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Cut down on the balance/design whining please.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
March 14 2015 21:16 GMT
#4281
On March 15 2015 06:15 Shellshock wrote:
I can't believe zest is going to the final after the awful series against hydra

zest didnt deserve to make it here...this shit is getting me as salty as Oz...do you have any idea how salty that is?
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 14 2015 21:16 GMT
#4282
poor terran, it is not your fault this game looks so imbalanced sometimes
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
March 14 2015 21:16 GMT
#4283
SC2 has truly come a long way. These strats are just so sophisticated
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 14 2015 21:16 GMT
#4284
On March 15 2015 06:16 D-light wrote:
Simply outclassed.

Wow
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4285
Im almost throwing my note on the wall because of this bullshit...
:3
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4286
I hope its a PvP finale, so I don't feel the need to tune in.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12323 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4287
On March 15 2015 06:16 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:28 Rollora wrote:
lelelelel.
If you don't want to actually engage the enemy create a wall that prevents his army to do anything.

Forcefields must be the most hated spell in the game :D

I seriously doubt the designer who made it was sane, as it can't be a good Idea to make a game that is about war and strategy and then invent a spell that makes you win without war and strategy (well if you count blocking units it could be called a valuable strategy).
I really don't get so many design decisions about protoss. The forcefileds, the colossus (as an easy to use, High-damage-output AOE unit that needs no skill, I always thought such units shouldn't exist) and the warpins. And the many allins and bullshit tactics possible around this.

They always make me hate the protoss race so much, I don't watch the games with toss anymore.
While I understand it takes skill to use all these abilities to the max, Blizzard knows from the very early days of sc2 that there is a lot of hate about all that and so many people are frustrated because of these abilities.

I don't understand why blizzard doesn't want to change that 2/3 of the players are frustrated with the game. Of course every race is a little bit frustrated about 1-2 things about the other race (Fungals or Widow Mines) but with protoss there are SO MANY things to get frustrated about. I really don't understand why that can't be changed. Propably because Protoss would be less a technical race and more a mechanical, but this would make playing and watching it more fun. Like: having more powerful gateway units but not being required to have so many powerful spells.

And yeah, I guess I am salty, since this guy killed 2 of my favorite terrans with bullshit and stuff that make me mad about toss (because they seem to be easier to execute than to defend against) and now also one of the best zergs.
Allins shouldn't be THAT strong, srsly. And from a failed allin in the beginning you shouldn't be able to come back like that.

And yeah, I do understand that Trap played phenomenal, he wouldn't be able to beat Flash, Fantasy and Dark if he didn't.
Still, I hate these abilities, I wished Trap showed some phenomenal macro games without all that stuff.


You, and it seems the entirety of reddit, are so fucking mad right now. I get it though, FFs are dumb and have been dumb since day 1

I stand by what I said: Trap is extremely skillful, it takes a lot of skill to use the abilities he has.
But I'd rather not have them in the game.
They are simply stupid, as you say. A cast should do damage or whatever. It should NEVER be able to prevent an opponent from being able to do something. It should never prevent skill to succeed.
And that is what Forcefields and some other abilities do and that is why I am mad about the game ever since the first day.
Ever since I first played SC2, and tried to outmultitask my opponents, outmacro and outmicro him (I started as Terran, went on from then) and then the opponent pushes a single button and has the right unit composition, moves his army ball over my bunkers or over my well positioned army but gets feedbacks/Storms off before I get my EMPs off... whatever.... just frustration. Even though it might be balanced in Korean GM, this is being more and more imbalanced the more you go down the ladder.
And then we might have a game that is balanced on pro level (which is 0.01 % of the players) but the other 99.9 Percent are unhappy.


Does it ever shock you that you're criticizing the capacity to not engage armies in a game that has medivac drops and muta base trades?
No will to live, no wish to die
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4288
This stupid cheese randomness does not belong into a competitive game.
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4289
actually ...
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24235 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4290
... is Bbyong alive ?
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4291
horrible ... only artosis could love this series
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4292
Honestly, I can see Bbyong winning this if he plays his cards right
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17686 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4293
On March 15 2015 06:16 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:15 Shellshock wrote:
I can't believe zest is going to the final after the awful series against hydra

Should've been TANGTANG in the finals

yes please
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24235 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4294
On March 15 2015 06:17 Zealously wrote:
Honestly, I can see Bbyong winning this if he plays his cards right

Same
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4295
zest too scared to even try and play a macro game
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4296
I wish they didn't took out the extra range of the banshee in LotV, only then they could be compared to DTs
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4297
On March 15 2015 06:17 Zealously wrote:
Honestly, I can see Bbyong winning this if he plays his cards right

Idd, he isn't out quite yet
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#4298
On March 15 2015 06:17 Zealously wrote:
Honestly, I can see Bbyong winning this if he plays his cards right

Yeah, same here. He just needs to win vs. his mind now.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 14 2015 21:18 GMT
#4299
On March 15 2015 06:17 Rollora wrote:
I hope its a PvP finale, so I don't feel the need to tune in.

Hopefully GSL final will be PvP too so you won't have to watch that either.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 14 2015 21:18 GMT
#4300
On March 15 2015 06:16 Beakyboo wrote:
SC2 has truly come a long way. These strats are just so sophisticated


I think the last ever professional game of brood war (the most sophisticated game ever) ended with a DT rush build.

Might be wrong about that. maybe it was the last OSL game or something
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