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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
October 23 2014 13:36 GMT
#641
that kind of stuff made me gave up mutalisks vs mech and go full turtle with Corruptor/Spore/Viper instead.
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
October 23 2014 13:37 GMT
#642
GUMIHO!!! That game was epic... big mistakes by soo though
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 23 2014 13:37 GMT
#643
Wow Apollo has a bigger beard than Kaelaris
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 23 2014 13:37 GMT
#644
On October 23 2014 22:36 Keeemy wrote:
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On October 23 2014 22:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
God soO is playing like garbage but that game was so much fun !!!!

He played beautifully up until the decision to go for mass muta.


I'm being a bit harsh yeah, but that decision REALLY set my teeth on edge.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
October 23 2014 13:37 GMT
#645
In any other matchup/compositions soO would have just been able to keep attacking to take the win after getting such a huge advantage, denying the third while getting his 5th up. Not commenting on his choice to go for more mutas after that, but it's just boring that you have to play vs 4 base mech and can't really attack in to them, no matter if mech is actually good or not.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
October 23 2014 13:38 GMT
#646
I'm loving the heavy presence of Gumiho in weeklies and qualifiers, guy's looking in shape
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 23 2014 13:38 GMT
#647
On October 23 2014 22:36 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
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On October 23 2014 22:33 DJHelium wrote:
On October 23 2014 22:32 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
That Army would have rekt anything soO could build, except maybe Swarm Host or BL.


SH-spores-infestors-viper is good imo


Yes that's how you deal with mech, but when Gumiho is in your base it's pretty hard to remax on SH/Viper. ^^


Obviously a big mistake to let him get there.

When in the base like that, I'm not sure what's the best. Maybe ultras and just attack all at once. Or mass muta. It's a dicey situation for sure.
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J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
October 23 2014 13:39 GMT
#648
On October 23 2014 22:38 Wombat_NI wrote:
I'm loving the heavy presence of Gumiho in weeklies and qualifiers, guy's looking in shape

No kidding. Would love to see him make a deep run in some big tournaments, he has the skill for sure.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 23 2014 13:40 GMT
#649
On October 23 2014 22:38 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 22:36 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On October 23 2014 22:33 DJHelium wrote:
On October 23 2014 22:32 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
That Army would have rekt anything soO could build, except maybe Swarm Host or BL.


SH-spores-infestors-viper is good imo


Yes that's how you deal with mech, but when Gumiho is in your base it's pretty hard to remax on SH/Viper. ^^


Obviously a big mistake to let him get there.

When in the base like that, I'm not sure what's the best. Maybe ultras and just attack all at once. Or mass muta. It's a dicey situation for sure.

When he was building those mutas I was expecting hatcheries everywhere and base trade. I don't get the decision to fight the army ... oO
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
October 23 2014 13:40 GMT
#650
wow nice run by GuMiho
*burp*
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 23 2014 13:42 GMT
#651
On October 23 2014 22:37 Zheryn wrote:
In any other matchup/compositions soO would have just been able to keep attacking to take the win after getting such a huge advantage, denying the third while getting his 5th up. Not commenting on his choice to go for more mutas after that, but it's just boring that you have to play vs 4 base mech and can't really attack in to them, no matter if mech is actually good or not.


Hm sometimes I get the same feeling in TvP. You drop main while denying third, get your third up and get a big army. Then you get stormed once and just die to the 2 base push.

For sure it happens more often to me than to the pros (because my ghost control is non-existant), but it's not that uncommon among pros either.

And yeah, it's bad game design. The "3 base=max eco" (maybe 4 for gas intensive strategies like mech or mass muta) is so terrible. Would be my #1 change for LotV for sure.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
October 23 2014 13:43 GMT
#652
Seeing his play of late, plus being a fanboy anyway makes me sad in how little CJ used him in PL

Who's looking good this qualifier? Seen the bracket and looking at scores it seemed Rain really teared it up, soO likewise
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 23 2014 13:45 GMT
#653
I think he could have finished that CC. Couldn't he?
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 23 2014 13:46 GMT
#654
On October 23 2014 22:42 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 22:37 Zheryn wrote:
In any other matchup/compositions soO would have just been able to keep attacking to take the win after getting such a huge advantage, denying the third while getting his 5th up. Not commenting on his choice to go for more mutas after that, but it's just boring that you have to play vs 4 base mech and can't really attack in to them, no matter if mech is actually good or not.


Hm sometimes I get the same feeling in TvP. You drop main while denying third, get your third up and get a big army. Then you get stormed once and just die to the 2 base push.

For sure it happens more often to me than to the pros (because my ghost control is non-existant), but it's not that uncommon among pros either.

And yeah, it's bad game design. The "3 base=max eco" (maybe 4 for gas intensive strategies like mech or mass muta) is so terrible. Would be my #1 change for LotV for sure.

To me it is "1 emp and I am done" Every race has its own SHTF situations
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
October 23 2014 13:46 GMT
#655
On October 23 2014 22:43 Wombat_NI wrote:
Seeing his play of late, plus being a fanboy anyway makes me sad in how little CJ used him in PL

Who's looking good this qualifier? Seen the bracket and looking at scores it seemed Rain really teared it up, soO likewise

Rain looked absolutely on top of his game.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 23 2014 13:48 GMT
#656
soO is going 2 base mutalisk?
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-23 13:50:00
October 23 2014 13:49 GMT
#657
This is weird build. He getting stim but he keeps building vikings.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-23 13:50:27
October 23 2014 13:49 GMT
#658
That's how you defend 2 base muta, just run around the map.

On October 23 2014 22:49 royalroadweed wrote:
This is weird build. He getting stim but he keeps building vikings. wtf?


Standard Gumiho :D

But I think its a response to the 2 base muta. In lower numbers, vikings are quite good as a defense.
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
October 23 2014 13:51 GMT
#659
its the one of everything build, gumiho games are always crazy
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33507 Posts
October 23 2014 13:51 GMT
#660
this is such a gumiho build -- too bad every single unit he made is countered by queens
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