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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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No thanks, TvT sucks these days. Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc.
I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On August 25 2014 05:18 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
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Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? All the terrans in 2011. Let it go, Puma.
The og "runner" gotta get dat sweet foreign cash
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On August 25 2014 05:20 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:19 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
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Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Just invent a time travel machine and visit 2011 Idra, I come from 2014 to tell you two things: 1) Dont call your fans fucks. 2) Change to Protoss. Trust me!
hmm more stay Z and switch to P at hots 
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On August 25 2014 05:20 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:19 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
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Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Just invent a time travel machine and visit 2011 Idra, I come from 2014 to tell you two things: 1) Dont call your fans fucks. 2) Change to Protoss. Trust me!
Ohh I laughed quite a lot here in Sweden 
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On August 25 2014 05:19 Musicus wrote:
Very well play by Violet. Finally we see a zerg get agressive. 90% of TvZs, we just see the Terran go undisturbed until they are in the perfect position and start the endless push. It's always the Terran dictating the pace of the game these days.
That's just how Hots is designed.
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On August 25 2014 05:21 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:20 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:19 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
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tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Just invent a time travel machine and visit 2011 Idra, I come from 2014 to tell you two things: 1) Dont call your fans fucks. 2) Change to Protoss. Trust me! hmm more stay Z and switch to P at hots
"I play Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag" - Idra
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On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
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Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt.
Of what?
And I agree!
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On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
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Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt.
As a counter-point to that, I would sacrifice a lot more than that to have more than 1 style to play versus Protoss that actually makes use of Banshees.
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On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:On August 25 2014 04:33 jakethesnake wrote:
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Yeah. I've seen enough of the marine hellion mine 1 base play for a long time. tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt.
So does Marine tank v Marine tank late game or Marine tank v mech late game rarely happen nowadays?
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On August 25 2014 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
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tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. So does Marine tank v Marine tank late game or Marine tank v mech late game rarely happen nowadays?
almost never in marine tank vs marine tank, if somehow both players are equal in the mid game then it's doom drop time.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 25 2014 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
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tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. So does Marine tank v Marine tank late game or Marine tank v mech late game rarely happen nowadays?
Not rarely, but not nearly as much as it used to. It's pretty similar to ling/bling in that any mistake in the early mid game and you're instantly dead. But if they survive it gets pretty good.
But yea a shit load of doom drops cause of medivac boost.
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Canada8160 Posts
this is the bunny strategy
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On August 25 2014 05:23 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. So does Marine tank v Marine tank late game or Marine tank v mech late game rarely happen nowadays? almost never in marine tank vs marine tank, if somehow both players are equal in the mid game then it's doom drop time.
Which is amazing and hilarious when the players doom drop each other at the same time.
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On August 25 2014 05:23 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. So does Marine tank v Marine tank late game or Marine tank v mech late game rarely happen nowadays? Not rarely, but not nearly as much as it used to. It's pretty similar to ling/bling in that any mistake in the early mid game and you're instantly dead. But if they survive it gets pretty good.
but ling/bling goes into roaches and that's just awful
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On August 25 2014 05:23 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. So does Marine tank v Marine tank late game or Marine tank v mech late game rarely happen nowadays? Not rarely, but not nearly as much as it used to. It's pretty similar to ling/bling in that any mistake in the early mid game and you're instantly dead. But if they survive it gets pretty good.
Until one player loads upp 160 supply in Medivacs, shift clicks D on all of them and sends them into a gigantic turret defense and hope for the best.
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On August 25 2014 05:24 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:23 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
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Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.
Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. So does Marine tank v Marine tank late game or Marine tank v mech late game rarely happen nowadays? almost never in marine tank vs marine tank, if somehow both players are equal in the mid game then it's doom drop time. Which is amazing and hilarious when the players doom drop each other at the same time.
trade bases are cool since 2010. Like 2raxes
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 25 2014 05:22 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:10 Drake wrote:
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tvt nowadays worse then pvp was in his worst days Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. As a counter-point to that, I would sacrifice a lot more than that to have more than 1 style to play versus Protoss that actually makes use of Banshees.
TheBest, it's time to let it go.
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That gas steal is exactly the sort of thing a live, passionate crowd would react to.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 25 2014 05:24 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:23 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:
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Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs.
Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. So does Marine tank v Marine tank late game or Marine tank v mech late game rarely happen nowadays? Not rarely, but not nearly as much as it used to. It's pretty similar to ling/bling in that any mistake in the early mid game and you're instantly dead. But if they survive it gets pretty good. but ling/bling goes into roaches and that's just awful
Not when I play. I ling/bling for 20 minutes until I win!
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On August 25 2014 05:24 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 05:22 Jazzman88 wrote:On August 25 2014 05:21 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:20 DJHelium wrote:On August 25 2014 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On August 25 2014 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:15 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 25 2014 05:13 Glorfindel! wrote:On August 25 2014 05:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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Has TvT changed all that much in the past two or so months? Well its more like we actually get to see TvTs. Id say TvT today is so much about who makes most damage really early. Its hard to defend vs fast Cloaked banshees and speed medivacs with 2 tanks and 8 marines. Either that or other random fast drop-play tend to do very much early game damage and one player either gets very far ahead of straigh up wins. i wish they'd nerf cloack. It's almost useless outside of TvT and makes it such a shitty mu. What on earth was the reasoning behind lowering the cloak cost? I cant recall, but I think it was to balance up for something else? Mines? Hellbats? hellbat were nerfed and they wanted to give harassment option against free spores and overcharge. almost near the tank buff reasoning. which was kinda dumb to be honest. Who the fuck makes cloaked banshees vs Protoss? Maru did it vs herO in SPL. Map was Frost iirc. I suppose Maru did use it another time against Dear during a WCS Finals. But I'd of sacrificed those two games for a less volatile tvt. As a counter-point to that, I would sacrifice a lot more than that to have more than 1 style to play versus Protoss that actually makes use of Banshees. TheBest, it's time to let it go.
Dammit man, I've spent a lot of time dying to Oracles, I just want to make them feel the pain.
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