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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
August 24 2014 20:14 GMT
#1401
On August 25 2014 05:10 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:09 Jono7272 wrote:
Stop calling it Championship Sunday. This isn't MLG

No, it is really better than MLG.

Exactly. I don't want to be reminded of MLG while watching.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 24 2014 20:15 GMT
#1402
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

Bring back the hellbats!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
wrier
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada291 Posts
August 24 2014 20:15 GMT
#1403
Oh, it looks like Polt is behind, I guess he'll win.
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 24 2014 20:15 GMT
#1404
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.


Really? I love TvT. I don't understand why everything is so hyper-aggressive in this particular meta (I'm a big proponent of 15-gas expands), but it's still a very razor-edged matchup that depends so much on your exquisite positioning and army movement.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 20:16:14
August 24 2014 20:15 GMT
#1405
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Hellbats?
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 24 2014 20:16 GMT
#1406
On August 25 2014 05:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

Bring back the hellbats!


it was better to play at least. just mechanical skill.
Zest fanboy.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 24 2014 20:16 GMT
#1407
On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?

Hellbat nerf. It was to give some other form of early agression
Neosteel Enthusiast
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 24 2014 20:16 GMT
#1408
On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?


hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.
Zest fanboy.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
August 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1409
This is quite the rekking
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1410
On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?


hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.


Exact same effectiveness of the tank buff in TvZ/TvP, too.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1411
On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:15 GumBa wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

Bring back the hellbats!


it was better to play at least. just mechanical skill.

INno instantly wins every tournament he enters
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1412
On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:15 GumBa wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

Bring back the hellbats!


it was better to play at least. just mechanical skill.


One could argue that 4 gate PvP requires heavy mechanical skill.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1413
muta/ling/bling confirmed not viable what the hell was violet thinking
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1414
Poll: Recommend Semifinal #1 Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
8%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
23%

★★★- Good game (7)
 
54%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Semifinal #1 Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1415
Woop woop.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1416
On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?


hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.


which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss?
Moderator
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 24 2014 20:18 GMT
#1417
On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?


hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.


which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss?


avilo?
KaneMX
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany151 Posts
August 24 2014 20:18 GMT
#1418
Violet mutilating and dismembering Polt. That's the way I like my Starcraft!
TokO: "Starcraft 2 is after all a game of 'being the bigger dick' to the opponent."
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 24 2014 20:18 GMT
#1419
On August 25 2014 05:17 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?


hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.


Exact same effectiveness of the tank buff in TvZ/TvP, too.


it was useful when 3 reapers build into hellion/banshee into turtle mech on heavy rain was doable (needed the upg merge buff with it tho)
Zest fanboy.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
August 24 2014 20:18 GMT
#1420
On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:31 mfo wrote:
Please let there be a tvt finals :-)


No thanks, TvT sucks these days.

Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time.


tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days

Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months?

Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.

Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins.


i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu.

What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats?


hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning.


which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss?


have you not seen the proxy starport 2 banshee strategy?
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
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