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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 11 2015 18:21 GMT
#481
On January 12 2015 03:19 ssregitoss wrote:
this expantion is for protoss.so everything must favor protoss.


Protoss wins in campaign.
Protoss wins in multiplayer
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 11 2015 18:21 GMT
#482
On January 12 2015 03:21 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:18 Big J wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:10 TheDwf wrote:
Well, it seems their first move in LotV beta will be to nerf Tempests so we can actually see Protoss ground units


I don't even know, in PvZ with corruptors hard countering colossi based compositions so hard I'm not sure which ground composition we could go into. Maybe storm could become a thing again with current swarm hosts gone, but I think carriers will be the goal of most Protoss.

Dirsuptors are pretty good, they can hunt down any zerg army. Then pick it up from 6range and retreat. That's what Mana has been doing all the time when he was trying the mod.


Ah, yeah, always forget about that unit. Probably.

Though there has been a vast nerf on them since that I think (I think it was before the nerf).

What was the nerf?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
January 11 2015 18:22 GMT
#483
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2015 18:23 GMT
#484
Hahahaha
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 11 2015 18:23 GMT
#485
Crank got ravaged
Neosteel Enthusiast
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 11 2015 18:24 GMT
#486
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Why are swarm hosts good as gone? I was under the impression that although there's no more autocast/rally, locusts are just as good as ever, if not better.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
DuduSC
Profile Joined May 2014
Afghanistan193 Posts
January 11 2015 18:24 GMT
#487
On January 12 2015 03:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Crank got ravaged


:D
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
January 11 2015 18:24 GMT
#488
That was ridiculous
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 11 2015 18:24 GMT
#489
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Like my sig btw?
DuduSC
Profile Joined May 2014
Afghanistan193 Posts
January 11 2015 18:24 GMT
#490
On January 12 2015 03:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Why are swarm hosts good as gone? I was under the impression that although there's no more autocast/rally, locusts are just as good as ever, if not better.


SHs are higher tech units and games are ending quite fast. (the upgrade requires hive if I am not mistaken)
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
January 11 2015 18:25 GMT
#491
On January 12 2015 03:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Why are swarm hosts good as gone? I was under the impression that although there's no more autocast/rally, locusts are just as good as ever, if not better.


Are they ? I thought they had been severely nerfed and didn't work at all in big masses now.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 11 2015 18:25 GMT
#492
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Well i think their basic concept (more action, faster action) is a very good thing. I am not sure if they will achieve it completely, but these games we see currently aren't really a good indicator, even though it's all we have really :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
January 11 2015 18:25 GMT
#493
On January 12 2015 03:24 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Like my sig btw?


yeah buddy ^^
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 11 2015 18:26 GMT
#494
On January 12 2015 03:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Why are swarm hosts good as gone? I was under the impression that although there's no more autocast/rally, locusts are just as good as ever, if not better.

well, we'll most likely not see Swarm Hosts ever again
Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
January 11 2015 18:26 GMT
#495
Does anyone still remember the maps of the second semifinals as well as the first map of the finals?
Thank you
LiquipediaLickyPiddy manager
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2015 18:27 GMT
#496
On January 12 2015 03:26 Clubfan wrote:
Does anyone still remember the first map of the finals?
Thank you

God's Garden
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 11 2015 18:27 GMT
#497
On January 12 2015 03:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:21 Big J wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:18 Big J wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:10 TheDwf wrote:
Well, it seems their first move in LotV beta will be to nerf Tempests so we can actually see Protoss ground units


I don't even know, in PvZ with corruptors hard countering colossi based compositions so hard I'm not sure which ground composition we could go into. Maybe storm could become a thing again with current swarm hosts gone, but I think carriers will be the goal of most Protoss.

Dirsuptors are pretty good, they can hunt down any zerg army. Then pick it up from 6range and retreat. That's what Mana has been doing all the time when he was trying the mod.


Ah, yeah, always forget about that unit. Probably.

Though there has been a vast nerf on them since that I think (I think it was before the nerf).

What was the nerf?

The cooldown was changed. It was like 10seconds previously and now it's 30 or so :D
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 11 2015 18:27 GMT
#498
On January 12 2015 03:26 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Why are swarm hosts good as gone? I was under the impression that although there's no more autocast/rally, locusts are just as good as ever, if not better.

well, we'll most likely not see Swarm Hosts ever again

Well, we obv need playtesting with Stephano and Firecake.
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olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
January 11 2015 18:28 GMT
#499
On January 12 2015 03:26 Clubfan wrote:
Does anyone still remember the maps of the second semifinals as well as the first map of the finals?
Thank you

Crank vs Heart
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Events Manager, Team Liquid - Creator of OlimoLeague
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-11 18:30:02
January 11 2015 18:29 GMT
#500
On January 12 2015 03:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2015 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't like the brand of PvZ we just saw. OK it may not be worse than swarm hosts, but it's really lame too.

Haha i like how you don't seem to like anything lotv related :D


Oh, I'm glad that swarm hosts are as good as gone and that carriers got some love. Otherwise most concepts leave me sceptical, and the games we see don't help me getting more optimistic.

Well i think their basic concept (more action, faster action) is a very good thing. I am not sure if they will achieve it completely, but these games we see currently aren't really a good indicator, even though it's all we have really :D


As usual the intention is good. They had the same idea in mind when they introduced medivac boost and muta speed+regen, and those things helped destroy the game by forcing things like overcharge or +bio spore damage. So I don't care about the intention or the basic concept, what I care about is the quality of the game in the end -design as well as balance, though it's far too early to speak of balance. And those designs and concepts seem, for most of them, questionable at best.
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