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Discussion of Naniwa's mental health (unless you know him personally or you email me your phd diploma) after page 96 will be dealt with severely. I suggest you talk about the games instead.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
January 10 2015 00:16 GMT
#1521
On January 10 2015 09:14 pigmanbear wrote:
I will say I thought Happy's bunkers were random when he didn't scout the immortals or any tech.

I'm reasonably sure he saw more sentries than is typical in a PvT, especially on that map.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 10 2015 00:16 GMT
#1522
Hahaha Happy
"Sec, let me run the stream in background"
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
January 10 2015 00:16 GMT
#1523
Basetrade is going to be the only stream that's allowed to watch. I think that's only fair, it should not happen that a stream has no delay at all. If a stream does that they shouldn't be allowed to view the game.
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1524
Every caster but basetrade fired :D
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Homunculus159
Profile Joined December 2014
Austria220 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1525
Now only bastrade is allowed to cast the game lol
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1526
On January 10 2015 09:16 TheDwf wrote:
Hahaha Happy
"Sec, let me run the stream in background"

Ahahahahaha
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1527
On January 10 2015 09:09 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 09:07 Rollora wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:02 KeksX wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:01 Rollora wrote:
On January 10 2015 08:55 Legio wrote:
Naniwas play is so clean. Its amazing how he can keep his level up without going to Korea for practice.

Protoss is mechanically less demanding and is more about the abilities of your units...


Bold statement lol.

I'd especially like to know how unit control does not count into mechanics.

well the unit control of a protoss is less micro intense then that of a terran.
Less splitting, positioning, focusing, stutter stepping, moving in from several sides (concave vs ball)... it is how terran works: you have more but fragile units and the playstyle is you don't just keep up with macro by muling but by constant harassing. The multitasking on several fronts... several things that make Terran more mobile but also they HAVE to be more mobile to do small damages over and over again, being aware and prepared for techswitches -> leads to more mechanically demanding game from the player. But not so much "thinking" and adapting as the protoss
I did never say its easy for any of both

The part with the mechanics: it is something Artosis and others said repeatedly


So how exactly is Protoss less mechanically demanding due to lower requirements on unit control when unit control does not count into mechanics? I just don't really follow that logic... I know you're trying to balance whine or anything I'm just not seeing what you wanna say.

you mean i am NOT balance whining.
And I didn't say it is NOT counting into mechanic i just said it is less micro intense therefore less mechanical as the terran.
I showed you this in the example above:
"Less splitting, positioning, focusing, stutter stepping, moving in from several sides (concave vs ball)... it is how terran works: you have more but fragile units and the playstyle is you don't just keep up with macro by muling but by constant harassing. The multitasking on several fronts..."

On January 10 2015 09:03 Bojas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 09:02 KeksX wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:01 Rollora wrote:
On January 10 2015 08:55 Legio wrote:
Naniwas play is so clean. Its amazing how he can keep his level up without going to Korea for practice.

Protoss is mechanically less demanding and is more about the abilities of your units and the unit mix then terran.
So if you take a break and still watch the game/think about it you are on very high level still and soon back to your old strengths


Bold statement lol

Why? I don't mean that it matters balance wise, or to balance-whine, but Protosses have on average less effective apm than players from the other races.

thx, yeah.
I have analyzed like 500 pro games in sc2gears and protoss require like 25-30% less APM/EAPM especially during fights.
And of course, since I am no pro-player, I have that opinion also assured by several statements of artosis and other casters who I consider that they have a clue about the game (not: Wolf).
My ladder experience of both races (I play random) has nothing to do with it, I try to be as objective as it can get for a couple of months now since before that, it constantly brought me warnings (didn't even matter that I said something against every race :D )
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1528
God I'm glad to have tuned in for this qualifier; It's ep.. no legendary!!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1529
On January 10 2015 09:16 Bojas wrote:
Basetrade is going to be the only stream that's allowed to watch. I think that's only fair, it should not happen that a stream has no delay at all. If a stream does that they shouldn't be allowed to view the game.

yeah agree
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7165 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1530
Wow, theyre actually going with Naniwas whining? Stupid.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1531
seriously. even idra admitted that most of his rage was basically his own bad mindset. naniwa should get dq'ed.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1532
On January 10 2015 09:14 pigmanbear wrote:
I will say I thought Happy's bunkers were random when he didn't scout the immortals or any tech.

Maybe thats because your skill level in sc2 is too low.
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 00:17:55
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1533
Please Happy win this one and you will be our hero!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#1534
Hahaha Happy

[image loading]
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
January 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#1535
Nice, everybody trusts Rifkin
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#1536
Get ready to see some rage if Nani loses I guess :D
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#1537
All this because of Naniwa and the russian stream not having delay...?
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5612 Posts
January 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#1538
Naniwa as outrageous as ever...
don't wall off against random
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
January 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#1539
On January 10 2015 09:16 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 09:14 Quateras wrote:
Definetely not a fan of Nani, but have to kind of agree with him , happy's decision making with the Bunkers was really really weird.
On take tv they showed his vision when he started building his 2 bunkers + 3rd and 4th and all he saw was 1 sentry and the nexus + a random pylon, no tech nothing.

As I mentioned above, this is Happy's standard playstyle against protoss on Nimbus.
CC first, bunker up at entrance.

If you watched his daily stream you'd know.


He started the 3rd and 4th bunker when he scv got killed nearly in front of his base by immortal/sentry. But the read was good to begin with, yes.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#1540
why can't u stream with 2 Mintes delay??
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