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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 29 2014 22:57 GMT
#4581
I remember when people said Life would struggle against Protoss in this tournament
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 29 2014 22:58 GMT
#4582
Life is out MCing MC
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
GaliX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany380 Posts
August 29 2014 22:58 GMT
#4583
oohh MC.... (
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 29 2014 22:58 GMT
#4584
On August 30 2014 07:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Damn it, and I have to leave soon, I will be plagued by doubt all evening.

Do it Scarlett!

You're so different from the other Templar.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 22:58 GMT
#4585
On August 30 2014 07:57 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:55 stuchiu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
MC vs. Flash rematch? If Flash wins the rematch, that would be awful x.x


I wonder if MC has more in the bag than what he's shown vsT

that's a trick question if i have ever seen one.


I was actually waiting for the Flash fans to jump on and say how he'd 2-0 MC. But I guess their faith was shaken.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 29 2014 22:58 GMT
#4586
On August 30 2014 07:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:54 Boucot wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:52 Penev wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:49 Zealously wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:48 Welmu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:41 Penev wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:38 Welmu wrote:
Little bit sad to see this amount of balance whine in TL :/

Flash tends to play constantly greedy as a standard play which is big weakness in his play and easily exploited by wise player like MC. MC made sure in 2nd game to see how Flash reacts to proxy Stargate play and adjusts last game accordingly to that making sure that Flash skips scanning Protoss base in this situation and having no idea what MC is doing behind proxy SG expecting standard play behind it and even moving out with his army for which MC's build is perfect counter to. If Flash had send his scouting scv straight to MC's natural to see his a bit late nexus timing he would've known its tech before Nexus but even in that situation I think Flash wouldn't have changed his build too much. Flash's play in SC2 has never been really good in tournaments where you dont have long time to prepare for specific match so I'm actually pretty suprised how people expect Flash to do very well in this IEM

Don't be misleaded by the vocal minority. Cool to see you post btw!

Haha I guess i'm just still used to BW days when I didn't really see balance whine at all and more player praise instead, or maybe I just have selective memory ^^


Balance whine is definitely more vocal now than say, five years ago. Cool to see you clear some misconceptions up though!


Its because Blizzard patches things. People get the impression that balance whining can affect patches, which wasn't a feeling you could get in BW.

That's a good point actually

There has never been any balance changes patches in Brood War ?


Not after 2001 I think.

Wow
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 29 2014 22:58 GMT
#4587
On August 30 2014 07:55 Loccstana wrote:
If only Scarlett planted a nydus worm into Flash's base... I think she forget she can do that.

i dont think she could actually have done that
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 22:58 GMT
#4588
Flash, asking for his ruler back.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4589
On August 30 2014 07:57 Zealously wrote:
I remember when people said Life would struggle against Protoss in this tournament


He only seems to lose to KeSPA protoss's
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
SWAT-Kat
Profile Joined July 2011
United States311 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4590
On August 30 2014 07:55 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:53 SWAT-Kat wrote:
So in order to beat swarm hosts, you need almost 20 medevacs and just squads of marines?


It's no different than bio vs mech in TvT abusing the immobility of tanks.


So maybe that's a possible way to deal with it? Flash seemed to stand right in the face of the swarm hosts and take the locusts head on. Then again, he did have a big upgrade advantage.
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4591
Why is Flash getting shit for the way he played? By being in Scarlett's face the entire time and having about 1000 missile turrents at home, he didn't allow her a single option besides defending, while he kept expanding behind it. He had ultimate map control and kept trading well enough to eventually choke her out. The way Flash is playing here, even against MC, is WAY better than his last couple of foreign showings.
Cute
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4592
Was that Flash's coach behind him talking to him? Or was it just some random tech guy?
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18413 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4593
On August 30 2014 07:57 Zealously wrote:
I remember when people said Life would struggle against Protoss in this tournament


