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Belgica34432 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/lichter/wcs_banners_2014/wcseu2014.png) Wednesday, Aug 20 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_WCS_Season_3_Europe/Premier TL Preview: Click here
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png)  WCS EU WCS_DE |  WCS_FR |  WCS_PL |  WCS_ES |  WCS_RU |  WCS_IT |  WCS_PT
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1853.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1212.jpg)  San vs  MorroWStarting map: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2171.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/4369.jpg) ToD vs BunnyStarting map: Overgrowth
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [San vs MorroW] +Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 13% ★★★- Good game (9) 60% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 17% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 50% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 8% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 9% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 5% ★★★- Good game (10) 45% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 32% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 9% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 20% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 20% ★★★- Good game (8) 53% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 7% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 9% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 36% ★★★- Good game (4) 36% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 18% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8) 50% ★★★- Good game (5) 31% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 23% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 46% ★★★- Good game (2) 15% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 15% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 27% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 18% ★★★- Good game (3) 27% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 27% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 6% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5) 29% ★★★- Good game (10) 59% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 10% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 60% ★★★- Good game (2) 20% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11) 69% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 19% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 50% ★★★- Good game (2) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 13% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?Results are hidden by the poll creator.
6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?Results are hidden by the poll creator.
5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Head?San & Bunny (27) 75% San & MorroW (4) 11% San & ToD (3) 8% ToD & Bunny (2) 6% MorroW & ToD (0) 0% MorroW & Bunny (0) 0% 36 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): San & MorroW
(Vote): San & ToD
(Vote): San & Bunny
(Vote): MorroW & ToD
(Vote): MorroW & Bunny
(Vote): ToD & Bunny
Poll: Heart?ToD & Bunny (18) 46% San & Bunny (10) 26% San & ToD (7) 18% MorroW & Bunny (3) 8% MorroW & ToD (1) 3% San & MorroW (0) 0% 39 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): San & MorroW
(Vote): San & ToD
(Vote): San & Bunny
(Vote): MorroW & ToD
(Vote): MorroW & Bunny
(Vote): ToD & Bunny
Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Bunny 85.37% 51.83% 33.55% 10.35% 4.28%
San 80.42% 37.67% 42.76% 14.19% 5.38%
MorroW 22.98% 7.27% 15.71% 41.56% 35.46%
ToD 11.23% 3.24% 7.99% 33.90% 54.87%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
WCS Predictor 2014This match is important for   Bunny!WCS EU S3 Premier- Bunny is at ~ 23.08 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 72.78 % of the time Bunny wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 29.04 %. ~ 27.22 % of the time Bunny loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 7.14 %. ------------------------------------------------- -   San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 68.4 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 31.6 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- -  MorroW is at ~ 0.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 34.79 % of the time MorroW wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.01 %. ~ 65.21 % of the time MorroW loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %. ------------------------------------------------- - ToD is at ~ 0.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 24.02 % of the time ToD wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.03 %. ~ 75.98 % of the time ToD loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %.
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There's some history between ToD and Bunny, I remember ToD saying he always loses to Bunny agression some time ago, I'm quite excited about this match.
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Please Le Tod win this. 
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Obviously ToD will pull a Megaraser.
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oh shit will be tough for ToD, but of course rooting for ToD and Bunny!
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United States23455 Posts
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Bunny!
Hopefully Morrow as second but its probably San/Bunny
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your Country52797 Posts
What a group for ToD to get. I'll be rooting for him.
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ToD vs. San would be some sick PvP. If he did his HW, it'll be very interesting at the very least if the match comes up.
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Head: San & Bunny
<3: ToD & MorroW
Come what ever may.
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morrow's picture there reminds me so much of chester bennington
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Is ToD vacationing in the States or is he just doing Red Bull stuff and here for Detroit? Been over here for some time now.
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Morrow is only 22? Thought he would be like 5 years older, he has been arround in SC2 since forever :p
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On August 21 2014 01:03 BlackCompany wrote:
Morrow is only 22? Thought he would be like 5 years older, he has been arround in SC2 since forever :p
I was under the same impression.
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Oh shit, the only and true Man plays from korea... since Tod plays from NA as well, if the planets do align there's a chance for Morrow to arise as Morrowraiser...
Who am I kidding, San tops the group.
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On August 21 2014 01:04 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:03 BlackCompany wrote:
Morrow is only 22? Thought he would be like 5 years older, he has been arround in SC2 since forever :p I was under the same impression.
Yeah haha, i think i would make some terrible miss-calls if someone asked me to give an age to most players
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Morrow went full on Terran now as well correct? Not just race switching in ZvZ anymore?
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On August 21 2014 01:06 ThomasjServo wrote:
Morrow went full on Terran now as well correct? Not just race switching in ZvZ anymore?
yep fullterran
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Morrow... thats a name i havent heard in a long time
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On August 21 2014 01:07 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:06 ThomasjServo wrote:
Morrow went full on Terran now as well correct? Not just race switching in ZvZ anymore? yep fullterran
That is good, historically I remember having some wincing moments the last time I saw him play Zerg, he looked much more comfortable as Terran.
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San 2 - 0 MorroW
ToD 0 - 2 Bunny
MorroW 2 - 0 ToD
San 2 - 1 Bunny
MorroW 2 - 1 Bunny
Always rooting for Sweden, you can do this MorroW!
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
Does anybody know if San is in Europe? Also what is this black magic, I want to miss Tod's games, not San's games Full sad panda ><
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Hard not to see Bunny & San advance.
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On August 21 2014 01:13 deacon.frost wrote:Does anybody know if San is in Europe? Also what is this black magic, I want to miss Tod's games, not San's games Full sad panda ><
They speculated that he was in KR.
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On August 21 2014 01:08 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:07 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 01:06 ThomasjServo wrote:
Morrow went full on Terran now as well correct? Not just race switching in ZvZ anymore? yep fullterran That is good, historically I remember having some wincing moments the last time I saw him play Zerg, he looked much more comfortable as Terran.
I still feel he only switched to zerg because IdrA said "he will never win anything with Zerg". Morrow switched to Zerg and few months later he was in grandfinal (lost to ret), Dreamhack Spring 2011 I think.
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Lol the sun is setting on ToD according to Apollo.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:13 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:13 deacon.frost wrote:Does anybody know if San is in Europe? Also what is this black magic, I want to miss Tod's games, not San's games Full sad panda >< They speculated that he was in KR.
Thanks! I am still at work so I cannot follow the stream as I would like to 
Also - now I am frightened that San could not advance! I cannot live with another unpleasant surprise after today GSL group
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On August 21 2014 01:14 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:08 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 21 2014 01:07 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 01:06 ThomasjServo wrote:
Morrow went full on Terran now as well correct? Not just race switching in ZvZ anymore? yep fullterran That is good, historically I remember having some wincing moments the last time I saw him play Zerg, he looked much more comfortable as Terran. I still feel he only switched to zerg because IdrA said "he will never win anything with Zerg". Morrow switched to Zerg and few months later he was in grandfinal (lost to ret), Dreamhack Spring 2011 I think.
IdrA gonna IdrA, that would be funny if that was why Morrow did it. Just like how Incontrol picked Z in BW because he thought ultras looked cool.
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I got ToD and Bunny on liquibets. Don't fucking fail me guys. I need 'em points
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On August 21 2014 01:16 Noonius wrote:
I got ToD and Bunny on liquibets. Don't fucking fail me guys. I need 'em points
HB ! 
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
So, we have TvP, therefore we hear Zerg music, so every race is present! I like it 
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On August 21 2014 01:16 Noonius wrote:
I got ToD and Bunny on liquibets. Don't fucking fail me guys. I need 'em points
Hopefully you get that as a birthday present!
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On August 21 2014 01:16 Noonius wrote:
I got ToD and Bunny on liquibets. Don't fucking fail me guys. I need 'em points
Happy Birthday!
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
Now that's an outdated build!
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Someone watched how Myunsik played Overgrowth against INnoVation
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Bunny should turn off the autopilot. Second Starport and Vikings against a Templar opening...
Nvm, had not seen the single Colossus.
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On August 21 2014 01:21 deacon.frost wrote:
Now that's an outdated build!
has been working wonders lately. terrans just don't expect it.
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Blind SCV pull... come on Bunny you are smarter than that
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
They need some Genius rule. Every PvT build in EU eventually comes back to some random build Genius used to use.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:22 Undead1993 wrote:has been working wonders lately. terrans just don't expect it.
On a pro level? Cool cool cool
I play templar opening all the time on ladder, but I am nobody compared to Pros(even the EU pros :D)
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It's gonna be a stormy night for tha boys
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Bunny with the scouting fail. I sooo hope that ToD crushes this. Better unit comp by far.
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United States97276 Posts
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So Tod went storm without actually building HTs?
What is this game
ah there are the HTs
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On August 21 2014 01:23 Shellshock wrote:
Tod vs Bunny first?
"Technical problems"
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United States97276 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:24 ThomasjServo wrote:"Technical problems"
works for me. I thought I was going to miss some of San's games
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2 bases vs 25 workers. which is worse?
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On August 21 2014 01:24 BlackCompany wrote:
So Tod went storm without actually building HTs?
What is this game
ah there are the HTs
He had a bunch but only used two during the original engagement x.x Fortunately he's still ahead by a bit.
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oh that was messy by tod but still looks like enough
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On August 21 2014 01:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
2 bases vs 25 workers. which is worse?
25workers + 3Mules.
The point is rather that ToD had 20supply advantage.
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On August 21 2014 01:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
2 bases vs 25 workers. which is worse?
I think Bunny having MULEs is the key advantage
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ToD might be ahead here even after losing two bases 
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If the window isn't already closed, it is slowly closing.
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On August 21 2014 01:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:24 BlackCompany wrote:
So Tod went storm without actually building HTs?
What is this game
ah there are the HTs He had a bunch but only used two during the original engagement x.x Fortunately he's still ahead by a bit.
Yeah this is just super a wierd game so far
and somehow they ended up pretty even
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It's very rare to see a scv pull fail and the players emerging out quite even.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
I will die of laughing once Tod receive an EMP on all his templars :D
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Huh, I was expecting San vs. Morrow first, for some reason. Did something happen, or did I imagine the match order? O.o
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wp by ToD, good patience in engaging
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On August 21 2014 01:28 Rehio wrote:
Huh, I was expecting San vs. Morrow first, for some reason. Did something happen, or did I imagine the match order? O.o
Technical issues, they play this first
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after the initial fail this was pretty damn well played by tod. impressive
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On August 20 2014 22:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Obviously ToD will pull a Megaraser.
*ahem*
It begins now.
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On August 21 2014 01:28 Rehio wrote:
Huh, I was expecting San vs. Morrow first, for some reason. Did something happen, or did I imagine the match order? O.o
San went misssing but he has been found.
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On August 21 2014 01:28 Rehio wrote:
Huh, I was expecting San vs. Morrow first, for some reason. Did something happen, or did I imagine the match order? O.o
San pulled probes in both games for a quick 2-0 over Morrow
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Wow... really well played, Tod!
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Well played by ToD, his counter harass made Bunny fall apart.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 9% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 5% ★★★- Good game (10) 45% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 32% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 9% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Wow, very intense game. Bunny made some pretty big mistakes at the end though, forgetting parts of his army
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Meh, i want Bunny to advance.
but thank god this "pull SCVs and pray he went colossi" didnt work
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Was that replay? Because the winning screen didn't show up
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Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T?
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I thought ToD was dead, I am impressed by his resilience.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:30 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 9% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 5% ★★★- Good game (10) 45% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 32% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 9% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Why replay?
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i agree, why no victory screen?
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Why did you hide the results Lorning?
That was a weird game... Wonder why it's been casted from replay
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why did bunny scv pull vs templar first opening o.o
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On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T?
I've felt that Tod has done alright against Terran. Didn't he also beat Jjakji earlier this summer?
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Nevertheless the fact Bunny never scouted ToD's tricky 1 range-less colossus into templar style is disappointing (especially since ToD does that quite often). He made false assumptions, nearly got away with it, and paid the price in the end. I can deal with that.
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On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T?
ye he went out against bunny in some dreamhack after he came out on top of a 3 koreans group with jaedong in it.
after that he twittered something like "i just can't win against terran. GG bunny"
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Belgica34432 Posts
ToD might be at Red Bull this weekend, that's why they're casting replays. But I'm not sure
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T?
he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:31 Lorning wrote:
ToD might be at Red Bull this weekend, that's why they're casting replays. But I'm not sure
He is
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On August 21 2014 01:31 sharkie wrote:
why did bunny scv pull vs templar first opening o.o
Bad scouting (plus not templar first but very quick templars after 1 colossus without range, but right).
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United States97276 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons
Yeah but those win rates D:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RNPm4x8.png)
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So if these games are from replay, are all of the games? Hmmm.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Apollo and Kaeleris going through the test of Tastosis. How much can you bullshit when you have nothing to cast?
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: + Show Spoiler +
Wait, 54% overall, yet all of his match ups are under it. Beat a lot of random players?
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:33 stuchiu wrote:
Apollo and Kaeleris going through the test of Tastosis. How much can you bullshit when you have nothing to cast?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D:
Thats pretty good winrate tbh. He still hates it though from what I can tell.
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United States97276 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:33 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: + Show Spoiler + Wait, 54% overall, yet all of his match ups are under it. Beat a lot of random players?
looks like it's off by a 4-0 vs Random score
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On August 21 2014 01:31 sharkie wrote:
why did bunny scv pull vs templar first opening o.o
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Got tricked by the fake colo into Templar.
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On August 21 2014 01:33 stuchiu wrote:
Apollo and Kaeleris going through the test of Tastosis. How much can you bullshit when you have nothing to cast?
Impossible. Tastosis spews out more bullshit than your average politician
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On August 21 2014 01:33 stuchiu wrote:
Apollo and Kaeleris going through the test of Tastosis. How much can you bullshit when you have nothing to cast?
The second test: can you make a pun so bad someone actually commits sudoku in front of the screen.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:34 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:31 sharkie wrote:
why did bunny scv pull vs templar first opening o.o Got tricked by the fake colo into Templar.
He has finally gone full innovation
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:31 Faefae wrote:
Why did you hide the results Lorning?
That was a weird game... Wonder why it's been casted from replay
Experiments
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On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D:
set it to HOTS only and see what happens
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Hahaha that Artosis wink is so seductive. I'm feeling warm.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:35 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:33 stuchiu wrote:
Apollo and Kaeleris going through the test of Tastosis. How much can you bullshit when you have nothing to cast? Impossible. Tastosis spews out more bullshit than your average politician
"My wrists are kinda hurting. I played a lot of HearthStone yesterday" - Tasteless
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On August 21 2014 01:35 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:34 TheDwf wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 sharkie wrote:
why did bunny scv pull vs templar first opening o.o Got tricked by the fake colo into Templar. He has finally gone full innovation
The worrisome thing for ToD is he could realistically have lost even from a huge BO advantage, so if Bunny just focuses on diligent scouting...
