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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#1741
On February 22 2015 06:51 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:49 Heartland wrote:
If you can win a Dreamhack you can compete in the GSL.

something something taeja


And of course Life lost to ForGG at Dreamhack, so clearly Life is Code B level. Gotta love those cherries.

Helps him set up for his double champion ship in a month.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#1742
On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it...


How is that ForGG's fault?

Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1.


SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath.

I don't like what we saw yesterday either. I want to make that clear. This match and what we had yesterday is really making it difficult for me. I love the game and I love WCS, but the last two days have really shown the worst matches ever for me. I couldn't even see the last series yesterday due to the previous stalemates taking so long to finish. I respect players that try to do everything they can to win in WCS, because this is it, the big thing, and they own it to themselves, their sponsors and teams etc to do anything to win. If Happy thinks he has the best chance to go mech vs zerg he really should do so every game, even if it takes 2 hours per map. It is, as you say, Blizzard's fault for allowing this kind of game-play. That being said, what ForGG did now went well beyond a stalemate between SH and mech. He had lost one hour before he finally gave up. So yeah, SH vs mech yesterday + today's nonsense really didn't make my weekend. So far below my expectations.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
February 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#1743
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#1744
puck should win if he scouts properly

can't imagine how on tilt FCK is right now.
Zerg for Life
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-21 21:54:01
February 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#1745
On February 22 2015 06:52 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:

anybody know the stats?

I feel like there was some TvT with a ridiculous amount of worker kills but I'm not sure

I remember a gumiho game with over 100 killed by both terrans against Ryung I think? but it was before WCS

or maybe it was Keen. It was some game on entombed valley back in WoL
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
February 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#1746
I'm rooting for Puck, but I do feel bad for FireCake, because he should not be the person Puck beats in this series.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
hborrgg
Profile Joined February 2015
United States888 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-21 21:54:30
February 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#1747
On February 22 2015 06:52 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:51 DJHelium wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:45 DJHelium wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:43 Ketch wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:37 KelsierSC wrote:
It is amusing what Terran is allowed to get away with

zerg margins so thin.

Oh well. There's a reason this guy was too scared to play in Korea.


Dude you post a lot of shit for someone with that postcount


good story


Well why do you think the reason he moved was because he was scared?


if you think you can compete and win the GSL you go and play in the GSL.

plus you can play in proleague if you are in Korea.

I don't think forgg's style translates well to GSL or proleague because if you have time to study his build(s) then you can probably take him out easily.


Many of the GSL's best players moved to foreign soil. Maybe it's not because they are scared, but more that they want to travel and see the world?

For sure I would like going to EU/US a ton more than spending 14h/day training in a team house, even if it means I'm not the best in the world. Compare careers of players like HyuN and MC to Kespa players like Cure or Rogue and I think the former ones are the ones I would choose to be.

Is it "fair"? I dunno, but it's not the players responsibility. And I for sure don't think MC/HyuN/Innovation/MMA etc were scared, more likely attracted to easier money and more travels.


yeh but the thread is more fun when you talk a bit of mad shit.

I'll say, during the swarmhost game everyone stopped watching and started posting so there was something like 2 new pages every time i refreshed.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 21 2015 21:54 GMT
#1748
puck you dirty toss player. this is your one opportunity. your one chance. give it all you got
rip passion
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 21 2015 21:54 GMT
#1749
On February 22 2015 06:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:51 Jazzman88 wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:49 Heartland wrote:
If you can win a Dreamhack you can compete in the GSL.

something something taeja


And of course Life lost to ForGG at Dreamhack, so clearly Life is Code B level. Gotta love those cherries.

i dont actually think taeja's a bad player, i just think the argument doesn't stand up 100%.

TaeJa had decent result in gsl 2 RO4 if I recall. That's not exactly bad.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 21 2015 21:54 GMT
#1750
On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it...


How is that ForGG's fault?

Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1.


SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath.

I don't like what we saw yesterday either. I want to make that clear. This match and what we had yesterday is really making it difficult for me. I love the game and I love WCS, but the last two days have really shown the worst matches ever for me. I couldn't even see the last series yesterday due to the previous stalemates taking so long to finish. I respect players that try to do everything they can to win in WCS, because this is it, the big thing, and they own it to themselves, their sponsors and teams etc to do anything to win. If Happy thinks he has the best chance to go mech vs zerg he really should do so every game, even if it takes 2 hours per map. It is, as you say, Blizzard's fault for allowing this kind of game-play. That being said, what ForGG did now went well beyond a stalemate between SH and mech. He had lost one hour before he finally gave up. So yeah, SH vs mech yesterday + today's nonsense really didn't make my weekend. So far below my expectations.


but would you have made such a post had he not done that?

