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KeksX
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On August 24 2014 04:56 Squat wrote: The problem is that it's too binary. In ZvT, if you are on creep, you're good, if not, you might as well not even try. It's too drastic of a difference. It should be a bonus, not mandatory. I'd argue it actually limits depth in its current implementation, because it restricts zerg so harshly in the late game. This pretty much applies for many things in the design theme of SC2, though. Force fields great/super bad, splits great/super bad etc, there's little inbetween. I agree that going towards "less harsher" differences in game mechanics might be good but I just don't see it being done without destroying the mechanic itself(see: nydus). | ||
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wUndertUnge
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On August 24 2014 04:57 wUndertUnge wrote: 8 mutas? that's gameending I retract my statement | ||
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Squat
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On August 24 2014 04:59 KeksX wrote: This pretty much applies for many things in the design theme of SC2, though. Force fields great/super bad, splits great/super bad etc, there's little inbetween. I agree that going towards "less harsher" differences in game mechanics might be good but I just don't see it being done without destroying the mechanic itself(see: nydus). Creep would be far easier to tune than forcefields and splits. They are not comparable. Any speed bonus is good, creep spread would still be beneficial. I think that is a false fear, creep could easily be relevant without being binary. | ||
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nkr
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It was game ending, just not in illusions favor! | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:56 Squat wrote: The problem is that it's too binary. In ZvT, if you are on creep, you're good, if not, you might as well not even try. It's too drastic of a difference. It should be a bonus, not mandatory. I'd argue it actually limits depth in its current implementation, because it restricts zerg so harshly in the late game. Theorycraft: what is there was a hive upgrade where all your units would have the creep bonus while Hive is still alive. It would have to be something that opposing armies could take out, otherwise it would be super OP | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:01 Squat wrote: Creep would be far easier to tune than forcefields and splits. They are not comparable. Any speed bonus is good, creep spread would still be beneficial. I think that is a false fear, creep could easily be relevant without being binary. How so? If you buff the speed off creep so that you don't need creep anymore, I can see it being used as regularly as Nydus(e.g. not worth the investment, much rather get extra lings instead of queens for creep or save energy for transfuse), and if you don't buff it enough and creep spread would still be much better then I think it would still stay binary. Depends on what you want to achieve though, if you're only talking about ZvT with Terran BioMine it seems like it's really hard to not make it binary since it's already a really close case. | ||
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TaeJa casting a PvP? THAT is a must-watch. | ||
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