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United States97276 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:36 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: set it to HOTS only and see what happens
good point drops to 48. But historically for his whole career like was asked wasn't that bad ^^ I definitely remember seeing/hearing that he hates this matchup though since HoTS
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:36 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:35 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:33 stuchiu wrote:
Apollo and Kaeleris going through the test of Tastosis. How much can you bullshit when you have nothing to cast? Impossible. Tastosis spews out more bullshit than your average politician "My wrists are kinda hurting. I played a lot of HearthStone yesterday" - Tasteless
I cant wait till the first HS pro gets carpel tunnel and is forced to use his foot to play.
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On August 21 2014 01:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:35 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:34 TheDwf wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 sharkie wrote:
why did bunny scv pull vs templar first opening o.o Got tricked by the fake colo into Templar. He has finally gone full innovation The worrisome thing for ToD is he could realistically have lost even from a huge BO advantage, so if Bunny just focuses on diligent scouting...
Well, no one knows where his 8 Templars were when Bunny attacked.
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On August 21 2014 01:33 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: + Show Spoiler + Wait, 54% overall, yet all of his match ups are under it. Beat a lot of random players?
Apparently 4 of them
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Have they acknowledged that they're casting replays?
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On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D:
His all-average win rate is higher than all of his individual win rates? :D
(His other three individual win totals and game totals don't add up to his All totals.)
Where's this math from?
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On August 21 2014 01:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: His all-average win rate is higher than all of his individual win rates? :D
A god.
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On August 21 2014 01:36 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: set it to HOTS only and see what happens
In HOTS he is:
All
54.74% (260/475)
vP
55.56% (80/144)
vT
48.15% (78/162)
vZ
59.88% (100/167)
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United States97276 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: His all-average win rate is higher than all of his individual win rates? :D (His other three individual win totals and game totals don't add up to his All totals.)
doesn't show wins vs random players which is 4-0 (when race wasn't known. aligulac typically specifies the race when it is known)
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:37 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 01:35 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:34 TheDwf wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 sharkie wrote:
why did bunny scv pull vs templar first opening o.o Got tricked by the fake colo into Templar. He has finally gone full innovation The worrisome thing for ToD is he could realistically have lost even from a huge BO advantage, so if Bunny just focuses on diligent scouting... Well, no one knows where his 8 Templars were when Bunny attacked.
Wherever Byun went.
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Tod doesnt care about your cloaked units that shoot once and have to recharge, he raises moving cloaked units with normal attacks
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On August 21 2014 01:40 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: His all-average win rate is higher than all of his individual win rates? :D (His other three individual win totals and game totals don't add up to his All totals.) doesn't show wins vs random players which is 4-0
Ah okay. I figured that would be included in whatever race the opponented Randomed into.
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On August 21 2014 01:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:40 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:30 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hasn't ToD historically not done too well against T? he hates it with a passion of 1000 archons Yeah but those win rates D: His all-average win rate is higher than all of his individual win rates? :D (His other three individual win totals and game totals don't add up to his All totals.) doesn't show wins vs random players which is 4-0 Ah okay. I figured that would be included in whatever race the opponented Randomed into.
yeah I edited. It's for cases where the race wasn't known. Otherwise the matches are entered with the race played. Like if it's some random bracket game that wasn't broadcasted they don't always know what races were played
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What was that non-reaction in his main...
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
ToD so fucking smart, he started praying to Inca and can thus win. Unlike Parting who only did it after he was down.
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Well seems like Bunny is returning the favor with those scans...
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Well Bunny's not in a good position
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Haha where is that big grin now
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Tinfoil hat is on:
Blizzard is making players play their games ahead of time and make them play as long as Blizzard gets the result they want. Then Blizz just picks the replays they need to fill out whatever BO that is and forwards them to ESL and says "play these in that order"
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So, I am thinking we see San vs. ToD.
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Wow excellent DT control by ToD.
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Bunny must have punched someone after this.
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wtf? at what time was this played? so many mistakes by bunny
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On August 21 2014 01:41 stuchiu wrote:
ToD so fucking smart, he started praying to Inca and can thus win. Unlike Parting who only did it after he was down.
That's the way to do it
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Oh fuck. I'm missing ToD winning?!?
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2 scans without killing any DTs? O_o
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What the hell are this games they are playing Tt
Lets see how plays slightly less bad
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oh my god I turn the stream on Bunny is getting Inca's by ToD (down 1 game no less). didn't expect that.
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On August 21 2014 01:42 Noonius wrote:
Tinfoil hat is on:
Blizzard is making players play their games ahead of time and make them play as long as Blizzard gets the result they want. Then Blizz just picks the replays they need to fill out whatever BO that is and forwards them to ESL and says "play these in that order"
wat
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are they casting the whole group from replays?
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On August 21 2014 01:41 stuchiu wrote:
ToD so fucking smart, he started praying to Inca and can thus win. Unlike Parting who only did it after he was down.
nah, ToD's too French for that
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:42 Undead1993 wrote:wtf? at what time was this played? so many mistakes by bunny
you mean they were played in advance by a few weeks or something?
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On August 21 2014 01:42 BlackCompany wrote:
What the hell are this games they are playing Tt
Lets see how plays slightly less bad
Foreigners represent!
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just tuned in (yes, heresy, I know). what the hell is this game...? o.o
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On August 21 2014 01:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
oh my god I turn the stream on Bunny is getting Inca's by ToD (down 1 game no less). didn't expect that.
ToD has been very clever and Bunny has been very careless this series.
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On August 21 2014 01:43 nkr wrote:
are they casting the whole group from replays?
Seems potentially how it has to be.
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On August 21 2014 01:43 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:42 Noonius wrote:
Tinfoil hat is on:
Blizzard is making players play their games ahead of time and make them play as long as Blizzard gets the result they want. Then Blizz just picks the replays they need to fill out whatever BO that is and forwards them to ESL and says "play these in that order"
wat
I'm quite sober atm, thank you very much
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
oh my god I turn the stream on Bunny is getting Inca's by ToD (down 1 game no less). didn't expect that.
Inca, unlike the Spanish Inquisition, should always be expected.
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On August 21 2014 01:43 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:42 Undead1993 wrote:wtf? at what time was this played? so many mistakes by bunny you mean they were played in advance by a few weeks or something?
nah i meant what time of the day it was. not that they played it weeks in advance
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ToD back off and expand again x.x
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why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays?
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone go chargless zealot archon
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:45 Shellshock wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen anyone go chargless zealot archon
me neither.
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Blahhh ToD lackluster attack. Can't do that without charge.
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does "getting Incaed" include winning in the end ? Bunny really messed up with the scans but was still (even without the dumb decision to archon all-in) in a good position.
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On August 21 2014 01:44 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:43 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:42 Undead1993 wrote:wtf? at what time was this played? so many mistakes by bunny you mean they were played in advance by a few weeks or something? nah i meant what day time it was. not that they played it weeks in advance
in hots beta. Just wait, Bunny will make a couple of warhounds soon
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
well he did great damage with the dts, but he couldnt make it into something.
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On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays?
Why are you watching the German stream and probably because the games have already been played?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
does "getting Incaed" include winning in the end ? Bunny really messed up with the scans but was still (even without the dumb decision to archon all-in) in a good position.
Inca can both win and lose. It's a mysterious force.
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Dang it Tod, I wanted that upset!
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 20% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 20% ★★★- Good game (8) 53% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 7% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Replays? =/
Can't say I'm too impressed by that, to be honest.
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On August 21 2014 01:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? Why are you watching the German stream and probably because the games have already been played?
Because the German stream is awesome! It has a ghost as co-caster!
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I wish ToD had transitioned into double upgrades and Storm after the DTs. That's what MC would do.
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That was such a weird attack with the archons
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At least the games are unusual, but after this morning GSL they really suffer from the comparison.
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On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays?
ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit.
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On August 21 2014 01:45 stuchiu wrote:
well he did great damage with the dts, but he couldnt make it into something.
9 probes from 1 widdow mine is also pretty rough
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On August 21 2014 01:46 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 20% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 20% ★★★- Good game (8) 53% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 7% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Is there an option yet to stop the poll from opening a new tab?
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I can understand that Tod has to go to Red Bull Battlegrounds, but why didn't he leave earlier and then played the games live from NA? WCS and replay casting, really?
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On August 21 2014 01:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Dang it Tod, I wanted that upset!
It's not over yet
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Those great multitasking skills by ToD
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On August 21 2014 01:45 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:44 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 01:43 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:42 Undead1993 wrote:wtf? at what time was this played? so many mistakes by bunny you mean they were played in advance by a few weeks or something? nah i meant what day time it was. not that they played it weeks in advance in hots beta. Just wait, Bunny will make a couple of warhounds soon
lol, can't wait to see some warhounds again! Happy berfday btw! 
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It's really impressive that ToD can do so well as a part time pro gamer. He would be the one true foreign hope if he played full time.
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On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit.
OK but if the other games aren't from replays (I guess so, otherwise why was San - Morrow delayed ?) how on earth is he going to play the other ones ? Did he just play this match to try and get the WCS points for a 3rd place in his group ?
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On August 21 2014 01:48 JustPassingBy wrote:I can understand that Tod has to go to Red Bull Battlegrounds, but why didn't he leave earlier and then played the games live from NA? WCS and replay casting, really?
I'm a little unsure of why it's a problem to cast replays if the results aren't getting spoiled and it's more convenient for the players.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
2 games in and they tell us its replays now, such a random timing to say it.
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United States97276 Posts
On August 21 2014 01:49 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:45 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:44 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 01:43 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:42 Undead1993 wrote:wtf? at what time was this played? so many mistakes by bunny you mean they were played in advance by a few weeks or something? nah i meant what day time it was. not that they played it weeks in advance in hots beta. Just wait, Bunny will make a couple of warhounds soon lol, can't wait to see some warhounds again! Happy berfday btw!
I'm sad I never got to use them. I remember watching Creator in the beta be GM terran going 5 fact warhound and taking his hands off the keyboard after a moving
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Wait until he has to hand his lap top to the chobo TSA.
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On August 21 2014 01:49 stuchiu wrote:
2 games in and they tell us its replays now, such a random timing to say it.
Yeah, would of made more sense to announce it at the start of the broadcast
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On August 21 2014 01:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. OK but if the other games aren't from replays (I guess so, otherwise why was San - Morrow delayed ?) how on earth is he going to play the other ones ? Did he just play this match to try and get the WCS points for a 3rd place in his group ?
I think the forced the whole group to be played beforehand, and I don't know how I feel about that...
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I wonder if caster know the results already
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On August 21 2014 01:50 ThomasjServo wrote:Wait until he has to hand his lap top to the chobo TSA.
He'll have to turn it off during takeoff and put his tray in the upright position soon D:
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On August 21 2014 01:50 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:49 BaneRiders wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:44 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 01:43 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:42 Undead1993 wrote:wtf? at what time was this played? so many mistakes by bunny you mean they were played in advance by a few weeks or something? nah i meant what day time it was. not that they played it weeks in advance in hots beta. Just wait, Bunny will make a couple of warhounds soon lol, can't wait to see some warhounds again! Happy berfday btw! I'm sad I never got to use them. I remember watching Creator in the beta be GM terran going 5 fact warhound and taking his hands off the keyboard after a moving
i liked watching several protosses including white-ra trying really hard to outmultitask the terran opponents and build the ultimate army behind it. then both players attack, warhounds prevail every time
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On August 21 2014 01:49 stuchiu wrote:
2 games in and they tell us its replays now, such a random timing to say it.
Why random? it's just after Tod's tweets.
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On August 21 2014 01:50 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. OK but if the other games aren't from replays (I guess so, otherwise why was San - Morrow delayed ?) how on earth is he going to play the other ones ? Did he just play this match to try and get the WCS points for a 3rd place in his group ? I think the forced the whole group to be played beforehand, and I don't know how I feel about that...
As long as they asked to the players for that, I'm fine.
One day the truth will emerge.
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On August 21 2014 01:50 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:50 ThomasjServo wrote:Wait until he has to hand his lap top to the chobo TSA. He'll have to turn it off during takeoff and put his tray in the upright position soon D:
Wonder what the latency is like from LA to Detroit.
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On August 21 2014 01:50 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:50 ThomasjServo wrote:Wait until he has to hand his lap top to the chobo TSA. He'll have to turn it off during takeoff and put his tray in the upright position soon D:
He has to win this map then, so there's a long wait before he has to play again
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On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit.
Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France?
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I'm an idiot he was already in LA
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I don't really care if the games are from replay if there's no other way. At least it isn't like NASL when the games were played like months ago before they were casted. As long as the casters don't know the results it's okay
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ToD tweeting about LAX and doesn't give a damn. Lol.
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On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France?
I think he has been in the US for awhile with Rotti and Nathanias
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On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France?
He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk
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On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France?
No, he's been chilling with Rotti before going to Detroit.
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On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk
Never forget. Best cast ever
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On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever
Basically HSC: NA edition.
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On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition.
With more puke and twitch memes.
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I don't understand ToD's build like at all. Mindgames only take you so far.
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On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition.
An NA HSC in Destiny's house. We need this to happen.
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Bunny is going to have a huge economic advantage soon
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On August 21 2014 01:56 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. An NA HSC in Destiny's house. We need this to happen.
ohhh shiiiet crowd funding gogo, someone message destiny
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ToD has great storms. Needs charge though x.x
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Yuck. Bunny is just picking ToD apart here. Strange decisions by ToD too.
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i am curious why tod decided to not research charge earlier
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Well done Bunny! Thats more like it
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Go Morrow, I want to see ToD v. San.
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ToD doesn't like charge it seems...
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Poll: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 9% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 36% ★★★- Good game (4) 36% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 18% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend ToD vs Bunny Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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So I assume this is why you don't go templar openings...
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On August 21 2014 02:01 Muffloe wrote:
Haha, g
There was a second 'g' though
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I don't get it... are all the games being casted from replays?
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It's a bit lame that it's not live though
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On August 21 2014 02:01 Faefae wrote:There was a second 'g' though
Wut, I need new glasses
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On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes.
What happened and when?
I was busy camping this month >_>
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On August 21 2014 02:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So I assume this is why you don't go templar openings...
I think the game showcases even better why charge is a good upgrade, but yeah, opening templars without any other tech (blink or at least one colossus) usually ends up very bad.
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I'm just kinda getting back into the scene after a year or two of being out of it. How is Tod and Morrow considered now? When did Bunny happen? I don't remember him at all.
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On August 21 2014 01:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
ToD has great storms. Needs charge though x.x
don't say things like that. The man is about to get on a plane
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On August 21 2014 02:02 MavivaM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes. What happened and when? I was busy camping this month >_>
They were drunk casting something but the VOD was deleted
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On August 21 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:02 MavivaM wrote:On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes. What happened and when? I was busy camping this month >_> They were drunk casting something but the VOD was deleted
Only those who got to watch live experienced the magic.
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On August 21 2014 02:02 MavivaM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes. What happened and when? I was busy camping this month >_>
took me a while to find it but this explains everything
+ Show Spoiler +
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On August 21 2014 02:04 BrodiaQ wrote:
I'm just kinda getting back into the scene after a year or two of being out of it. How is Tod and Morrow considered now? When did Bunny happen? I don't remember him at all.
