hope Protoss screws up, and it's also not micro intensive in the slightest david kim disagrees with you What's the point? He also allowed Daedalus 1.0 into the map pool^^ an experiment to show if protoss is still dependable on a small ramp. nothing wrong with that
An 'experiment' that was used in pro play and thus flawed a lot of tournaments and qualifiers. (although it saved us from a Protoss only Code S)
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On March 30 2015 03:31 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:28 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:25 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:23 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:22 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 30 2015 03:17 Topin wrote:On March 30 2015 03:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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Blizzard thinks they're good game design because they can "be baited out and forces micro", even though they are by design anti-micro and you can't bait out 10 sentries worth of FFs. "but you can micro around it" or something like that by DK Full david kim quote "We've talked about our stance on Force Fields in the past, and it still remains unchanged. We feel like we get a lot of feedback from forums saying there's no micro anyone can do against Force Fields. However, we just don't see this. For example, why do Zerglings or roaches try to bait out Force Fields if micro against them is not possible? Terran players picking off units on one side of Force Fields and dropping them on the more favorable side is another good example. We believe Force Fields are a very unique ability that sometimes feel there was nothing you could do, but that is okay because there are varying degrees of successes and failures. That is just StarCraft: If DTs come in when I have no detectors I'm dead, but that doesn't mean there was nothing I could have done." - DK, 2014 I really want to know how much David Kim gets paid to do absolutely nothing but say how the game is perfectly balanced. There hasn't been a single balance patch in almost 8 months and this guy probably gets paid more than anyone in this thread lol why would you want a balance patch when all 3 races are doing about the same? it's not league of legends When there isn't a single patch for this long the game just becomes so stale it almost isn't worth watching/playing. There are just too many hard counters in SC2 for the game to be interesting without patching like BW uhh my history knowledge is rusty but wtf are you talking about BW wasn't patched at all for most (all?) of its competitive life span that's what I thought, does he mean that the non-patches made BW boring? that's what confuses me BW was interesting without patching was what I was trying to say
How could people find BW interesting with those graphics alwayaays baffled me. Can't even see anything
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On March 30 2015 03:31 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:28 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:25 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:23 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:22 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 30 2015 03:17 Topin wrote:On March 30 2015 03:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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Blizzard thinks they're good game design because they can "be baited out and forces micro", even though they are by design anti-micro and you can't bait out 10 sentries worth of FFs. "but you can micro around it" or something like that by DK Full david kim quote "We've talked about our stance on Force Fields in the past, and it still remains unchanged. We feel like we get a lot of feedback from forums saying there's no micro anyone can do against Force Fields. However, we just don't see this. For example, why do Zerglings or roaches try to bait out Force Fields if micro against them is not possible? Terran players picking off units on one side of Force Fields and dropping them on the more favorable side is another good example. We believe Force Fields are a very unique ability that sometimes feel there was nothing you could do, but that is okay because there are varying degrees of successes and failures. That is just StarCraft: If DTs come in when I have no detectors I'm dead, but that doesn't mean there was nothing I could have done." - DK, 2014 I really want to know how much David Kim gets paid to do absolutely nothing but say how the game is perfectly balanced. There hasn't been a single balance patch in almost 8 months and this guy probably gets paid more than anyone in this thread lol why would you want a balance patch when all 3 races are doing about the same? it's not league of legends When there isn't a single patch for this long the game just becomes so stale it almost isn't worth watching/playing. There are just too many hard counters in SC2 for the game to be interesting without patching like BW uhh my history knowledge is rusty but wtf are you talking about BW wasn't patched at all for most (all?) of its competitive life span that's what I thought, does he mean that the non-patches made BW boring? that's what confuses me BW was interesting without patching was what I was trying to say
okay that's what I thought. i disagree tho with the original point, I think the meta has shown very clear shifts and changes in all matchups over the past few months. I still think patching and constant development is good (i mean hell they're completely changing the hosts) but I think that the competitive scene doesn't need Blizzard to constantly change things about the game and that they can adapt and shift the way the game is played. It's interesting and very doable imo
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they should just take protoss out of the game
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On March 30 2015 03:42 KelsierSC wrote:
they should just take protoss out of the game
hydra just sucks lol why dont you get it
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On March 30 2015 03:45 Fuell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:42 KelsierSC wrote:
they should just take protoss out of the game hydra just sucks lol why dont you get it
Yeah, Life would've won and Zerg is IMBA, right?
