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On August 25 2014 05:10 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:09 Jono7272 wrote:
Stop calling it Championship Sunday. This isn't MLG No, it is really better than MLG.
Exactly. I don't want to be reminded of MLG while watching.
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On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.
Bring back the hellbats!
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Oh, it looks like Polt is behind, I guess he'll win.
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On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.
Really? I love TvT. I don't understand why everything is so hyper-aggressive in this particular meta (I'm a big proponent of 15-gas expands), but it's still a very razor-edged matchup that depends so much on your exquisite positioning and army movement.
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On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.
What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Hellbats?
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On August 25 2014 05:15 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. Bring back the hellbats!
it was better to play at least. just mechanical skill.
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On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?
Hellbat nerf. It was to give some other form of early agression
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On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?
hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.
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This is quite the rekking
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On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.
Exact same effectiveness of the tank buff in TvZ/TvP, too.
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On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:15 GumBa wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. Bring back the hellbats! it was better to play at least. just mechanical skill.
INno instantly wins every tournament he enters
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On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:15 GumBa wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. Bring back the hellbats! it was better to play at least. just mechanical skill.
One could argue that 4 gate PvP requires heavy mechanical skill.
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muta/ling/bling confirmed not viable what the hell was violet thinking
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Poll: Recommend Semifinal #1 Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 23% ★★★- Good game (7) 54% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 15% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Semifinal #1 Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.
which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss?
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On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss?
avilo?
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Violet mutilating and dismembering Polt. That's the way I like my Starcraft! 
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On August 25 2014 05:17 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. Exact same effectiveness of the tank buff in TvZ/TvP, too.
it was useful when 3 reapers build into hellion/banshee into turtle mech on heavy rain was doable (needed the upg merge buff with it tho)
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Canada8159 Posts
On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-) No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss?
have you not seen the proxy starport 2 banshee strategy?
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