Tods a part time caster now, but he's very good considering. Morrow is kind of forgetable these days. Bunny basically happened in the last 2 months.
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On August 21 2014 02:02 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:01 Faefae wrote:On August 21 2014 02:01 Muffloe wrote:
Haha, g There was a second 'g' though Wut, I need new glasses
Well he only said 'g' and then added an other 'g'
But yeah at first there was only 1^^
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On August 21 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:02 MavivaM wrote:On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes. What happened and when? I was busy camping this month >_> They were drunk casting something but the VOD was deleted
like fuck it was. It's listed under a different name
http://www.twitch.tv/rotterdam08/b/557194233
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On August 21 2014 02:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:04 BrodiaQ wrote:
I'm just kinda getting back into the scene after a year or two of being out of it. How is Tod and Morrow considered now? When did Bunny happen? I don't remember him at all. Tods a part time caster now, but he's very good considering. Morrow is kind of forgetable these days. Bunny basically happened in the last 2 months.
Bunny's been good for a while, but he had no exposure until pretty recently. I remember seeing him the finals of some online thing quite a while ago.
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That IEM finals gave me cancer, all the balance concerns of today seem so trivial compared to that.
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On August 21 2014 02:09 Morbidius wrote:
That IEM finals gave me cancer, all the balance concerns of today seem so trivial compared to that.
IdrA vs Reapers
Happy times, heavy times
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On August 21 2014 02:09 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 21 2014 02:04 BrodiaQ wrote:
I'm just kinda getting back into the scene after a year or two of being out of it. How is Tod and Morrow considered now? When did Bunny happen? I don't remember him at all. Tods a part time caster now, but he's very good considering. Morrow is kind of forgetable these days. Bunny basically happened in the last 2 months. Bunny's been good for a while, but he had no exposure until pretty recently. I remember seeing him the finals of some online thing quite a while ago.
Ya he's been around but he's exploded since he joined Liquid.
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On August 21 2014 02:05 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:02 MavivaM wrote:On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes. What happened and when? I was busy camping this month >_> took me a while to find it but this explains everything + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdqWZI77eTc
"Yo man he's so dead he might as well be playing this game from his coffin."
LOLOLOL
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On August 21 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:02 MavivaM wrote:On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes. What happened and when? I was busy camping this month >_> They were drunk casting something but the VOD was deleted
Thanks a lot, both to you and whoever answered!
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On August 21 2014 02:11 MavivaM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:02 MavivaM wrote:On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:On August 21 2014 01:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
why is the german stream without sound and why cast from replays? ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes. What happened and when? I was busy camping this month >_> They were drunk casting something but the VOD was deleted Thanks a lot, both to you and whoever answered!
Here are some highlights if you'd like
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdqWZI77eTc
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extended thermal lance finishing at similar time to stim
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wow terrible fight for san
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On August 21 2014 02:15 Lorning wrote:
Damn
DAMN.
That fight was lovely.
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Woah, nice engagement by Morrow
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Morrow's coming in like a rekting ball
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Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 13% ★★★- Good game (9) 60% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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These games have been crazy lol
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That did not go well for San
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I was pissed at Morrow for beating Mvp. But he is playing brilliantly.
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EU has been so interesting so far.
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Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match
Is this real life?
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On August 21 2014 02:17 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 13% ★★★- Good game (9) 60% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
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I'd figure San would crush Morrow. But like the casters said if Miniraser can go through over Snute then anything can happen
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Korean dropping like flies
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On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:
Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match
Is this real life?
Since last patch it's often real life
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Wow, Morrow surprising once again
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Just got home to see Bunny win his series plus morrow taking the first game against a korean - happy times! cheers <3
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Did not see Morrow beating San. Not over yet, but still.
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Yesterday; Miniraiser
Today: Morrow.
Schweden hält stand!
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ToD against San in the losers match?
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San has struggled in the online portion before so it's not like this is completely unbelievable
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Tbf San is playing from Korea
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On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:
Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match
Is this real life?
It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy
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On August 21 2014 02:19 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:
Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match
Is this real life? It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy
It's  TRUEly happening
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On August 21 2014 02:19 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:
Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match
Is this real life? It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy
It might be, we'll just have to watch when morrow gg's
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On August 21 2014 02:19 Squat wrote:
Yesterday; Miniraiser
Today: Morrow.
Schweden hält stand!
It's a good time to be Swedish I guess. All your good players retire and more just come and take their place...
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On August 21 2014 02:19 Shellshock wrote:
San has struggled in the online portion before so it's not like this is completely unbelievable
Korea to EU lag is pretty brutal too, that is a factor.
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On August 21 2014 02:19 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match Is this real Life? It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy
It's an Escape from Reality
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On August 21 2014 02:21 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:19 Shellshock wrote:
San has struggled in the online portion before so it's not like this is completely unbelievable Korea to EU lag is pretty brutal too, that is a factor.
Isn't he playing from China?
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On August 21 2014 02:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:19 Squat wrote:
Yesterday; Miniraiser
Today: Morrow.
Schweden hält stand! It's a good time to be Swedish I guess.
idk this is still probably the weakest sweden has been in sc2. They dont have any real contenders like Naniwa anymore
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On August 21 2014 02:22 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:19 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match Is this real Life? It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy It's an Escape from Reality
Damn I was gonna do this but it took me too long to find Reality's TLPD thing without a mouse ;;
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On August 21 2014 02:22 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:21 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 02:19 Shellshock wrote:
San has struggled in the online portion before so it's not like this is completely unbelievable Korea to EU lag is pretty brutal too, that is a factor. Isn't he playing from China?
Would that be an improvement though?
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On August 21 2014 02:22 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:22 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 02:19 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match Is this real Life? It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy It's an Escape from Reality Damn I was gonna do this but it took me too long to find Reality's TLPD thing without a mouse ;;
isn't there a command to TLPDize stuff?
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On August 21 2014 02:23 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:22 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:21 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 02:19 Shellshock wrote:
San has struggled in the online portion before so it's not like this is completely unbelievable Korea to EU lag is pretty brutal too, that is a factor. Isn't he playing from China? Would that be an improvement though?
No, it makes things significantly worse.
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On August 21 2014 02:22 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 21 2014 02:19 Squat wrote:
Yesterday; Miniraiser
Today: Morrow.
Schweden hält stand! It's a good time to be Swedish I guess. idk this is still probably the weakest sweden has been in sc2. They dont have any real contenders like Naniwa anymore
We do have the best blog writer though!
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On August 21 2014 02:22 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:21 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 02:19 Shellshock wrote:
San has struggled in the online portion before so it's not like this is completely unbelievable Korea to EU lag is pretty brutal too, that is a factor. Isn't he playing from China?
He would be in Taiwan, no?
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... Morrow ahead ??? I thought he was so dead when I left to answer a phone call...
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Lol don't think WCS will enjoy that obs chat either
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On August 21 2014 02:13 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:11 MavivaM wrote:On August 21 2014 02:05 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:02 MavivaM wrote:On August 21 2014 01:55 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:54 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 01:53 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 01:52 Tenks wrote:On August 21 2014 01:47 Boucot wrote:
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ToD is at Los Angeles airport about to take a plane to Detroit. Is it really the fastest way to Detroit from France to go to LAX first? I assumed it would just fly over the Atlantic. Was he in Korea not France? He was in LA teaching Nathanias how to get drunk Never forget. Best cast ever Basically HSC: NA edition. With more puke and twitch memes. What happened and when? I was busy camping this month >_> They were drunk casting something but the VOD was deleted Thanks a lot, both to you and whoever answered! Here are some highlights if you'd like + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdqWZI77eTc
I wish I was a girl to give you healthy children
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On August 21 2014 02:19 Shellshock wrote:
San has struggled in the online portion before so it's not like this is completely unbelievable
Never thought I'd hear those words about San. Agree though KR-US lag is intense
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Who needs hellbats? Hellions good enough.
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Morrow has studied some Supernova!
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Morrow with the sick plays. Wow.
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I don't know why this TKL guy keeps getting invited when he always lags.
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On August 21 2014 02:25 Undead1993 wrote:
morrow or maru?
Morru
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Ugh, how much I hate terrans :/
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Well coming back was unnecessary but Morrow has dealt a good amount of damage !
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Come on Morrow! Sigh, cheering feels pointless with us watching replays... <.< (not that it had any point in the first place)
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On August 21 2014 02:22 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:19 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match Is this real Life? It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy It's an Escape from Reality
Well played, guys!
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On August 21 2014 02:22 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:22 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 02:19 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match Is this real Life? It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy It's an Escape from Reality Damn I was gonna do this but it took me too long to find Reality's TLPD thing without a mouse ;;
You can type the name of a player and then click on the TLPD button
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Wow San is playing terrible, falling apart to the most standard terran pressure.
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Morrow really should get a turret or two to keep observers out.
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On August 21 2014 02:27 Morbidius wrote:
Wow San is playing terrible, falling apart to the most standard terran pressure.
Quite this ; I wonder how much we can attribute his sloppiness to latency.
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On August 21 2014 02:26 JustPassingBy wrote:
Come on Morrow! Sigh, cheering feels pointless with us watching replays... <.< (not that it had any point in the first place)
technically there is a minute delay in any live event you watch. even if you're there in person it takes time for the light to travel to your eyes
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On August 21 2014 02:27 Morbidius wrote:
Wow San is playing terrible, falling apart to the most standard terran pressure.
Yeah only reason supplies are so close is Morrow messed up his macro and was supply blocked for a bit. Really well played by Morrow but I feel the greater story is the poor play by San.
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On August 21 2014 02:26 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:22 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 02:19 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 02:17 BlackCompany wrote:Possibly two Terran foreigners in a winners match Is this real Life? It sure as hell isn't FanTaSy It's an Escape from Reality Well played, guys!
He might look sKyHigh and Sea
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floating 900 minerals and still not starting a turret at his third while knowing dts are out.
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On August 21 2014 02:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:27 Morbidius wrote:
Wow San is playing terrible, falling apart to the most standard terran pressure. Quite this ; I wonder how much we can attribute his sloppiness to latency.
A lot I think, it's very hard to defend vs that type of pressure when you can't micro properly. Smart build choices by Morrow.
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On August 21 2014 02:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:27 Morbidius wrote:
Wow San is playing terrible, falling apart to the most standard terran pressure. Quite this ; I wonder how much we can attribute his sloppiness to latency.
It seems like overall poor decisions not really micro mistakes
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DTs are still really good units, damn. Damn.
Morrow. =/
Also, I keep hearing "Maru" from Apollo.
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To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
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Wow Morrow did you really just lose this to DTs
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The fullest of foreigners
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Nevermind Inca is in control now.
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How do progamers still forget to put up a single turret in each mineral line...
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When Protoss seems weakest, when Terran seem unstoppable, one man will come to save them all. Or more accurately, one DT. Hail the Dark Knight. Hail Inca.
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Not having any turrets or energy for scan when not knowing if there are DTs is inexcusable imo. You just can't cut that many corners. Three turrets and that does nothing.
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Well damn, Morrow had a good shot at 2-0ing San
now it will be hard to win this game
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omg morrow never scans and kills observers ..
San knows everything all the time
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On August 21 2014 02:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
How do progamers still forget to put up a single turret in each mineral line...
Technically, even if you don't have a single turret in each mineral line, with perfect reaction, dts shouldn't kill 30 workers...
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On August 21 2014 02:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
How do progamers still forget to put up a single turret in each mineral line...
Not even in each which is quite an investment, but a single turret at his natural entrance would have made his life so much easier...
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Serioiusly though, didn't he see the DT's? How did he not start a turret? He had the money
Anyway I have to go now but good luck morrow
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On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
Thank you very much for the clarifications.
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On August 21 2014 02:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Serioiusly though, didn't he see the DT's? How did he not start a turret? He had the money
Anyway I have to go now but good luck morrow
Even without seeing the DT or not he knew Blink was out. So he knew a TC was at least on the field for a decent amount of time. You have to prepare for the possibility of DTs at this phase in the game.
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On August 21 2014 02:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
How do progamers still forget to put up a single turret in each mineral line... Not even in each which is quite an investment, but a single turret at his natural entrance would have made his life so much easier...
just a security turret in his natural would suffice, imo. that way you always have a mineral line to which you can savely retreat your scvs without heavy losses (except denied mining time, obviously).
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On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
Thanks a lot, I think there was no better way than this solution.
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LOL Morrow.
gg San wins this one.
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Oh boy, that move command killed the last small hope that was left
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The worst engagement ever.
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You should have won that MorroW.
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holy shit. morrow was already down 20 supply while he was still reacting to the first storm and hadnt even fired yet
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Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 17% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 50% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 8% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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That engagement was god awful
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That engagement was painful to watch
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Weidest engagement I've seen in a while
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On August 21 2014 02:34 Lorning wrote:
Dat micro
Unreal
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haha morrow, no map vision, no clue where the enemy is, never scanning and killing observers
how the hell did he win the first game
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On August 21 2014 02:35 Clazziquai10 wrote:
WTF WAS THAT???
Right-click up a ramp and mutinous vikings.
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gogo San! Get the reverse sweep like Bunny did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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That was glorious engagement ^_^
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On August 21 2014 02:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Right-click up a ramp and mutinous vikings.
Ha ha ha mutinous vikings ^^ I like the way you say it, it's quite funny, though they weren't as mutinous as they were suicidal.
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On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all.
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On August 21 2014 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
oh wow San is going to Red Bull Detroit?
det messioso spoiler
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wtf is with that depot/rax placement
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On August 21 2014 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
oh wow San is going to Red Bull Detroit?
Yea he joined last minute along with Taeja
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When behind, go DT.
![[image loading]](http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs41/i/2009/034/b/9/Zeratul__Dark_Templar_Prelate_by_scarypet.jpg)
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On August 21 2014 02:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 02:35 Clazziquai10 wrote:
WTF WAS THAT??? Right-click up a ramp and mutinous vikings. Ha ha ha mutinous vikings ^^ I like the way you say it, it's quite funny, though they weren't as mutinous as they were suicidal.
Haha that too :D
I can picture Morrow being like "All right viking fleet! Head in and pick off those colossi!"
"........Nahhhhhhh."
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On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all.
I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception.
Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU.
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Fast engineering bay. Surely Morrow will have those turrets up way in advance to stop San's dt pressure, right?
Right?
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The Man goes DTs... it's gonna be good
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Ah MorroW, you don't know how pleased I am by this missile turret.
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On August 21 2014 02:42 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all. I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception. Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU.
?? the players are who they are, they earned the right to compete, they are the entertainers and they should be accomodated. making them pick between events or change their travel plans just for the sake of live games would be horrible for the scene
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On August 21 2014 02:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Ah MorroW, you don't know how pleased I am by this missile turret.
None in the main though :D
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I don't get why he doesn't get a turret in the main. Protoss almost always follows up with a prism if you defend the first DTs well.
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On August 21 2014 02:42 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all. I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception. Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU.
If it was purely due to timezone restrictions, sure. But both players also had to travel to events. Like I said, we could have forced them not to travel to events, but can you imagine the problems that would cause over playing from replays?
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Inca was a prophet ahead of his time.
