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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 20 2014 18:51 GMT
#621
That was a terrible engagement. SCVs all at the back
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 20 2014 18:51 GMT
#622
On August 21 2014 03:51 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
10%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
 
60%

★★★- Good game (2)
 
20%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 18:52:43
August 20 2014 18:52 GMT
#623
Terran who don't pull scvs:
Taeja
Polt
Maru
Suno

Terrans who pull scvs:
Everyone else
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 20 2014 18:52 GMT
#624
Don't quote me on this, but I think we might see an SCV pull next game
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Don Jimbo
Profile Joined August 2014
70 Posts
August 20 2014 18:52 GMT
#625
On August 21 2014 03:49 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:49 Don Jimbo wrote:
Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year.

or maybe let the players work it out


Opening Colossus is working it out though. Pulling SCVs is also working it out. Both decisions are perfectly logical given the state of the game. So we can except to see a lot of Colossus openings and a lot of SCV pulls. The players will just try to get better at those things, which still won't be fun to watch even if you get 50/50 win rates in terrible, boring games.
When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 18:53:21
August 20 2014 18:52 GMT
#626
On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?

I feel like something is just wrong with that picture


Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. His opponent just wasn't prepared for the odd build.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 20 2014 18:52 GMT
#627
Why do you engage with the SCVs stuck behind =/
And clumping a good chunk of the vikings didnt help either
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 18:53:18
August 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#628
On August 21 2014 03:49 Don Jimbo wrote:
Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year. Those were the best TvP, PvT games ever.


You're neglecting the main reason why Terran players even do these SCV pulls in the first place.....
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#629
The spirit of BitbyBit lives on forever.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#630
I'd like to see a TvT. That'd be nice
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#631
On August 21 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
Terran who don't pull scvs:
Taeja
Polt
Maru
Suno

Terrans who pull scvs:
Everyone else

I've never seen Bbyong pull scvs
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 18:53:38
August 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#632
Bunny out in first, I believe.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#633
Suddenly they're distracted by the background
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#634
On August 21 2014 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
Terran who don't pull scvs:
Taeja
Polt
Maru
Suno

Terrans who pull scvs:
Everyone else

I've never seen Bbyong pull scvs


Oh you're right. That makes 5.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#635
On August 21 2014 03:53 Lorning wrote:
Suddenly they're distracted by the background

The banter is lacking.
Don Jimbo
Profile Joined August 2014
70 Posts
August 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#636
On August 21 2014 03:53 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:49 Don Jimbo wrote:
Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year. Those were the best TvP, PvT games ever.


You're neglecting the main reason why Terran players even do these SCV pulls in the first place.....


Because they work!
When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24226 Posts
August 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#637
On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?

I feel like something is just wrong with that picture


Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. His opponent just wasn't prepared for the odd build.


Yeah, this herO - Bbyong game was probably a one-time oddity between two teammates.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#638
On August 21 2014 03:54 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
On August 21 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
Terran who don't pull scvs:
Taeja
Polt
Maru
Suno

Terrans who pull scvs:
Everyone else

I've never seen Bbyong pull scvs


Oh you're right. That makes 5.

I lied. It's still 4
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#639
On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?

I feel like something is just wrong with that picture

Depends on engagements. If you decide to send your army to meat grinder in a row then no upgrades will save them.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#640
On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?

I feel like something is just wrong with that picture


Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem.


I guess the idea is more of even if you reverse the situation it still ends well for the protoss (when in theory the idea SHOULD be that the results are also flipped). And I understand WHY it worked, I just don't like it
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