Hydra is actually really good.
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On March 30 2015 03:56 Weavel wrote:
Salt is real.
Grats PartinG! Well deserved 
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PartinG finally got the Soulkey off his back? o.O
PartinG's vengeance is complete.
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On March 30 2015 03:32 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:31 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:28 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:25 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:23 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:22 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 30 2015 03:17 Topin wrote:
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"but you can micro around it" or something like that by DK Full david kim quote "We've talked about our stance on Force Fields in the past, and it still remains unchanged. We feel like we get a lot of feedback from forums saying there's no micro anyone can do against Force Fields. However, we just don't see this. For example, why do Zerglings or roaches try to bait out Force Fields if micro against them is not possible? Terran players picking off units on one side of Force Fields and dropping them on the more favorable side is another good example. We believe Force Fields are a very unique ability that sometimes feel there was nothing you could do, but that is okay because there are varying degrees of successes and failures. That is just StarCraft: If DTs come in when I have no detectors I'm dead, but that doesn't mean there was nothing I could have done." - DK, 2014 I really want to know how much David Kim gets paid to do absolutely nothing but say how the game is perfectly balanced. There hasn't been a single balance patch in almost 8 months and this guy probably gets paid more than anyone in this thread lol why would you want a balance patch when all 3 races are doing about the same? it's not league of legends When there isn't a single patch for this long the game just becomes so stale it almost isn't worth watching/playing. There are just too many hard counters in SC2 for the game to be interesting without patching like BW uhh my history knowledge is rusty but wtf are you talking about BW wasn't patched at all for most (all?) of its competitive life span that's what I thought, does he mean that the non-patches made BW boring? that's what confuses me BW was interesting without patching was what I was trying to say How could people find BW interesting with those graphics alwayaays baffled me. Can't even see anything
I advise you an eyes check
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Gotta love this.
Terran wins a gsl, omg the game is so balanced, it's amazing how balanced the game is.
Zerg wins a gsl, omg it's amazing because while the game is pretty balanced, zerg is slightly weaker, so Life is just amazing.
Protoss wins a random small tournament, omg fuck fuck fuck that's disgusting.
No. You're disgusting.
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On March 30 2015 04:07 Nebuchad wrote:
Gotta love this.
Terran wins a gsl, omg the game is so balanced, it's amazing how balanced the game is.
Zerg wins a gsl, omg it's amazing because while the game is pretty balanced, zerg is slightly weaker, so Life is just amazing.
Protoss wins a random small tournament, omg fuck fuck fuck that's disgusting.
No. You're disgusting.
well, a loser like parting shouldn't be able to even take a map of a world class player like hydra.
What do you expect? should we just accept that the better player lost?
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On March 30 2015 04:07 Nebuchad wrote:
Gotta love this.
Terran wins a gsl, omg the game is so balanced, it's amazing how balanced the game is.
Zerg wins a gsl, omg it's amazing because while the game is pretty balanced, zerg is slightly weaker, so Life is just amazing.
Protoss wins a random small tournament, omg fuck fuck fuck that's disgusting.
No. You're disgusting.
Its just the anti-protoss bias from people that doesn't like to doge storms or are used to a-move roach-hydra. Nothing new.