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On August 21 2014 02:43 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:42 BlackCompany wrote:On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all. I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception. Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU. ?? the players are who they are, they earned the right to compete, they are the entertainers and they should be accomodated. making them pick between events or change their travel plans just for the sake of live games would be horrible for the scene
Yeah, next time Player A comes and he asks for a butler and that they live stream his games at midnight EU time. Because he is an entertainer and we should do everything to please him this is no problem, right?
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Morrow doing quite fine so far.
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Are 100 mins really that big of an investment to not be better prepared in the main?
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I'm a little unsure of why it's a problem to cast replays if the results aren't getting spoiled and it's more convenient for the players.
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On August 21 2014 02:45 messioso wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:42 BlackCompany wrote:On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all. I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception. Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU. If it was purely due to timezone restrictions, sure. But both players also had to travel to events. Like I said, we could have forced them not to travel to events, but can you imagine the problems that would cause over playing from replays?
I can, thats why i said its ok. I just dont want this to become the default option because player XYZ doesnt feel like playing from korea at a certain time. I know you didnt do this for korean players in the past, but once you start you never know how far people try to push you.
Again, i really dont mind it. Just make sure its not becoming the default option.
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On August 21 2014 02:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I'm a little unsure of why it's a problem to cast replays if the results aren't getting spoiled and it's more convenient for the players.
the tension probably.
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Hey, this looks like my playing style.
One (1) zealot in my main, and my whole army returns!
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Seems like Twitch is down.
Anyone else cannot watch the stream?
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This choo choo leaves me a bit sceptical. Let's see.
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On August 21 2014 02:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I'm a little unsure of why it's a problem to cast replays if the results aren't getting spoiled and it's more convenient for the players.
Idd, players first.
Still waiting for ToD to initiate the Players Union
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On August 21 2014 02:48 TW wrote:
Seems like Twitch is down.
Anyone else cannot watch the stream?
Just you, works fine here.
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Well played by San
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On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it.
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Ah not enough vikings
Lets see if Bunny can beat San, he is probably stronger than Morrow and San didnt look invulnerable
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On August 21 2014 02:48 TW wrote:
Seems like Twitch is down.
Anyone else cannot watch the stream?
Works fine with me :/
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Watching scv pull being slaughtered is sooo pleasing
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Morrow, you came so close ;;
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Full foreigner *Kappa*
User was warned for this post
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I think Morrow fucks up his vikings movements, but a win is still a win so ggwp, San (L)
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Failed SCV pulls never fail to bring joy to my heart.
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So sad that 2/3 TvPs are SCV pulls :/ it used to be my favorite MU
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On August 21 2014 02:47 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:45 messioso wrote:On August 21 2014 02:42 BlackCompany wrote:On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all. I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception. Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU. If it was purely due to timezone restrictions, sure. But both players also had to travel to events. Like I said, we could have forced them not to travel to events, but can you imagine the problems that would cause over playing from replays? I can, thats why i said its ok. I just dont want this to become the default option because player XYZ doesnt feel like playing from korea at a certain time. I know you didnt do this for korean players in the past, but once you start you never know how far people try to push you. Again, i really dont mind it. Just make sure its not becoming the default option.
San is the only one who lives in Korea
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On August 21 2014 02:49 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it.
What? You'd rather see players DQd today than to see the games casted from replays? Insanity!
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On August 21 2014 02:49 werynais wrote:
Full Foreigner ... WHY?
This isn't full foreigner >.> He wasn't overwhelmingly ahead this game and then threw it all away.
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San switched on Korean mode
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 21 2014 02:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This isn't full foreigner >.> He wasn't overwhelmingly ahead this game and then threw it all away.
Yeah but that fight should have been much closer
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Morrow should still pull though in the next rounds
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Morrow micros his vikings in a very strange way, he seems to shoot and then come closer to the colossi every time. The intention may be fine -probably not letting the colossi micro back I guess ?- but it essentially resulted in eating full archon hits, which I'm not sure is the researched goal.
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On August 21 2014 02:50 Noonius wrote:
San switched on Korean mode
And that forced Morrow to play bad?
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On August 21 2014 02:50 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:49 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it. What? You'd rather see players DQd today than to see the games casted from replays? Insanity!
yes, I would. It's the principle of the matter.
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On August 21 2014 02:48 RHoudini wrote:
Hey, this looks like my playing style.
One (1) zealot in my main, and my whole army returns!
*rapidly spamming F2 into 1a*
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I bet Morrow and San will rematch in the final match
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On August 21 2014 02:50 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:47 BlackCompany wrote:On August 21 2014 02:45 messioso wrote:On August 21 2014 02:42 BlackCompany wrote:On August 21 2014 02:37 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Can't the players just travel to Detroit one or two days early and play the games live from there? And I have no sympathy for the timezone issue. This is WCS EU after all. I think its understandable that they changed schedule for the players but i hope this will be a one-time-only exception. Because i think JustPassingBy is right, this IS WCS EU. If they dont feel like playing at the EU time.. well they should not play in EU. If it was purely due to timezone restrictions, sure. But both players also had to travel to events. Like I said, we could have forced them not to travel to events, but can you imagine the problems that would cause over playing from replays? I can, thats why i said its ok. I just dont want this to become the default option because player XYZ doesnt feel like playing from korea at a certain time. I know you didnt do this for korean players in the past, but once you start you never know how far people try to push you. Again, i really dont mind it. Just make sure its not becoming the default option. San is the only one who lives in Korea
Yes, you are right. But maybe one of them travels to korea like Tod did to US today?
I understand why people dont mind, my opinion is slightly different but its not like i stop watching WCS or hate ESL because of a replay cast.
Lets just try to enjoy the rest of the games from today ( and hope Bunny wins ofc!)
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On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden?
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To go from 40 supply ahead and on the verge of winning 2-0 to losing 1-2 and going down to the loser's bracket, how is this even possible 0.o?
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On August 21 2014 02:50 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:49 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it. What? You'd rather see players DQd today than to see the games casted from replays? Insanity!
Well..I kinda agree with him. It is the most prestigious competition in SC2 (atleast for foreigners) and should be treated like that imho.
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Lorning
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On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Did you hide the results for a reason?
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If Bunny plays decent -which wasn't really the case against ToD- I give him a good chance against tonight's San.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden?
So I can fiddle with the results
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On August 21 2014 02:52 Loccstana wrote:
To go from 40 supply ahead and on the verge of winning 2-0 to losing 1-2 and going down to the loser's bracket, how is this even possible 0.o?
Dark Templars (let's add : poorly dealt with, because otherwise it looks like a balance whine)
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On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden?
They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote.
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On August 21 2014 02:51 CruelZeratul wrote:And that forced Morrow to play bad?
Morrow realized after the fist map that he had the chance to win against a Korean and thus he went into foreigner mode, losing the next 2 maps
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On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results
So the corruption of gaming journalism has even reached the TL polls?
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On August 21 2014 02:53 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results So the corruption of gaming journalism has even reached the TL polls?
you could always vote from multiple IPs. Polls are super corrupt
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I hope ToD doesn't go for those very quick templars no charge openings and plays something that actually makes some sense.
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On August 21 2014 02:52 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:50 DJHelium wrote:On August 21 2014 02:49 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it. What? You'd rather see players DQd today than to see the games casted from replays? Insanity! yes, I would. It's the principle of the matter.
Ok. I disagree, much prefer to have a WCS that makes it easy for the players to keep on playing other tournaments as well. I want to see players who perform well in WCS in other tournaments as well.
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On August 21 2014 02:52 Niko_Thien wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:50 DJHelium wrote:On August 21 2014 02:49 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it. What? You'd rather see players DQd today than to see the games casted from replays? Insanity! Well..I kinda agree with him. It is the most prestigious competition in SC2 (atleast for foreigners) and should be treated like that imho.
I think regarding flights to tournament etc., this is a good approach. If someone who chose to play WCS EU lives in Taiwan - well. As long as the rules allow that, everything should be done to ensure a fair and equal treatment, and thus, moving match schedule is a completely okay (and great imho) choice. As long as the rules do not forbid that a guy plays WCS EU from Taiwan, it's kind and great from ESL to set the schedule in a way that allows players to attend tournaments as well as playing in a condition that is not disadvantagious to them (i.e. lack of sleep, uncomfortable times etc).
I'm no moderator though, but I think we should leave this topic as it is now since it will just fuel the "WCS EU should not include koreans" discussion which was led one time too often IMHO. Let's agree to disagree if necessary.
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On August 21 2014 02:53 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote.
That's awesome.
I think that they should be hidden until you vote instead when you decide @Lorning
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On August 21 2014 02:55 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:53 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote. That's awesome. I think that they should be hidden until you vote instead when you decide @Lorning
The problem with that is people who want to just come into the thread after to find out what games are recommended would have to vote blindly to find out
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On August 21 2014 02:53 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results So the corruption of gaming journalism has even reached the TL polls?
are the players gonna havet to sleep with Lorning, Zoe Quinn style, in order to getter better poll result?
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 02:55 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:53 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote. That's awesome. I think that they should be hidden until you vote instead when you decide @Lorning
I wanted to do that, but Shellbot made a great point
On August 20 2014 00:55 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 20:55 Lorning wrote:On August 19 2014 20:54 Boucot wrote:On August 19 2014 20:30 Lorning wrote:
Ready for the new season?
Also, there are some new options for polls (or I just found them lol):
- Always show results
- Hide results until user votes
- Hide results until you choose to show
I have chosen the second option with as goal:
1) Get more people to vote
2) Less bandwagon votes
I'm gonna monitor the results closely Mmm I saw the results before I voted. I'm doing it with the recommended games polls What about people that can't watch and want to see what is recommended? That means they have to blindly vote before they know
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the real question is, will we see a gg from Tod?
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On August 21 2014 02:56 Loccstana wrote:
the real question is, will we see a gg from Tod?
He gged or wped against Bunny, so unless there is some history I don't know between him and Morrow I guess he'll gg in some way.
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On August 21 2014 02:56 Loccstana wrote:
the real question is, will we see a gg from Tod?
we saw a single g earlier
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On August 21 2014 02:55 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:53 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote. That's awesome. I think that they should be hidden until you vote instead when you decide @Lorning
I know, I just added some polls in the kespa goes world thread recently. But I was just asking why Lorning chose to not show the results at all (so far) - is there a reason behind it (like, not seeing the results might enable a fairer because un-influenced vote) or was it just a random "let's put a smile on that face" move á la Joker?
Edit: nvm, just saw his answer + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results
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An admin is communicating in the LR thread on TL, clearly explaining what is going on with full transparency and showing that they do all they can to accommodate players and ensure the best games possible - and there are still people complaining! ESL has been already pretty awesome in their WCS production and this makes me like them even more - hope that the fact that a few people try to abuse the situation to push their "EU for europeans" agenda doesn't discourage further friendly communication.
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On August 21 2014 02:58 opisska wrote:
An admin is communicating in the LR thread on TL, clearly explaining what is going on with full transparency and showing that they do all they can to accommodate players and ensure the best games possible - and there are still people complaining! ESL has been already pretty awesome in their WCS production and this makes me like them even more - hope that the fact that a few people try to abuse the situation to push their "EU for europeans" agenda doesn't discourage further friendly communication.
As I said before: + Show Spoiler +I'm no moderator though, but I think we should leave this topic as it is now since it will just fuel the "WCS EU should not include koreans" discussion which was led one time too often IMHO. Let's agree to disagree if necessary.
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On August 21 2014 02:56 Loccstana wrote:
the real question is, will we see a gg from Tod?
No because he's gonna win.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 02:58 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:55 The_Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 02:53 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote. That's awesome. I think that they should be hidden until you vote instead when you decide @Lorning I know, I just added some polls in the kespa goes world thread recently. But I was just asking why Lorning chose to not show the results at all (so far) - is there a reason behind it (like, not seeing the results might enable a fairer because un-influenced vote) or was it just a random "let's put a smile on that face" move á la Joker? Edit: nvm, just saw his answer + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results
Serious answer
On August 19 2014 20:30 Lorning wrote:
Ready for the new season?
Also, there are some new options for polls (or I just found them lol):
- Always show results
- Hide results until user votes
- Hide results until you choose to show
I have chosen the third option with the recommended games polls with as goal:
1) Get more people to vote
2) Less bandwagon votes
I'm gonna monitor the results closely
And to be honest, polls are less one sided now. Usually they follow my vote (cause it's almost always the first one)
I also saw an increase in votes (about 67.3%)
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On August 21 2014 03:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:56 Loccstana wrote:
the real question is, will we see a gg from Tod? No because he's gonna win.
Upset day was yesterday, sorry
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this is difficult, I want terran and ToD to win here. Clearly ToD must race switch to terran
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 02:54 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:53 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results So the corruption of gaming journalism has even reached the TL polls? you could always vote from multiple IPs. Polls are super corrupt
I remember the time r1ch won a vote by changing the coding. That was great.
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On August 21 2014 03:00 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:58 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 02:55 The_Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 02:53 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote. That's awesome. I think that they should be hidden until you vote instead when you decide @Lorning I know, I just added some polls in the kespa goes world thread recently. But I was just asking why Lorning chose to not show the results at all (so far) - is there a reason behind it (like, not seeing the results might enable a fairer because un-influenced vote) or was it just a random "let's put a smile on that face" move á la Joker? Edit: nvm, just saw his answer + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results Serious answer Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 20:30 Lorning wrote:
Ready for the new season?
Also, there are some new options for polls (or I just found them lol):
- Always show results
- Hide results until user votes
- Hide results until you choose to show
I have chosen the third option with the recommended games polls with as goal:
1) Get more people to vote
2) Less bandwagon votes
I'm gonna monitor the results closely And to be honest, polls are less one sided now. Usually they follow my vote (cause it's almost always the first one) I also saw an increase in votes (about 67.3%)
Great idea. I hid the votes in the Kespa thread for the same reason, showing them only when one had voted.
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Too bad ToD didn't snipe the full medivac.
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On August 21 2014 02:58 opisska wrote:
An admin is communicating in the LR thread on TL, clearly explaining what is going on with full transparency and showing that they do all they can to accommodate players and ensure the best games possible - and there are still people complaining! ESL has been already pretty awesome in their WCS production and this makes me like them even more - hope that the fact that a few people try to abuse the situation to push their "EU for europeans" agenda doesn't discourage further friendly communication.
Okay this is the last time i will answer to this (people are right, this is not the place for it) but could you please stop suggesting just because we dislike replay casting that we dont like koreans? Noone said anything in that direction and noone "abuses the situation". We discussed and were all friendly to each other and the admin
Try to read the next time before you post and dont go like "loleoeol so many people here hate non-eu people"
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT
Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time
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Is that cannon thingy new meta or just Tod trolling?
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That's a ridiculous amount of damage. I think it's a good example of how early forge is actually not that great against agressions that don't feature widow mines, ToD would have really preferred some more stalkers to hold.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:01 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:00 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:58 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 02:55 The_Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 02:53 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote. That's awesome. I think that they should be hidden until you vote instead when you decide @Lorning I know, I just added some polls in the kespa goes world thread recently. But I was just asking why Lorning chose to not show the results at all (so far) - is there a reason behind it (like, not seeing the results might enable a fairer because un-influenced vote) or was it just a random "let's put a smile on that face" move á la Joker? Edit: nvm, just saw his answer + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results Serious answer On August 19 2014 20:30 Lorning wrote:
Ready for the new season?