No one can ever predict when Life suddenly turns on his monster mode ^^
Not even you
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4594
On August 30 2014 07:58 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:54 Boucot wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:52 Penev wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:49 Zealously wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:48 Welmu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:41 Penev wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:38 Welmu wrote:
Little bit sad to see this amount of balance whine in TL :/

Flash tends to play constantly greedy as a standard play which is big weakness in his play and easily exploited by wise player like MC. MC made sure in 2nd game to see how Flash reacts to proxy Stargate play and adjusts last game accordingly to that making sure that Flash skips scanning Protoss base in this situation and having no idea what MC is doing behind proxy SG expecting standard play behind it and even moving out with his army for which MC's build is perfect counter to. If Flash had send his scouting scv straight to MC's natural to see his a bit late nexus timing he would've known its tech before Nexus but even in that situation I think Flash wouldn't have changed his build too much. Flash's play in SC2 has never been really good in tournaments where you dont have long time to prepare for specific match so I'm actually pretty suprised how people expect Flash to do very well in this IEM

Don't be misleaded by the vocal minority. Cool to see you post btw!

Haha I guess i'm just still used to BW days when I didn't really see balance whine at all and more player praise instead, or maybe I just have selective memory ^^


Balance whine is definitely more vocal now than say, five years ago. Cool to see you clear some misconceptions up though!


Its because Blizzard patches things. People get the impression that balance whining can affect patches, which wasn't a feeling you could get in BW.

That's a good point actually

There has never been any balance changes patches in Brood War ?


Not after 2001 I think.

Wow


Basically saved by the players. Boxer, nada oov. Then Savior. Then Bisu.
Moderator
Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4595
That game only looked so close because Flash was trying to force the issue early because he knew he could.

If he didn't have the early advantage he would still be fine to play in a different way I think.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4596
On August 30 2014 07:59 Pandemona wrote:
Was that Flash's coach behind him talking to him? Or was it just some random tech guy?

Tech guy seems more likely.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#4597
On August 30 2014 07:59 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:57 Zealously wrote:
I remember when people said Life would struggle against Protoss in this tournament


He only seems to lose to KeSPA protoss's


Snute killed them all already, HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 29 2014 23:00 GMT
#4598
On August 30 2014 07:59 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:58 Boucot wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:54 Boucot wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:52 Penev wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:49 Zealously wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:48 Welmu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:41 Penev wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:38 Welmu wrote:
Little bit sad to see this amount of balance whine in TL :/

Flash tends to play constantly greedy as a standard play which is big weakness in his play and easily exploited by wise player like MC. MC made sure in 2nd game to see how Flash reacts to proxy Stargate play and adjusts last game accordingly to that making sure that Flash skips scanning Protoss base in this situation and having no idea what MC is doing behind proxy SG expecting standard play behind it and even moving out with his army for which MC's build is perfect counter to. If Flash had send his scouting scv straight to MC's natural to see his a bit late nexus timing he would've known its tech before Nexus but even in that situation I think Flash wouldn't have changed his build too much. Flash's play in SC2 has never been really good in tournaments where you dont have long time to prepare for specific match so I'm actually pretty suprised how people expect Flash to do very well in this IEM

Don't be misleaded by the vocal minority. Cool to see you post btw!

Haha I guess i'm just still used to BW days when I didn't really see balance whine at all and more player praise instead, or maybe I just have selective memory ^^


Balance whine is definitely more vocal now than say, five years ago. Cool to see you clear some misconceptions up though!


Its because Blizzard patches things. People get the impression that balance whining can affect patches, which wasn't a feeling you could get in BW.

That's a good point actually

There has never been any balance changes patches in Brood War ?


Not after 2001 I think.

Wow


Basically saved by the players. Boxer, nada oov. Then Savior. Then Bisu.

then Shine
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 29 2014 23:00 GMT
#4599
Anyone talking about how Flash brilliantly cornered a huge number of lings and banes at the lower-right corner of the map?
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 29 2014 23:00 GMT
#4600
lifuuuuuu
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