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On February 22 2015 06:54 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:53 Shellshock wrote:On February 22 2015 06:52 Zzzapper wrote:On February 22 2015 06:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
anybody know the stats? I feel like there was some TvT with a ridiculous amount of worker kills but I'm not sure I remember a gumiho game with over 100 killed by both terrans against Ryung I think? but it was before WCS or maybe it was Keen. It was some game on entombed valley back in WoL There was Ryung vs The_StC in WCS 2013 and lots died in that one
Lucifron vs Someone had a ton of worker deaths from hellbats as well. WCS 2013 iirc.
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On February 22 2015 06:54 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 22 2015 06:51 Jazzman88 wrote:On February 22 2015 06:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 22 2015 06:49 Heartland wrote:
If you can win a Dreamhack you can compete in the GSL. something something taeja And of course Life lost to ForGG at Dreamhack, so clearly Life is Code B level. Gotta love those cherries. i dont actually think taeja's a bad player, i just think the argument doesn't stand up 100%. TaeJa had decent result in gsl 2 RO4 if I recall. That's not exactly bad.
that was in 2012 tho
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When was the last time we saw a group without seeing Overgrowth played even once?
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what about that mma vs stephano game at an MLG.
Not sure how many drones died i know stephano got raped though
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On February 22 2015 06:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a group without seeing Overgrowth played even once?
WCS 2014 season 1.
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On February 22 2015 06:56 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it... How is that ForGG's fault? Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1. SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath. As has already been pointed out, ForGG probably thought that Firecake was broke because ForGG had mined so much of the map before Firecake got to it. Are we really going to disqualify someone for acting on imperfect information in a game which prohibits having perfect information? You can make the case that he held out for some time after the realization that he can't trade away to a draw sets in, but then you're also making a case for disqualifying someone based on what you assume is going on in their head with no proof. That's an extremely bad precedent.
A player of his caliber, with his experience, his results, and having used the ridiculous number of scans that he did, is absolutely incapable of a level of incompetence to believe that he could have won the game from that position.
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On February 22 2015 06:56 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it... How is that ForGG's fault? Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1. SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath. As has already been pointed out, ForGG probably thought that Firecake was broke because ForGG had mined so much of the map before Firecake got to it. Are we really going to disqualify someone for acting on imperfect information in a game which prohibits having perfect information? You can make the case that he held out for some time after the realization that he can't trade away to a draw sets in, but then you're also making a case for disqualifying someone based on what you assume is going on in their head with no proof. That's an extremely bad precedent.
No we cannot DQ people left and right on loose accusations, it would be totally unfair of course. Especially in WCS. I'm still down though. 
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On February 22 2015 06:58 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:56 Jazzman88 wrote:On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it... How is that ForGG's fault? Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1. SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath. As has already been pointed out, ForGG probably thought that Firecake was broke because ForGG had mined so much of the map before Firecake got to it. Are we really going to disqualify someone for acting on imperfect information in a game which prohibits having perfect information? You can make the case that he held out for some time after the realization that he can't trade away to a draw sets in, but then you're also making a case for disqualifying someone based on what you assume is going on in their head with no proof. That's an extremely bad precedent. A player of his caliber, with his experience, his results, and having used the ridiculous number of scans that he did, is absolutely incapable of a level of incompetence to believe that he could have won the game from that position.
again , can you truly be mad though because if he hadn't you wouldn't be here writing that post.
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On February 22 2015 06:56 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:54 Heartland wrote:
I think I've become unable to enjoy "properly" played sc2 and can only enjoy swarmhost games or cheese. stockholm syndrom clearly
I think Blizzard's plan is to tap into the Bronze League Heroes fanbase
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they should just let me admin WCS and only zergs are allowed through cos protoss and terran so ez race no skill chobo.
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On February 22 2015 06:59 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:56 Jazzman88 wrote:On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it... How is that ForGG's fault? Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1. SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath. As has already been pointed out, ForGG probably thought that Firecake was broke because ForGG had mined so much of the map before Firecake got to it. Are we really going to disqualify someone for acting on imperfect information in a game which prohibits having perfect information? You can make the case that he held out for some time after the realization that he can't trade away to a draw sets in, but then you're also making a case for disqualifying someone based on what you assume is going on in their head with no proof. That's an extremely bad precedent. No we cannot DQ people left and right on loose accusations, it would be totally unfair of course. Especially in WCS. I'm still down though.