Also, there are some new options for polls (or I just found them lol):
- Always show results
- Hide results until user votes
- Hide results until you choose to show
I have chosen the third option with the recommended games polls with as goal:
1) Get more people to vote
2) Less bandwagon votes
I'm gonna monitor the results closely And to be honest, polls are less one sided now. Usually they follow my vote (cause it's almost always the first one) I also saw an increase in votes (about 67.3%) Great idea. I hid the votes in the Kespa thread for the same reason, showing them only when one had voted.
I will never hide votes because everyone wants transparency usually, kinda, well depends, but they're pretty loud about it!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time
Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game.
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On August 21 2014 02:56 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:53 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results So the corruption of gaming journalism has even reached the TL polls? are the players gonna havet to sleep with Lorning, Zoe Quinn style, in order to getter better poll result?
I'd sleep with Lorning regardless.
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At least ToD is researching charge this time...
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:03 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:56 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 02:53 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results So the corruption of gaming journalism has even reached the TL polls? are the players gonna havet to sleep with Lorning, Zoe Quinn style, in order to getter better poll result? I'd sleep with Lorning regardless.
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On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:01 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:00 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 02:58 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 02:55 The_Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 02:53 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? They added new options for the poll creator to temporarily hide polls or make it so it's hidden until you vote. That's awesome. I think that they should be hidden until you vote instead when you decide @Lorning I know, I just added some polls in the kespa goes world thread recently. But I was just asking why Lorning chose to not show the results at all (so far) - is there a reason behind it (like, not seeing the results might enable a fairer because un-influenced vote) or was it just a random "let's put a smile on that face" move á la Joker? Edit: nvm, just saw his answer + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 02:53 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 21 2014 02:50 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 44% ★★★- Good game (4) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend San vs MorroW Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
What is this? Result are hidden? So I can fiddle with the results Serious answer On August 19 2014 20:30 Lorning wrote:
Ready for the new season?
Also, there are some new options for polls (or I just found them lol):
- Always show results
- Hide results until user votes
- Hide results until you choose to show
I have chosen the third option with the recommended games polls with as goal:
1) Get more people to vote
2) Less bandwagon votes
I'm gonna monitor the results closely And to be honest, polls are less one sided now. Usually they follow my vote (cause it's almost always the first one) I also saw an increase in votes (about 67.3%) Great idea. I hid the votes in the Kespa thread for the same reason, showing them only when one had voted. I will never hide votes because everyone wants transparency usually, kinda, well depends, but they're pretty loud about it!
Its almost like we are all women, we dont know what we want but god help if we dont get it
+ Show Spoiler +
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On August 21 2014 02:56 Loccstana wrote:
the real question is, will we see a gg from Tod?
Why wouldn't he?
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On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game.
Completely outplayed
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Well, I think we can already make a poll to know if ToD will or not gg, because him winning this game has gotten far more unlikely in the last few minutes.
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On August 21 2014 03:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
ToD, why not DT's?!
He wasn't able to watch the previous games
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On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed
But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;*
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Unless you can trick the other guy, I don't think Protoss should go HT/Charge until some Korean guy solves it.
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On August 21 2014 03:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:56 Loccstana wrote:
the real question is, will we see a gg from Tod? Why wouldn't he?
He never gged for the longest amount of time, but it seems he does it on broadcasted games now.
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I dont understand why ToD is going for the non-colossus play. I can understand that in the current meta scv pulls are strong but that colossus are played is due to the meta to begin with so.... he cannot really go for zealot archon vs mines. Its not playable that way currently.
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Even though Morrow has made some big mistakes against San, he really stepped up his game in the last months
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On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;*
But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing
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ToD should go for DTs in game 2
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On August 21 2014 02:59 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:58 opisska wrote:
An admin is communicating in the LR thread on TL, clearly explaining what is going on with full transparency and showing that they do all they can to accommodate players and ensure the best games possible - and there are still people complaining! ESL has been already pretty awesome in their WCS production and this makes me like them even more - hope that the fact that a few people try to abuse the situation to push their "EU for europeans" agenda doesn't discourage further friendly communication. As I said before: + Show Spoiler +I'm no moderator though, but I think we should leave this topic as it is now since it will just fuel the "WCS EU should not include koreans" discussion which was led one time too often IMHO. Let's agree to disagree if necessary. might be a good idea.
While ceasefire offer is always nice, it's slightly hypocritical when it comes from the side that generally starts the fight, isn't it? But whatever, lets enjoy the games ... oh wait, is it even possible to enjoy ToD getting his ass handed to him at a silver plate? eeeeeeeeee
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On August 21 2014 03:06 NarutO wrote:
I dont understand why ToD is going for the non-colossus play. I can understand that in the current meta scv pulls are strong but that colossus are played is due to the meta to begin with so.... he cannot really go for zealot archon vs mines. Its not playable that way currently.
I understand it as a surprise build, not as your standard macro build which actually seems to be the case.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8) 50% ★★★- Good game (5) 31% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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looks like ToD will be available for a lot more casting for the rest of the year
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United States97276 Posts
seems so weird that this is the final season of the year and it's August
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On August 21 2014 03:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:06 NarutO wrote:
I dont understand why ToD is going for the non-colossus play. I can understand that in the current meta scv pulls are strong but that colossus are played is due to the meta to begin with so.... he cannot really go for zealot archon vs mines. Its not playable that way currently. I understand it as a surprise build, not as your standard macro build which actually seems to be the case.
In hindsight it was a very bad judgement, should have opened with collosus.
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Nice games by Morrow his early game TvP is great :D
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On August 21 2014 03:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. http://www.akademiska.se/en/Departments1/The-Burn-Center/
FTFY
sweden has only two if I googled correctly.
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On August 21 2014 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
seems so weird that this is the final season of the year and it's August
I miss ProLeague
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On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing
Thorzain, was he that terran who was supposed to blow up and had all this potential but then fizzled out to nothing, much like his entire domestic scene?
No wait, that was Demuslim, my bad.
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On August 21 2014 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
seems so weird that this is the final season of the year and it's August
Yeah. Remember when they said it was gonna be 4 seasons this year?
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Morrow, go for a cheese and finish this!
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On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing
The new generation is here :p
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On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p
Not better than TSL3.
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On August 21 2014 03:09 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing Thorzain, was he that terran who was supposed to blow up and had all this potential but then fizzled out to nothing, much like his entire domestic scene? No wait, that was Demuslim, my bad.
Thorzain found a girl though that might've done the job
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On August 21 2014 03:09 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing Thorzain, was he that terran who was supposed to blow up and had all this potential but then fizzled out to nothing, much like his entire domestic scene? No wait, that was Demuslim, my bad.
But I don't care about players from my nation. All my favourite players are Koreans.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p
I imagine you saying that as MC just walks by whistling.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:10 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:09 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing Thorzain, was he that terran who was supposed to blow up and had all this potential but then fizzled out to nothing, much like his entire domestic scene? No wait, that was Demuslim, my bad. Thorzain found a girl though that might've done the job
Love is the death of duty.
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That was a mismicro by Tod, wasn't it? It feels like as if stalker skipped a shot.
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On August 21 2014 03:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p Not better than TSL3.
Blizzcon will be tho(not sure if Morrow and Mini's will get enough points for it tho)
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On August 21 2014 03:12 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p Not better than TSL3. Blizzcon will be tho(not sure if Morrow and Mini's will get enough points for it tho)
no foreigner will get enough points for blizzcon, now then kespa guns are starting to attend foreign tournaments and basically steal points away
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On August 21 2014 03:11 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p I imagine you saying that as MC just walks by whistling.
literally old generations
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On August 21 2014 03:13 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:11 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p I imagine you saying that as MC just walks by whistling. literally old generations
MC still wearing glasses
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On August 21 2014 03:11 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:10 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing Thorzain, was he that terran who was supposed to blow up and had all this potential but then fizzled out to nothing, much like his entire domestic scene? No wait, that was Demuslim, my bad. Thorzain found a girl though that might've done the job Love is the death of duty.
Your post count is matching the age of the author of that quote I think. Almost.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:16 boxerfred wrote:
spamming F5. dead lr.
you're a dead lr
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:15 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:11 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:10 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing Thorzain, was he that terran who was supposed to blow up and had all this potential but then fizzled out to nothing, much like his entire domestic scene? No wait, that was Demuslim, my bad. Thorzain found a girl though that might've done the job Love is the death of duty. Your post count is matching the age of the author of that quote I think. Almost.
GRRM may pull a Dante while writing that series, or worse a Jordan. =\
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On August 21 2014 02:49 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
the thing is, if people are busy or it's too late or too early for them and can't make the scheduled time, disqualify them if they are not online for the check-in. There's money on the line here and I'm sure a couple of dq's here and there and players will start taking it more seriously. Tournament will start losing it's credibility if it starts re-arranging things because of couple of players who knew well in advance when it was their time to play just couldnt make it.
They were never given a time to play originally. As we clearly stated when we drew the groups, we would work on the schedule after we drew them because we knew things like this would happen due to the sheer amount of events occurring in this period. Hence the Date TBA.
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On August 21 2014 03:13 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:12 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:On August 21 2014 03:01 Muffloe wrote:
LOL HASHTAG REKT Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p Not better than TSL3. Blizzcon will be tho(not sure if Morrow and Mini's will get enough points for it tho) no foreigner will get enough points for blizzcon, now then kespa guns are starting to attend foreign tournaments and basically steal points away
Well, better luck next time :p I guess this makes Naniwa historic tho
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not the best series by our french player.
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On August 21 2014 03:16 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:15 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:11 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:10 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:
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Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing Thorzain, was he that terran who was supposed to blow up and had all this potential but then fizzled out to nothing, much like his entire domestic scene? No wait, that was Demuslim, my bad. Thorzain found a girl though that might've done the job Love is the death of duty. Your post count is matching the age of the author of that quote I think. Almost. GRRM may pull a Dante while writing that series, or worse a Jordan. =\
Or worse, a Shakespeare. Do you know how many kills that dude is responsible for?!
On August 21 2014 03:17 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:13 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 03:12 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:02 Lorning wrote:
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Wow, Swedish trash talk. That's something I haven't seen in a long time Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p Not better than TSL3. Blizzcon will be tho(not sure if Morrow and Mini's will get enough points for it tho) no foreigner will get enough points for blizzcon, now then kespa guns are starting to attend foreign tournaments and basically steal points away Well, better luck next time :p I guess this makes Naniwa historic tho
Grrr still best foreigner though
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gg already so I can go and have a smoke
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I sit here and refresh that thread since the game 2 started. I did not watch a second of the game. BRB, gonna get a fucking life.
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On August 21 2014 03:17 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:16 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:15 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:11 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:10 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:
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Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing Thorzain, was he that terran who was supposed to blow up and had all this potential but then fizzled out to nothing, much like his entire domestic scene? No wait, that was Demuslim, my bad. Thorzain found a girl though that might've done the job Love is the death of duty. Your post count is matching the age of the author of that quote I think. Almost. GRRM may pull a Dante while writing that series, or worse a Jordan. =\ Or worse, a Shakespeare. Do you know how many kills that dude is responsible for?! Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:17 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:13 Noonius wrote:On August 21 2014 03:12 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:09 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:07 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:05 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 03:04 AWalker9 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:
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Hard to trash talk when your best player lost a bo5 in 1 game. Completely outplayed But then again it's easy to trash talk when the final is going to be 2 swedes ;* But NaNiwa and Thorzain aren't playing The new generation is here :p Not better than TSL3. Blizzcon will be tho(not sure if Morrow and Mini's will get enough points for it tho) no foreigner will get enough points for blizzcon, now then kespa guns are starting to attend foreign tournaments and basically steal points away Well, better luck next time :p I guess this makes Naniwa historic tho Grrr still best foreigner though
Well, he is still the only foreigner to win OSL(rite?). Case closed for infinity
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 23% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 46% ★★★- Good game (2) 15% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 15% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 27% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 18% ★★★- Good game (3) 27% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 27% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 21 2014 03:18 Noonius wrote:
gg already so I can go and have a smoke
No gg no smoke
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Back to your casting career, ToD, ty.
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Haha, Le mad ToD ragequit
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China6327 Posts
Why is this match casted from replays?
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Tod, Tod, Tod
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ApbvYUI.jpg)
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Poor ToD, now only has casting to make his money
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:20 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 23% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 46% ★★★- Good game (2) 15% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 15% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 27% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 18% ★★★- Good game (3) 27% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 27% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 21 2014 03:20 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 23% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 46% ★★★- Good game (2) 15% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 15% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 27% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 18% ★★★- Good game (3) 27% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 27% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
I'd make the poll for the game that didn't happen open though, otherwise the results will likely be completely random .
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On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays?
because tod is currently flying in the land of the free
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It's openend on another tab. I normally switch them while watching. Somehow I don't. I'll write a whiny blog post soon about my current life so you guys can encourage me. Alright? :D
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Dont know if ToD ragequit, or that that was his usual no GG, but he played pretty bad there it wasnt even close
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On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays?
San and ToD had to go to Red Bull so there was no good time that didnt screw someone without playing from reps I think.
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On August 21 2014 03:21 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays? because tod is currently flying in the land of the free
so he's in new zealand?
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Northern Ireland280 Posts
Ach le tod. Be nice to see morrow advance though!
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On August 21 2014 03:21 boxerfred wrote:It's openend on another tab. I normally switch them while watching. Somehow I don't. I'll write a whiny blog post soon about my current life so you guys can encourage me. Alright? :D
5/5 if I get a shoutout
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On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays?
here is the whole clarification: + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
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On August 21 2014 03:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:21 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:19 boxerfred wrote:
I sit here and refresh that thread since the game 2 started. I did not watch a second of the game. BRB, gonna get a fucking life. Or... http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCS Europe It's openend on another tab. I normally switch them while watching. Somehow I don't. I'll write a whiny blog post soon about my current life so you guys can encourage me. Alright? :D 5/5 if I get a shoutout
I'm really down these days, not many things going in a way I actually like. I tend to become a nice guy whenever something bad is happening, and since I didn't get a warning from KBB for quite some time, I guess my life is all going down the drain :D
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On August 21 2014 03:21 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays? because tod is currently flying in the land of the free
and bunny and san.
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Aligulac is never wrong:
Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Bunny 85.37% 51.83% 33.55% 10.35% 4.28%
San 80.42% 37.67% 42.76% 14.19% 5.38%
MorroW 22.98% 7.27% 15.71% 41.56% 35.46%
ToD 11.23% 3.24% 7.99% 33.90% 54.87%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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I want to make a Duracell joke for Bunny here, somehow, but it's just not connecting.
Fuck it.