I dunno you made some good points. what's done is done though. I hate forGG tonight but timorrow it will be cool.
Zerg for Life
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
February 21 2015 21:54 GMT
#1751
On February 22 2015 06:53 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:52 Zzzapper wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
https://twitter.com/Aks_Ajit/status/569249839797575680
anybody know the stats?

I feel like there was some TvT with a ridiculous amount of worker kills but I'm not sure

I remember a gumiho game with over 100 killed by both terrans against Ryung I think? but it was before WCS

or maybe it was Keen. It was some game on entombed valley back in WoL


There was Ryung vs The_StC in WCS 2013 and lots died in that one
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 21 2015 21:54 GMT
#1752
I think I've become unable to enjoy "properly" played sc2 and can only enjoy swarmhost games or cheese.
chiasmus
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
February 21 2015 21:55 GMT
#1753
On February 22 2015 06:51 hborrgg wrote:
Viewer count was 5K higher during the swarmhost match.


It's sort of like how you'll get way more attention to a baseball or basketball game if a giant brawl breaks out. It's an exceptional situation that's both kind of appalling and impossible to look away from.

KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 21 2015 21:55 GMT
#1754
i do want puCK to make it far in WCS but I also want FireCake to win, with SwarmHosts preferably. Rough day for him.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 21 2015 21:55 GMT
#1755
On February 22 2015 06:53 hborrgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:51 DJHelium wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:45 DJHelium wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:43 Ketch wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:37 KelsierSC wrote:
It is amusing what Terran is allowed to get away with

zerg margins so thin.

Oh well. There's a reason this guy was too scared to play in Korea.


Dude you post a lot of shit for someone with that postcount


good story


Well why do you think the reason he moved was because he was scared?


if you think you can compete and win the GSL you go and play in the GSL.

plus you can play in proleague if you are in Korea.

I don't think forgg's style translates well to GSL or proleague because if you have time to study his build(s) then you can probably take him out easily.


Many of the GSL's best players moved to foreign soil. Maybe it's not because they are scared, but more that they want to travel and see the world?

For sure I would like going to EU/US a ton more than spending 14h/day training in a team house, even if it means I'm not the best in the world. Compare careers of players like HyuN and MC to Kespa players like Cure or Rogue and I think the former ones are the ones I would choose to be.

Is it "fair"? I dunno, but it's not the players responsibility. And I for sure don't think MC/HyuN/Innovation/MMA etc were scared, more likely attracted to easier money and more travels.


yeh but the thread is more fun when you talk a bit of mad shit.

I'll say, during the swarmhost game everyone stopped watching and started posting so there was something like 2 new pages every time i refreshed.


yeh dude you got all these terrans trying to get under your skin with shit like "this is justice" because forGG beats firecake...like woo you fucking got me.
Zerg for Life
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
February 21 2015 21:56 GMT
#1756
On February 22 2015 06:53 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:32 SixStrings wrote:
On February 22 2015 06:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I just completely lost the interest in the entire series and this whole group. Screw this. Seriously. Sorry Puck, it's not your fault, neither is it Sen's or FireCake's, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it? I'll be back tomorrow, hoping for some real Starcraft. In the meantime, if I don't see ForGG ever again, I won't write any lengthy lamentations about it...


How is that ForGG's fault?

Blame Blizzard for being stubborn enough going through with Swarmhosts, although the pro-gamer feedback has been overwhelmingly negative since day 1.


SH had nothing to do with parking your inferior army with no resources behind a small ramp, trying nothing to win, obviously losing, wasting 30k viewers time for one hour. And we have to live with this jerk in the Ro16. I hope someone is able to file a valid complaint about this resulting in a disqualification, but I'm not holding my breath.



As has already been pointed out, ForGG probably thought that Firecake was broke because ForGG had mined so much of the map before Firecake got to it. Are we really going to disqualify someone for acting on imperfect information in a game which prohibits having perfect information? You can make the case that he held out for some time after the realization that he can't trade away to a draw sets in, but then you're also making a case for disqualifying someone based on what you assume is going on in their head with no proof. That's an extremely bad precedent.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 21 2015 21:56 GMT
#1757
dw guys

at least 2 more firecake games to come
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 21 2015 21:56 GMT
#1758
On February 22 2015 06:55 chiasmus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 06:51 hborrgg wrote:
Viewer count was 5K higher during the swarmhost match.


It's sort of like how you'll get way more attention to a baseball or basketball game if a giant brawl breaks out. It's an exceptional situation that's both kind of appalling and impossible to look away from.



I thought the hope of that happening was the only reason people watched sports
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 21 2015 21:56 GMT
#1759
puck seems to always do this 13-gate into 17 nexus build.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 21 2015 21:56 GMT
#1760
On February 22 2015 06:54 Heartland wrote:
I think I've become unable to enjoy "properly" played sc2 and can only enjoy swarmhost games or cheese.

stockholm syndrom clearly
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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