God you are really reasonable.
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On February 22 2015 06:59 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:58 Circumstance wrote:On February 22 2015 06:56 Jazzman88 wrote:On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it... How is that ForGG's fault? Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1. SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath. As has already been pointed out, ForGG probably thought that Firecake was broke because ForGG had mined so much of the map before Firecake got to it. Are we really going to disqualify someone for acting on imperfect information in a game which prohibits having perfect information? You can make the case that he held out for some time after the realization that he can't trade away to a draw sets in, but then you're also making a case for disqualifying someone based on what you assume is going on in their head with no proof. That's an extremely bad precedent. A player of his caliber, with his experience, his results, and having used the ridiculous number of scans that he did, is absolutely incapable of a level of incompetence to believe that he could have won the game from that position. again , can you truly be mad though because if he hadn't you wouldn't be here writing that post.
What on earth are you even talking about?
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Oh a robo on two bases, true sign of a highskill build.
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On February 22 2015 06:54 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it... How is that ForGG's fault? Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1. SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath. I don't like what we saw yesterday either. I want to make that clear. This match and what we had yesterday is really making it difficult for me. I love the game and I love WCS, but the last two days have really shown the worst matches ever for me. I couldn't even see the last series yesterday due to the previous stalemates taking so long to finish. I respect players that try to do everything they can to win in WCS, because this is it, the big thing, and they own it to themselves, their sponsors and teams etc to do anything to win. If Happy thinks he has the best chance to go mech vs zerg he really should do so every game, even if it takes 2 hours per map. It is, as you say, Blizzard's fault for allowing this kind of game-play. That being said, what ForGG did now went well beyond a stalemate between SH and mech. He had lost one hour before he finally gave up. So yeah, SH vs mech yesterday + today's nonsense really didn't make my weekend. So far below my expectations. but would you have made such a post had he not done that? I dunno you made some good points. what's done is done though. I hate forGG tonight but timorrow it will be cool.
I would have made many small happy posts instead of a long miserable one if he had not done it. 
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On February 22 2015 06:58 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:56 Jazzman88 wrote:On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it... How is that ForGG's fault? Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1. SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath. As has already been pointed out, ForGG probably thought that Firecake was broke because ForGG had mined so much of the map before Firecake got to it. Are we really going to disqualify someone for acting on imperfect information in a game which prohibits having perfect information? You can make the case that he held out for some time after the realization that he can't trade away to a draw sets in, but then you're also making a case for disqualifying someone based on what you assume is going on in their head with no proof. That's an extremely bad precedent. A player of his caliber, with his experience, his results, and having used the ridiculous number of scans that he did, is absolutely incapable of a level of incompetence to believe that he could have won the game from that position.
I don't believe he was playing for a win, but a draw. You're also making the judgement based on the viewer's perfect information plus the analysis of casters, players on twitter, etc. So, no, it's still bad policy to disqualify a player because you think he was stalling in a position where the logical goal of playing for a draw might be in his mind. Again, unless you think we should disqualify people who are trying to do everything to not lose, which is terrible.
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Veterans when was the last time we had a thread this salty?
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On February 22 2015 06:59 KelsierSC wrote:
they should just let me admin WCS and only zergs are allowed through cos protoss and terran so ez race no skill chobo.
The first time I watched competive BW I thought T was the only race played at high level cause the whole tourney was almost 100% terran.
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On February 22 2015 07:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Veterans when was the last time we had a thread this salty?
i dunno like the last time two different races played a game of starcraft probably.
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On February 22 2015 06:59 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 06:59 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:56 Jazzman88 wrote:On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it... How is that ForGG's fault? Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1. SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath. As has already been pointed out, ForGG probably thought that Firecake was broke because ForGG had mined so much of the map before Firecake got to it. Are we really going to disqualify someone for acting on imperfect information in a game which prohibits having perfect information? You can make the case that he held out for some time after the realization that he can't trade away to a draw sets in, but then you're also making a case for disqualifying someone based on what you assume is going on in their head with no proof. That's an extremely bad precedent. No we cannot DQ people left and right on loose accusations, it would be totally unfair of course. Especially in WCS. I'm still down though. God you are really reasonable.
Alright! DQ him on sight! Pitchforks forward! Burn burn burn!
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On February 22 2015 07:01 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 07:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Veterans when was the last time we had a thread this salty? i dunno like the last time two different races played a game of starcraft probably.
Well played. I like the cut of your jib.
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