GO BUNNY. DESTROY SAN! :D
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On August 21 2014 03:24 Loccstana wrote:Aligulac is never wrong: Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Bunny 85.37% 51.83% 33.55% 10.35% 4.28%
San 80.42% 37.67% 42.76% 14.19% 5.38%
MorroW 22.98% 7.27% 15.71% 41.56% 35.46%
ToD 11.23% 3.24% 7.99% 33.90% 54.87%
wait until morrow recalls his korean roots and throws out san.
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On August 21 2014 03:24 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:21 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays? because tod is currently flying in the land of the free and bunny and san.
but not morrow
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On August 21 2014 03:24 Loccstana wrote:Aligulac is never wrong: Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Bunny 85.37% 51.83% 33.55% 10.35% 4.28%
San 80.42% 37.67% 42.76% 14.19% 5.38%
MorroW 22.98% 7.27% 15.71% 41.56% 35.46%
ToD 11.23% 3.24% 7.99% 33.90% 54.87%
Does anyone actually place liquibets estimated on aligulac?
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Here is predictions based on current results:
Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Bunny 87.60% 56.53% 31.07% 12.40% 0.00%
San 87.37% 43.47% 43.90% 12.63% 0.00%
MorroW 25.03% 0.00% 25.03% 74.97% 0.00%
ToD 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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On August 21 2014 03:25 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:24 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 03:21 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays? because tod is currently flying in the land of the free and bunny and san. but not morrow
It feels like all matches are replays somehow...
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On August 21 2014 03:25 Rehio wrote:
I want to make a Duracell joke for Bunny here, somehow, but it's just not connecting.
Fuck it.
GO BUNNY. DESTROY SAN! :D
Probably because it's the Energizer Bunny
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On August 21 2014 03:24 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:21 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:19 boxerfred wrote:
I sit here and refresh that thread since the game 2 started. I did not watch a second of the game. BRB, gonna get a fucking life. Or... http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCS Europe It's openend on another tab. I normally switch them while watching. Somehow I don't. I'll write a whiny blog post soon about my current life so you guys can encourage me. Alright? :D 5/5 if I get a shoutout I'm really down these days, not many things going in a way I actually like. I tend to become a nice guy whenever something bad is happening, and since I didn't get a warning from KBB for quite some time, I guess my life is all going down the drain :D
I'll make sure to read your blog and comment ^^ Feel better
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On August 21 2014 03:24 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:21 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays? because tod is currently flying in the land of the free and bunny and san.
I am flying to Detroit airport this afternoon, will there be a chance to see them?
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On August 21 2014 03:27 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:25 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:24 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 03:21 Undead1993 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays? because tod is currently flying in the land of the free and bunny and san. but not morrow It feels like all matches are replays somehow...
well that's probably because they are
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On August 21 2014 03:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:24 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:21 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:19 boxerfred wrote:
I sit here and refresh that thread since the game 2 started. I did not watch a second of the game. BRB, gonna get a fucking life. Or... http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCS Europe It's openend on another tab. I normally switch them while watching. Somehow I don't. I'll write a whiny blog post soon about my current life so you guys can encourage me. Alright? :D 5/5 if I get a shoutout I'm really down these days, not many things going in a way I actually like. I tend to become a nice guy whenever something bad is happening, and since I didn't get a warning from KBB for quite some time, I guess my life is all going down the drain :D I'll make sure to read your blog and comment ^^ Feel better
You'll get a shoutout, promise :D
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Is he singing the anthem to PigBaby's PvT?
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On August 21 2014 03:23 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:21 digmouse wrote:
Why is this match casted from replays? here is the whole clarification: + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 02:30 messioso wrote:
To clarify.
We had to play this series early due to too many conflicting travel arrangements. Unfortunately there are so many players attending events in the forthcoming weeks that if you include travel days it simply becomes impossible to schedule around them.
These matches were all played yesterday at the same time as Group A was for the following reasons:
San is living in Taiwan which is +6 hours from CEST. Meaning he would start at midnight, and potentially play until 5am. He has to catch a flight to Redbull Detroit early that morning and could potentially have to leave during play if we had long matches and he went to the decider match.
We suggested playing the group a few hours early to accommodate this, but ToD is currently on the west coast of the USA which is -9 hours from CEST. If we tried to play at the proposed 15:00 CEST, it would be 06:00 for him which would be inadequate for him. He also had to fly to Detroit at a similar time, as you may be aware of due to his tweets today! He will then be in Toronto for IEM the following week.
Bunny also flies to Redbull Detroit, Toronto and then onto China for WEC, which completely blocks off all other dates for the rest of the ro32 schedule.
Unfortunately Group A (the one played yesterday) also had similar issues with Snute and StarDust and so we had two groups with the exact same issues regarding scheduling and both requiring the same date to play. With this in mind, we had the choice of either forcing player(s) to miss certain events, or schedule around them, which was our preferred option as we do not wish to limit players attendance to any event.
Ultimately we decided to move the broadcast date of Group B from the 21st to the 20th to minimise the amount of time in which any leaks could occur and maintain the integrity of the broadcast. As we speak, only 4 people know the full results of the evening, which are two referees (myself and Shawn) and the two players who participated in the deciding match. All commentary is live and blind to results.
I apologise if the broadcasting from replays has had a negative experience on your evening, but you should know that this is always very much a last resort and we always intend to have matches played live and this is the first time this has happened in 6 seasons (48 groups) of WCS EU Premier.
Ah, understandable, thanks for the explanation.
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On August 21 2014 03:29 stuchiu wrote:
Is he singing the anthem to PigBaby's PvT?
Haha, not bad.
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I'd say San watched GSL but those are from replays.
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This observer jingle is pretty catchy
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Honestly, got to kick that guy out. Lagging an important match is not acceptable
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Well at least the players don't get the obs lag
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Wait, its a replay and we are still getting lag timeouts? what?
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On August 21 2014 03:33 Bagration wrote:
Honestly, got to kick that guy out. Lagging an important match is not acceptable
You are so right, the players might be disturbed!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I sometimes get the impression that all the casters favorite caster is Tasteless.
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On August 21 2014 03:33 Bagration wrote:
Honestly, got to kick that guy out. Lagging an important match is not acceptable
Luckily the players don't complain.
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On August 21 2014 03:34 Loccstana wrote:
Wait, its a replay and we are still getting lag timeouts? what?
The several casters are watching the replay alltogether. As messioso stated before, noone besides the 2 ESL admins and the players know how the games went.
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The preparatory Guardian shield.
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On August 21 2014 03:34 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:33 Bagration wrote:
Honestly, got to kick that guy out. Lagging an important match is not acceptable Luckily the players don't complain.
lol
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On August 21 2014 03:35 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:34 Loccstana wrote:
Wait, its a replay and we are still getting lag timeouts? what? The several casters are watching the replay alltogether. As messioso stated before, noone besides the 2 ESL admins and the players know how the games went.
This is why Starcraft 2 needs to switch over to the client server architecture instead.
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A mighty ducks flying V from Bunny with his vikings. Much awesome
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also what is up with casters and making bets they won't fulfill when it involves san?
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Lorning
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Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 6% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5) 29% ★★★- Good game (10) 59% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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I hate this kind of game, but it was pretty well executed by Bunny.
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SCV pulls are not the funniest thing to watch seriously
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On August 21 2014 03:36 Loccstana wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:35 boxerfred wrote:On August 21 2014 03:34 Loccstana wrote:
Wait, its a replay and we are still getting lag timeouts? what? The several casters are watching the replay alltogether. As messioso stated before, noone besides the 2 ESL admins and the players know how the games went. This is why Starcraft 2 needs to switch over to the client server architecture instead.
I'm sure that this is #1 priority at Blizzard.
This game felt a lot like "yeah, another tvp, fun"
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this reminds me of back in the day when every game was a 1-1-1 build
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:38 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 6% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5) 29% ★★★- Good game (10) 59% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Yes Bunny!!
Come on, one more for glory!
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On August 21 2014 03:38 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:38 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 6% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5) 29% ★★★- Good game (10) 59% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Have you seen a difference in voting habits since you've started hiding results?
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Thinking about it, wouldn't it be better if everything was cast from replays? Even if it were replays from 30 minutes ago, it would just protect the players from the stupid lag created by the absolute need to have 10 observers in every tournament game today ...
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that?
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This games are not the best. :/
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On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that?
Well, it's his job
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On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
Thinking about it, wouldn't it be better if everything was cast from replays? Even if it were replays from 30 minutes ago, it would just protect the players from the stupid lag created by the absolute need to have 10 observers in every tournament game today ...
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that?
I don't know, people have reacted poorly in the past when games have been cast from replays. Of course, being upfront with the fact that these are replays might help but I think people have grown to expect live matches now.
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On August 21 2014 03:42 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
Thinking about it, wouldn't it be better if everything was cast from replays? Even if it were replays from 30 minutes ago, it would just protect the players from the stupid lag created by the absolute need to have 10 observers in every tournament game today ...
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that? I don't know, people have reacted poorly in the past when games have been cast from replays. Of course, being upfront with the fact that these are replays might help but I think people have grown to expect live matches now.
While I like live games because they're live, what's the difference between a live game started with a 10 minute delay, and a game played 10 minutes ago?
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On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that?
Despite being a Protoss who hates having to deal with scv pulls, I don't see why people are so surprised that they occur so frequently. If a Terran player is going for a finishing blow, why not pull the scvs? They actually do something most of the time (worst case scenario is that they distract a few shots from the actual army), and you play to win...
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On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
Thinking about it, wouldn't it be better if everything was cast from replays? Even if it were replays from 30 minutes ago, it would just protect the players from the stupid lag created by the absolute need to have 10 observers in every tournament game today ...
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that?
Thats actually a pretty cool idea but there are not that much possibilities where this applys, most of the big tournaments where many casters are in the game are live with audience anyway
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On August 21 2014 03:42 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
Thinking about it, wouldn't it be better if everything was cast from replays? Even if it were replays from 30 minutes ago, it would just protect the players from the stupid lag created by the absolute need to have 10 observers in every tournament game today ...
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that? I don't know, people have reacted poorly in the past when games have been cast from replays. Of course, being upfront with the fact that these are replays might help but I think people have grown to expect live matches now.
But they look completely the same on the stream I also never thought about that but the lag issue really striked me, how easy that solution is to the problem that is now quite often present.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
the only bionic arm i recognize is spencer.
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I don't mind the dentist. I just HATE flossing. Hurts mah gums.
On August 21 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
the only bionic arm i recognize is spencer.
I know of Spencer and Coheed Kilgannon from The Amory Wars (Comic Book series by Coheed and Cambria's lead singer)
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On August 21 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
the only bionic arm i recognize is spencer.
What about Edward Elric?
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ooohhh i just got here i see Tod lost
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Why didn't he just attack probes in natural
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On August 21 2014 03:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that? Despite being a Protoss who hates having to deal with scv pulls, I don't see why people are so surprised that they occur so frequently. If a Terran player is going for a finishing blow, why not pull the scvs? They actually do something most of the time (worst case scenario is that they distract a few shots from the actual army), and you play to win...
We are not surprised.
We are appalled.
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On August 21 2014 03:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that? Despite being a Protoss who hates having to deal with scv pulls, I don't see why people are so surprised that they occur so frequently. If a Terran player is going for a finishing blow, why not pull the scvs? They actually do something most of the time (worst case scenario is that they distract a few shots from the actual army), and you play to win...
I am not surprised. If I played terran, I would probably do that as well But from spectactor perspective, they are not very fun - the chance of the game continuing for more than a minute is very slim - sither the pull wins or the terran is giraffeishly behind.
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On August 21 2014 03:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
the only bionic arm i recognize is spencer. What about Edward Elric?
He doesn't yell Bionic Arm! as he punches out cosmic horrors. He's cool though.
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Bunny, one more map and you earn 750€ more!!!
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On August 21 2014 03:47 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
the only bionic arm i recognize is spencer. What about Edward Elric? He doesn't yell Bionic Arm! as he punches out cosmic horrors. He's cool though.
since when does bud spencer have a bionic arm???
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On August 21 2014 03:47 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:47 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
the only bionic arm i recognize is spencer. What about Edward Elric? He doesn't yell Bionic Arm! as he punches out cosmic horrors. He's cool though. since when does bud spencer have a bionic arm???
this guy
![[image loading]](http://blogimg.ngfiles.com/579000/579801/125011456_Untitled.jpg)
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Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year. Those were the best TvP, PvT games ever.
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On August 21 2014 03:49 Don Jimbo wrote:
Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year.
or maybe let the players work it out
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On August 21 2014 03:43 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:42 Bagration wrote:On August 21 2014 03:40 opisska wrote:
Thinking about it, wouldn't it be better if everything was cast from replays? Even if it were replays from 30 minutes ago, it would just protect the players from the stupid lag created by the absolute need to have 10 observers in every tournament game today ...
On another note, SCV pull games are anything but "beautiful", how can Kalearis even say that? I don't know, people have reacted poorly in the past when games have been cast from replays. Of course, being upfront with the fact that these are replays might help but I think people have grown to expect live matches now. While I like live games because they're live, what's the difference between a live game started with a 10 minute delay, and a game played 10 minutes ago?
theres nothing gameplay wise but there is atmospherically you get to see a player freak out after a win that might not be there if casters are live and player isnt
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On August 21 2014 03:49 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:49 Don Jimbo wrote:
Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year. or maybe let the players work it out
This... Let the game live a bit.
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scv in the back for maximal value!!!
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture
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lol scvs stuck behind the bio. gg.
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you had one job, scv train and that was to be in front of the bio... <.<
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 10% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 60% ★★★- Good game (2) 20% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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BitbyBit must be proud of the TvP meta these days.
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SCV pull with no SCV fighting ><
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PvT used to be cool
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Well, that's definitely a contender for worst scv pull engage of the year.
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That was a terrible engagement. SCVs all at the back
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:51 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 10% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 60% ★★★- Good game (2) 20% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Terran who don't pull scvs:
Taeja
Polt
Maru
Suno
Terrans who pull scvs:
Everyone else
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Belgica34432 Posts
Don't quote me on this, but I think we might see an SCV pull next game
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On August 21 2014 03:49 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:49 Don Jimbo wrote:
Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year. or maybe let the players work it out
Opening Colossus is working it out though. Pulling SCVs is also working it out. Both decisions are perfectly logical given the state of the game. So we can except to see a lot of Colossus openings and a lot of SCV pulls. The players will just try to get better at those things, which still won't be fun to watch even if you get 50/50 win rates in terrible, boring games.
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On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture
Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. His opponent just wasn't prepared for the odd build.
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Why do you engage with the SCVs stuck behind =/
And clumping a good chunk of the vikings didnt help either
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On August 21 2014 03:49 Don Jimbo wrote:
Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year. Those were the best TvP, PvT games ever.
You're neglecting the main reason why Terran players even do these SCV pulls in the first place.....
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The spirit of BitbyBit lives on forever.
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I'd like to see a TvT. That'd be nice
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On August 21 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
Terran who don't pull scvs:
Taeja
Polt
Maru
Suno
Terrans who pull scvs:
Everyone else
I've never seen Bbyong pull scvs
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Bunny out in first, I believe.
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Suddenly they're distracted by the background
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On August 21 2014 03:53 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
Terran who don't pull scvs:
Taeja
Polt
Maru
Suno
Terrans who pull scvs:
Everyone else I've never seen Bbyong pull scvs
Oh you're right. That makes 5.