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On March 29 2015 20:33 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 20:22 Serimek wrote: Victoire Top 2 Top 4 Top 8
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PartinG 37.30% 12.57% 21.91% 28.22%
Hydra 21.11% 25.94% 26.05% 26.89%
Rain 18.16% 11.75% 37.95% 32.14%
Rogue 12.46% 19.49% 33.50% 34.55%
Soulkey 4.76% 8.59% 14.87% 71.78%
TRUE 2.72% 8.96% 22.87% 65.45%
Heart 1.85% 7.47% 17.57% 73.11%
jjakji 1.63% 5.24% 25.27% 67.86% PartinG 3 ┐
├───── PartinG 3 ┐
Soulkey 1 ┘ │
├───── PartinG 4 ┐
Rain 3 ┐ │ │
├──────── Rain 2 ┘ │
jjakji 2 ┘ │
├─ PartinG
Rogue 3 ┐ │
├─────── Rogue 2 ┐ │
TRUE 2 ┘ │ │
├─────── Hydra 2 ┘
Heart 1 ┐ │
├─────── Hydra 3 ┘
Hydra 3 ┘ Aligulac is getting a bit ridiculous. Hydra's MMR is bloated from stomping foreigners --> Aligulac expects him to do well in every tournament ever.
Aligulac was spot on though. :p
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On March 30 2015 04:06 palexhur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:32 GumBa wrote:On March 30 2015 03:31 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:28 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:25 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:23 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:22 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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Full david kim quote
"We've talked about our stance on Force Fields in the past, and it still remains unchanged. We feel like we get a lot of feedback from forums saying there's no micro anyone can do against Force Fields. However, we just don't see this. For example, why do Zerglings or roaches try to bait out Force Fields if micro against them is not possible? Terran players picking off units on one side of Force Fields and dropping them on the more favorable side is another good example. We believe Force Fields are a very unique ability that sometimes feel there was nothing you could do, but that is okay because there are varying degrees of successes and failures. That is just StarCraft: If DTs come in when I have no detectors I'm dead, but that doesn't mean there was nothing I could have done." - DK, 2014 I really want to know how much David Kim gets paid to do absolutely nothing but say how the game is perfectly balanced. There hasn't been a single balance patch in almost 8 months and this guy probably gets paid more than anyone in this thread lol why would you want a balance patch when all 3 races are doing about the same? it's not league of legends When there isn't a single patch for this long the game just becomes so stale it almost isn't worth watching/playing. There are just too many hard counters in SC2 for the game to be interesting without patching like BW uhh my history knowledge is rusty but wtf are you talking about BW wasn't patched at all for most (all?) of its competitive life span that's what I thought, does he mean that the non-patches made BW boring? that's what confuses me BW was interesting without patching was what I was trying to say How could people find BW interesting with those graphics alwayaays baffled me. Can't even see anything I advise you an eyes check
He's quoting Petraeus.
I hope.
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On March 30 2015 04:16 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 04:06 palexhur wrote:On March 30 2015 03:32 GumBa wrote:On March 30 2015 03:31 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:28 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 30 2015 03:25 Solar424 wrote:On March 30 2015 03:23 Ej_ wrote:On March 30 2015 03:22 Solar424 wrote:
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I really want to know how much David Kim gets paid to do absolutely nothing but say how the game is perfectly balanced. There hasn't been a single balance patch in almost 8 months and this guy probably gets paid more than anyone in this thread lol why would you want a balance patch when all 3 races are doing about the same? it's not league of legends When there isn't a single patch for this long the game just becomes so stale it almost isn't worth watching/playing. There are just too many hard counters in SC2 for the game to be interesting without patching like BW uhh my history knowledge is rusty but wtf are you talking about BW wasn't patched at all for most (all?) of its competitive life span that's what I thought, does he mean that the non-patches made BW boring? that's what confuses me BW was interesting without patching was what I was trying to say How could people find BW interesting with those graphics alwayaays baffled me. Can't even see anything I advise you an eyes check He's quoting Petraeus. I hope.
rofl did Petraeus actually say that?
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