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On August 21 2014 03:53 Lorning wrote:
Suddenly they're distracted by the background
The banter is lacking.
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On August 21 2014 03:53 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:49 Don Jimbo wrote:
Colossus versus SCV pulls make for the most boring and terrible games. I hope Blizzard does something about it eventually. Maybe something as small as workers not benefiting from upgrades, or removing the widow mine shield damage buff so we see HT openings again and get games like Maru versus Dear from GSL season 3 last year. Those were the best TvP, PvT games ever. You're neglecting the main reason why Terran players even do these SCV pulls in the first place.....
Because they work!
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On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. His opponent just wasn't prepared for the odd build.
Yeah, this herO - Bbyong game was probably a one-time oddity between two teammates.
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On August 21 2014 03:54 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:53 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
Terran who don't pull scvs:
Taeja
Polt
Maru
Suno
Terrans who pull scvs:
Everyone else I've never seen Bbyong pull scvs Oh you're right. That makes 5.
I lied. It's still 4
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On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture
Depends on engagements. If you decide to send your army to meat grinder in a row then no upgrades will save them.
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On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem.
I guess the idea is more of even if you reverse the situation it still ends well for the protoss (when in theory the idea SHOULD be that the results are also flipped). And I understand WHY it worked, I just don't like it
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On August 21 2014 03:53 Lorning wrote:
Suddenly they're distracted by the background
ADD Apollo? Addollo?
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PvT's have gotten a lot more boring
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come on bunny!!!!!!!!! hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng!!!
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On August 21 2014 03:54 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. I guess the idea is more of even if you reverse the situation it still ends well for the protoss (when in theory the idea SHOULD be that the results are also flipped). And I understand WHY it worked, I just don't like it
Ah okay. Yeah you're also comparing herO to Morrow lol...
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On August 21 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. His opponent just wasn't prepared for the odd build. Yeah, this herO - Bbyong game was probably a one-time oddity between two teammates.
OR PROTOSS OP #halflife3confirmed (jk jk)
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On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring
I think it will take a while for protoss to figure out how to beat scv pulls. As seen in the last game, they are easily beatable, if the colossi shots land in the bio. But if they engage the scvs instead, the protoss dies horribly.
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On August 21 2014 03:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:54 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. I guess the idea is more of even if you reverse the situation it still ends well for the protoss (when in theory the idea SHOULD be that the results are also flipped). And I understand WHY it worked, I just don't like it Ah okay. Yeah you're also comparing herO to Morrow lol...
To a point if you scale down both players skill level the same ideas should hold true. Obviously not the case if youre comparing say herO vs bbyong and two plat players.
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On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring
Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf.
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On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf.
Well if san wasn't so good with warping in templar than the amulet would still be here
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On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring
I guess you enjoyed the blink all-ins times more ? I prefer that, at least sometimes the game normalizes after the scv pull and it can get fun. (and I must admit I find those scv trains quite hilarious, but that's undoubtedly a not widespread personal taste)
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On August 21 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. His opponent just wasn't prepared for the odd build. Yeah, this herO - Bbyong game was probably a one-time oddity between two teammates.
Nope. herO beat even Cure with that build.
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On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf.
San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT.
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Bunny only scouted the twilight, but not the blink, right? isn't it a bit careless to not start an engineering bay?
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Poll: Will Bunny pull the boys again?(Vote): Yeah
(Vote): Nah
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On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT.
Artosis still owes us a sword
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On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT.
That's because every protoss all inned before they got to HT tech
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On August 21 2014 03:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring I guess you enjoyed the blink all-ins times more ? I prefer that, at least sometimes the game normalizes after the scv pull and it can get fun.
Zealot archon was also quite imba on some maps
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On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT.
It was painful as hell in ZvP though, especially without self healing Mutas.
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On August 21 2014 03:58 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. His opponent just wasn't prepared for the odd build. Yeah, this herO - Bbyong game was probably a one-time oddity between two teammates. Nope. herO beat even Cure with that build.
During redbull ? I remember him winning quite decisively with phoenix colossi on KSS, not doing the no forges style.
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On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT.
It's an ongoing thing. Khaydarin Amulet nerf was the beginning, the Widow Mine buffs are the most recent. Patching has strongly favoured Colossus over Templar.
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On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring
Yup. SCV nerf incoming?
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On August 21 2014 03:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT. Artosis still owes us a sword
Explain please? (why does Artosis owe us a sword and when can we get said sword?)
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On August 21 2014 04:00 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT. It's an ongoing thing. Khaydarin Amulet nerf was the beginning, the Widow Mine buffs are the most recent. Patching has strongly favoured Colossus over Templar.
Shoulda nerfed Collosus into the ground. Stupid PvZ ruining PvT.
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On August 21 2014 04:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Yup. SCV nerf incoming?
Already happened in WoL beta. Remember when SCVs had 60 life?
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I don't see Bunny winning this one
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Huh. Those sentries worth the units lost? Never know the specifics, PvT. @_@
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On August 21 2014 04:01 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:00 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT. It's an ongoing thing. Khaydarin Amulet nerf was the beginning, the Widow Mine buffs are the most recent. Patching has strongly favoured Colossus over Templar. Shoulda nerfed Collosus into the ground. Stupid PvZ ruining PvT.
It has been my perpetual wish that Colossi cease to exist. Worst unit in the game, with the possible exception of Swarm Hosts.
I mean, it's not even like Colossi are a fun unit in PvZ or PvP either.
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On August 21 2014 04:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Yup. SCV nerf incoming? Already happened in WoL beta. Remember when SCVs had 60 life?
Why would they have more what is fair about that.
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Ahem... I'm not sure if I agree with Bunny's decision to run into those sentries under such heavy fire.
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On August 21 2014 04:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Yup. SCV nerf incoming? Already happened in WoL beta. Remember when SCVs had 60 life?
man, we should totally start playing broodwar and scv-pull all races.
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Bunny far behind now I think.
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On August 21 2014 04:00 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT. It's an ongoing thing. Khaydarin Amulet nerf was the beginning, the Widow Mine buffs are the most recent. Patching has strongly favoured Colossus over Templar.
I think its because HT are easier to use in many way vs collosi. In regards to defending drops you can have a templar at the base and if you notice in time you can feedback/storm and generally shoo away or kill the drop. Compared to keeping a collosus just chilling in your bases.
This is especially true at low low levels where keeping defending a drop with a templar is much easier than dropping as a terran. And extreme high level where the same is true.
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On August 21 2014 04:00 thebigrobo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT. Artosis still owes us a sword Explain please? (why does Artosis owe us a sword and when can we get said sword?)
San got stuck in a group with Boxer, Nestea and Ensnare. Ensnare was a regular Code S player. Boxer was doing pretty good during that time. Nestea was Nestea.
San was renowned for havng the shortest average game time of below 8 minutes because he died to 4 gate/cannon/proxy every game. When going into the group, he said in his interview was to last past 8 minutes. Artosis said if San won out, he would swallow a sword.
San won out.
2 years later Artosis has yet to swallow a sword.
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make upgrade- nvm, here come the boys, this won't end well for bunny.
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San should have just sat on 2 base and absorbed the scv pull like how bbyong lost in gsl
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On August 21 2014 04:00 thebigrobo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT. Artosis still owes us a sword Explain please? (why does Artosis owe us a sword and when can we get said sword?)
Pretty sure he made a prediction where the penalty was swallowing a sword, and he lost the bet.
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Another slaughter incoming, San has the perfect setup to hold a scv pull.
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On August 21 2014 04:00 thebigrobo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT. Artosis still owes us a sword Explain please? (why does Artosis owe us a sword and when can we get said sword?)
Many years ago artosis said if San got through his GSL group (consisting of Nestea, who at the time was an unkillable monster and a few others) he would swallow a sword. San decimated that group.
For more context at the time San was literally one of the worst professionals to ever play in the GSL, having pylon blocked his own nexus on metalopolis at the time among a few other really "rookie mistakes"
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Chugga chugga chugga CHOO CHOO
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Is... is it happening?
Edit: No. No it is not happening. :C
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Europa hält nicht. ((((((
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2-2 zealots, you don't kill them ^^
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Is it because san is so good, or does bunny's scv pull suck compared to heromarine?
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Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11) 69% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 19% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 21 2014 03:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Will Bunny pull the boys again?(Vote): Yeah
(Vote): Nah
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tvp are boring in the eu scene.
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Happy for San to win because although I like Bunny I really want to see a TvT between MorroW and Bunny.
Let's go MorroW!
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On August 21 2014 04:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
That one guy with hope
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Fucking Korean protosses.
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Those tweets timing are so funny^^
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On August 21 2014 04:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 03:58 sharkie wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else find it silly that a protoss with no upgrades vs a 2-2 terran still ends well for the toss (ala hero) AND a protoss on 2-2 vs a 2-0 terran also ends well for the toss?
I feel like something is just wrong with that picture Um well that's actually consistent (if a Protoss can win with less upgrades, he can certainly win the more upgrades), but herO's upgrade-less set was unique and had such fast research and a high unit count that the splash damage and general unit composition trumped the upgrade problem. His opponent just wasn't prepared for the odd build. Yeah, this herO - Bbyong game was probably a one-time oddity between two teammates. Nope. herO beat even Cure with that build. During redbull ? I remember him winning quite decisively with phoenix colossi on KSS, not doing the no forges style.
oh right, then it was yoda!
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On August 21 2014 04:06 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11) 69% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 19% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Why does Bunny do an SCV pull against protoss 2-2...Didn't he know the double forge?
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I think Bunny will still beat Morrow and advance though. Bold call I know
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On August 21 2014 04:06 Mambo wrote:
Fucking Korean protosses.
Fucking foreign Terrans.
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That was actually quite close, but I'm quite disappointed with Bunny's showing. SCV pulls are strong but not as strong as "I'm going to do it, you know it and you can't counter it even if you're a top Protoss player". Doesn't work.
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On August 21 2014 04:06 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 21 2014 03:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Will Bunny pull the boys again?(Vote): Yeah
(Vote): Nah
That one guy with hope
I stand to my decision!!!
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On August 21 2014 04:02 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:00 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:58 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 03:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On August 21 2014 03:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:PvT's have gotten a lot more boring Legacy of the Khaydarin Amulet nerf. San was literally the only Protoss who used it. I'm pretty certain no other Protosses even realized HTs were good in PvT. It's an ongoing thing. Khaydarin Amulet nerf was the beginning, the Widow Mine buffs are the most recent. Patching has strongly favoured Colossus over Templar. I think its because HT are easier to use in many way vs collosi. In regards to defending drops you can have a templar at the base and if you notice in time you can feedback/storm and generally shoo away or kill the drop. Compared to keeping a collosus just chilling in your bases. This is especially true at low low levels where keeping defending a drop with a templar is much easier than dropping as a terran. And extreme high level where the same is true.
I don't know, at low level having the awareness and multitask to use Templar efficiently at multiple places before they die is pretty hard. Colossi, on the other hand, encourage deathballing which is what Protoss is most criticised of in the first place.
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Is the "pull the boys" move still standard on this mu meta? I have the impression that koreans are not doing it every time anymore.
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Well MorroW is in a tight spot. Either he loses and no one is surprised, or he wins and everyone becomes salty that he beat Bunny.
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Why is it that even native English speakers seemingly cannot tell the difference between consolation and consolidation? No one gets it right, ever. A third place match is not a consolidation match, it's a consolation match. A third nexus is not a consolidation prize, no such thing even exists.
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On August 21 2014 04:07 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:06 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 21 2014 04:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 21 2014 03:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Will Bunny pull the boys again?(Vote): Yeah
(Vote): Nah
That one guy with hope I stand to my decision!!!
Somehow after its over someone new decided he might not do it again either
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Why do they even bother playing... just fucking give both players 150 pop let the terran pull his SCVS and lets watch the fight... thats all it comes down to each time and whoever wins, wins the game. THIS IS SO FUCKING LAME, im at work so im not even watching properly but every time I tab over its the same shit lol
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Time for Morrow to shine!
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On August 21 2014 04:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Fucking foreign Terrans.
Those wasically wabbits!
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Liquid not looking so good. Bunny might advance, but his play seems lackluster. Snute played horribly yesterday. What a bad time to be bad :/
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On August 21 2014 04:08 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:07 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 21 2014 04:06 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 21 2014 04:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On August 21 2014 03:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Will Bunny pull the boys again?(Vote): Yeah
(Vote): Nah
That one guy with hope I stand to my decision!!! Somehow after its over someone new decided he might not do it again either
I still think Bunny's execution was lacking. Although I am aware that it was against a weaker opponent, Heromarine's scv pull in the EPS timing looked much more stronger. Heck, didn't he do that six time in a row and rushed Patience and Showtime?
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SCV pull seems to be the immortal sentry all-in of HotS.
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That's actually the first time San beat Bunny. Bunny beat San in bo3s in their other 2 meetings in online tournaments
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As much as I was cheering for Bunny, this type of bias casting makes me mute the stream.
Foreigner favoritism ruined so many good casters. Lets cast the game not jerk off your favorite player.
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On August 21 2014 04:09 SmoKim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:06 Mambo wrote:
Fucking Korean protosses. Fucking foreign Terrans. Those wasically wabbits!
The bright side is that one Korean protoss and one foreign Terran advanced from this group ^^
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Bunny pls
Dont go out in the ro32
you can do this!
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All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^
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Morrow played better TvP than Bunny tonight, no?
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Don't worry, the fact that he can so easily admit that the TvP was bad kind of hints that he made it through over morrow.
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Poll: Head?Bunny (4) 57% Morrow (3) 43% 7 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Morrow
(Vote): Bunny
Poll: Heart?Bunny (5) 63% Morrow (3) 38% 8 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Morrow
(Vote): Bunny
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Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose this season play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014
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On August 21 2014 04:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:09 SmoKim wrote:On August 21 2014 04:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:06 Mambo wrote:
Fucking Korean protosses. Fucking foreign Terrans. Those wasically wabbits! The bright side is that one Korean protoss and one foreign Terran advanced from this group ^^
Denmark or Sweden
such hard choice
who to pick?
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I'm rooting for Morrow. He showed creative and interesting game play while Bunny just pulled the boys over and over. Go Morrow!
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On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose today play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014
Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. We used to have GSL seasons all the way through November/first week of December
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On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^
At least he's lucid about what he gave us. I'm sure he can play some good TvP too.
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missed san-bunny, how was it
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On August 21 2014 04:13 Don Jimbo wrote:
I'm rooting for Morrow. He showed creative and interesting game play while Bunny just pulled the boys over and over. Go Morrow!
Word!
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^
1. You guys are posting (what you think is) a spoiler. Don't.
2. That tweet doesn't actually give away the series for me, one way or the other. It seems like a pretty impartial tweet that + Show Spoiler +Bunny wasn't happy with his play.
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On August 21 2014 04:13 brickrd wrote:
missed san-bunny, how was it
not that exciting. a bunch of scv pulls
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On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose this season play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014
2/3 through 2014
On August 21 2014 04:13 Shellshock wrote:not that exciting. a bunch of scv pulls
so basically tvp
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On August 21 2014 04:13 brickrd wrote:
missed san-bunny, how was it
Pretty meh tbh.
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On August 21 2014 04:13 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose today play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014 Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. We used to have GSL seasons all the way through November/first week of December
I wonder if letting the GSL do their thing and have more GSLs than WCS AM/EU would help fix the WCS KR player points problem. It would be harder on blizzard as if the GSL ended in november they wouldn't know who they were flying out until the end, but adding in an additional GSL to the year would be really good for the Korean players who can't really leave
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I'll root for Bunny because with a good run he has a shot at making it to Blizzcon. But yeah, pretty lackluster style today.
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On August 21 2014 04:14 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose this season play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014 2/3 through 2014
232/365.
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Damn. Why like this, really wanted Bunny and Morrow
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On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^
Scarlett tweets in the middle of games, that's the only reason she goes SH, more APM freed up for tweeting.
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On August 21 2014 04:13 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose today play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014 Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. We used to have GSL seasons all the way through November/first week of December
I think it's because Blizzcon is in October, which sucks because it will leave like a 4 month offseason to 2015, where I hope they can implement a better strategy for WCS. I also think they rush Challenger too much. I don't really like the format.
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On August 21 2014 04:13 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose today play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014 Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. We used to have GSL seasons all the way through November/first week of December
Most sports has off seasons where players/teams retool and refocus. I think an actual break without many appearances for few months is a good thing for the longevity of the players and tournaments.
It could give opportunities for lower players to shine, like how arena league plays when NFL isn't playing.
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On August 21 2014 04:16 yido wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:13 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose today play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014 Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. We used to have GSL seasons all the way through November/first week of December Most sports has off seasons where players/teams retool and refocus. I think an actual break without many appearances for few months is a good thing for the longevity of the players and tournaments. It could give opportunities for lower players to shine, like how arena league plays when NFL isn't playing.
arena football still exists?!?
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On August 21 2014 04:15 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^ Scarlett tweets in the middle of games, that's the only reason she goes SH, more APM freed up for tweeting.
I thought she went SH cause she liked winning.
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On August 21 2014 04:16 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:13 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose today play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014 Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. We used to have GSL seasons all the way through November/first week of December I think it's because Blizzcon is in October, which sucks because it will leave like a 4 month offseason to 2015, where I hope they can implement a better strategy for WCS. I also think they rush Challenger too much. I don't really like the format.
What about the Korean version?
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On August 21 2014 04:18 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:15 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^ Scarlett tweets in the middle of games, that's the only reason she goes SH, more APM freed up for tweeting. I thought she went SH cause she liked winning.
That's why she makes mutas
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On August 21 2014 04:18 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:15 Squat wrote:On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^ Scarlett tweets in the middle of games, that's the only reason she goes SH, more APM freed up for tweeting. I thought she went SH cause she liked winning.
That's a bonus. Tweeting > winning.
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Hmmm... What ??? Was Morrow tweeting ?
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This is like the 8th time since the patch I've seen this 2 tanks, 8 marine 2 medivac 1 raven drop.
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MorroW....duuude....you're better than this.
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On August 21 2014 04:15 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^ Scarlett tweets in the middle of games, that's the only reason she goes SH, more APM freed up for tweeting.
My favorite case of afking in games was when Nerchio had a game on Newkirk vs meching terran and went to play minesweeper in middle of it.
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Nice map awareness Morrow...........
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On August 21 2014 04:19 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:16 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 04:13 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose today play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014 Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. We used to have GSL seasons all the way through November/first week of December I think it's because Blizzcon is in October, which sucks because it will leave like a 4 month offseason to 2015, where I hope they can implement a better strategy for WCS. I also think they rush Challenger too much. I don't really like the format. What about the Korean version?
I like Code A, I just think shoving Challenger into 3 days kills the hype a bit.
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can't help it but feel so sad about mvp
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On August 21 2014 04:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^ 1. You guys are posting (what you think is) a spoiler. Don't. 2. That tweet doesn't actually give away the series for me, one way or the other. It seems like a pretty impartial tweet that + Show Spoiler +Bunny wasn't happy with his play.
spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +I just can't believe someone would watch the broadcast and time a tweet like that if he actually lost. Maybe it's just me, but watching the series and tweeting between the replays would be the last thing I wanted to do if I had just lost my hopes of going to blizzcon.
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On August 21 2014 04:21 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:19 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 04:16 vult wrote:On August 21 2014 04:13 Shellshock wrote:On August 21 2014 04:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Anyone else think its crazy to think about how the next time players who lose today play in WCS is in 2015. We're only a little over halfway through 2014 Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. We used to have GSL seasons all the way through November/first week of December I think it's because Blizzcon is in October, which sucks because it will leave like a 4 month offseason to 2015, where I hope they can implement a better strategy for WCS. I also think they rush Challenger too much. I don't really like the format. What about the Korean version? I like Code A, I just think shoving Challenger into 3 days kills the hype a bit.
I wish that the entire WCS format was just the GSL in AM or EU. I can forgive the online setting because of the lack of centralized location. But come on. The fact that the ro16 stays in AM or EU vs the top 8 in Korea. The fact that "challenger" is groups in Korea and matches in AM or EU.
EDIT: And I fucking hate losers match first
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Yay, one more win to keep the dream alive
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 50% ★★★- Good game (2) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 13% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp
There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully.
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On August 21 2014 04:21 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^ 1. You guys are posting (what you think is) a spoiler. Don't. 2. That tweet doesn't actually give away the series for me, one way or the other. It seems like a pretty impartial tweet that + Show Spoiler +Bunny wasn't happy with his play. spoiler: + Show Spoiler +I just can't believe someone would watch the broadcast and time a tweet like that if he actually lost. Maybe it's just me, but watching the series and tweeting between the replays would be the last thing I wanted to do if I had just lost my hopes of going to blizzcon.
Yeah I think you're right and that's what went through my mind too when I saw that tweet.
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I think i just changed my quote to the best thing ever
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On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully.
Well not no reason. He barely lost to Stork and got to a semifinals in the RB Online qualifier.
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On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully.
He almost beat Stork in the KeSPA Cup qualifier with really good play. I think he would have done well in this group.
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On August 21 2014 04:25 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:21 Zheryn wrote:On August 21 2014 04:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^ 1. You guys are posting (what you think is) a spoiler. Don't. 2. That tweet doesn't actually give away the series for me, one way or the other. It seems like a pretty impartial tweet that + Show Spoiler +Bunny wasn't happy with his play. spoiler: + Show Spoiler +I just can't believe someone would watch the broadcast and time a tweet like that if he actually lost. Maybe it's just me, but watching the series and tweeting between the replays would be the last thing I wanted to do if I had just lost my hopes of going to blizzcon. Yeah I think you're right and that's what went through my mind too when I saw that tweet.
ToD's tweet during his game was also a spoiler. He said there was a long line at the airport . . . "it's a good thing I got here early" or something like that. There was an emoticon after it. I was pretty sure he was going to be the first guy eliminated when I saw that. It seemed like an attempt to be cute about how being the first person out enabling him to be early to the airport
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On August 21 2014 04:27 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully. Well not no reason. He barely lost to Stork and got to a semifinals in the RB Online qualifier.
Which qualifier ? I can't seem to remember Mvp making a semifinals.
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On August 21 2014 04:27 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully. Well not no reason. He barely lost to Stork and got to a semifinals in the RB Online qualifier.
true but i dont understand this mentality. if youre going to get sad when an inferior player wins a series by temporarily playing better then throw out all groups and brackets and just make everything all invite. naturally anyone can imagine how dumb that would be
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On August 21 2014 04:28 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully. He almost beat Stork in the KeSPA Cup qualifier with really good play. I think he would have done well in this group.
Ah, I missed them. It's sad then, but good at the same time because SC2 needs people like Mvp to still perform if their body allows them to do so.
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On August 21 2014 04:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:27 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully. Well not no reason. He barely lost to Stork and got to a semifinals in the RB Online qualifier. Which qualifier ? I can't seem to remember Mvp making a semifinals.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Global/Qualifiers_1
Beat ToD, Kangho, Ryung and Snute before losing to Polt.
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Very slow reaction to the hellions
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Nice aggressive game so far
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On August 21 2014 04:30 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:27 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully. Well not no reason. He barely lost to Stork and got to a semifinals in the RB Online qualifier. true but i dont understand this mentality. if youre going to get sad when an inferior player wins a series by temporarily playing better then throw out all groups and brackets and just make everything all invite. naturally anyone can imagine how dumb that would be
im not sad?
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Melinda-esque banshee there.
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Both hate the working class heroes
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whats happening whos winning game 2? (twitch is banned at school
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Very aggressive hellion harass. I like it.
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On August 21 2014 04:33 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:27 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully. Well not no reason. He barely lost to Stork and got to a semifinals in the RB Online qualifier. Which qualifier ? I can't seem to remember Mvp making a semifinals. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Global/Qualifiers_1Beat ToD, Kangho, Ryung and Snute before losing to Polt.
Ah, but that was global, not online. Still I admit you were right, Mvp seems on good form currently and it's quite sad he couldn't make it past Morrow.
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Perfect turret timing
Really action packed game so far
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and nobody is surprised since after the tweet. this is why you don't cast from replays man. :-/
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Morrow didn't siege his tanks. gg.
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Every tank unsieged is a sad way to lose a TvT series.
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On August 21 2014 04:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:33 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 04:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:27 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:21 Undead1993 wrote:can't help it but feel so sad about mvp There is alas no reason to think he'd have done better than Morrow today (I think Mvp even lost to ToD in last WCS EU), and Morrow earned his place rightfully. Well not no reason. He barely lost to Stork and got to a semifinals in the RB Online qualifier. Which qualifier ? I can't seem to remember Mvp making a semifinals. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Global/Qualifiers_1Beat ToD, Kangho, Ryung and Snute before losing to Polt. Ah, but that was global, not online. Still I admit you were right, Mvp seems on good form currently and it's quite sad he couldn't make it past Morrow.
After that qualifier I expected MVP 3-0. Really really surprised when Morrow took a game, let alone won.
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On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan
What?
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And there he goes!
GG Bunny!!
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On August 21 2014 04:35 JustPassingBy wrote:
and nobody is surprised since after the tweet. this is why you don't cast from replays man. :-/
Since I dont use twitter, this was hardly a problem for me.
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Oh boy, that was anticlimatic
Morrow so occupied with harrasing he didnt siege the tanks :/
GGs, Bunnys through!
Group played out kind of crazy but San/Bunny is what most of the people expected to advance i guess
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Foreign terrans and their lack of multitasking. :/
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On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:What?
Local Area Network
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On August 21 2014 04:25 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:21 Zheryn wrote:On August 21 2014 04:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On August 21 2014 04:12 Zheryn wrote:All games from replays right? Looks like Bunny will go through then, or would he really tweet that during the middle of the cast if he already went out? ^^ 1. You guys are posting (what you think is) a spoiler. Don't. 2. That tweet doesn't actually give away the series for me, one way or the other. It seems like a pretty impartial tweet that + Show Spoiler +Bunny wasn't happy with his play. spoiler: + Show Spoiler +I just can't believe someone would watch the broadcast and time a tweet like that if he actually lost. Maybe it's just me, but watching the series and tweeting between the replays would be the last thing I wanted to do if I had just lost my hopes of going to blizzcon. Yeah I think you're right and that's what went through my mind too when I saw that tweet.
Yep, turns out you were right Zheryn.
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On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:What?
sorry, bad joke, game is laggy
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?Results are hidden by the poll creator.
6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?Results are hidden by the poll creator.
5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Morrow's mechanics just aren't where they need to be.
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agh every day i get back and catch the end of the last game
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On August 21 2014 04:37 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?Results are hidden by the poll creator.
6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?Results are hidden by the poll creator.
5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network
Do we really want chat channels?
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I think this was a pretty good result for Morrow considering.
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San and Bunny advancing is not surprising, but the general sloppiness of the games was disappointing.
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Bunny's tweet really kinda ruined the last series :s
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Good and strange games today! Predictable results though. GGs!
See y'all next time :D
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Lags were visibly bad. Ruined the game quality.
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On August 21 2014 04:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
San and Bunny advancing is not surprising, but the general sloppiness of the games was disappointing.
This is pretty good summary of the day i think lol
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On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network
I know what LAN stands for I just didn't know why, because there was no lag...
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On August 21 2014 04:39 sharkie wrote:
Bunny's tweet really kinda ruined the last series :s
People posting the tweet and the analysis of that tweet in this LR thread was a far worse offense. Don't know why people would check the players' twitters when they know that the games were replays. Obviously they might get spoiled >.>
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On August 21 2014 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network I know what LAN stands for I just didn't know why, because there was no lag...
ye there was, clear lag
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On August 21 2014 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network I know what LAN stands for I just didn't know why, because there was no lag...
I agree, pointing out obvious things out is a guilty pleasure tho
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On August 21 2014 04:39 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
San and Bunny advancing is not surprising, but the general sloppiness of the games was disappointing. This is pretty good summary of the day i think lol
Alas ! I had reasonable expectations going into this group, and in the end we barely got any good game.
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On August 21 2014 04:40 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network I know what LAN stands for I just didn't know why, because there was no lag... I agree, pointing out obvious things out is a guilty pleasure tho
Fair enough lol
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On August 21 2014 04:40 Heinsenzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network I know what LAN stands for I just didn't know why, because there was no lag... ye there was, clear lag
Morrow didn't lose to Bunny because of lag -_____-'
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 21 2014 04:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:39 BlackCompany wrote:On August 21 2014 04:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
San and Bunny advancing is not surprising, but the general sloppiness of the games was disappointing. This is pretty good summary of the day i think lol Alas ! I had reasonable expectations going into this group, and in the end we barely got any good game.
Really good games last night in GSL. Specifically TY vs TRUE, TRUE vs Dear, Dear vs Parting
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On August 21 2014 04:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:40 Heinsenzerg wrote:On August 21 2014 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network I know what LAN stands for I just didn't know why, because there was no lag... ye there was, clear lag Morrow didn't lose to Bunny because of lag -_____-'
so?
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On August 21 2014 04:41 Heinsenzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:40 Heinsenzerg wrote:On August 21 2014 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network I know what LAN stands for I just didn't know why, because there was no lag... ye there was, clear lag Morrow didn't lose to Bunny because of lag -_____-' so?
So LAN has nothing to do with it, and I think at this point you're just trolling so I'm going to leave now Have a good day. Congrats to San and Bunny.
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On August 21 2014 04:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:41 Heinsenzerg wrote:On August 21 2014 04:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:40 Heinsenzerg wrote:On August 21 2014 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 Muffloe wrote:On August 21 2014 04:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 21 2014 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
we want lan What? Local Area Network I know what LAN stands for I just didn't know why, because there was no lag... ye there was, clear lag Morrow didn't lose to Bunny because of lag -_____-' so? So LAN has nothing to do with it, and I think at this point you're just trolling so I'm going to leave now Have a good day. Congrats to San and Bunny.
i just complained there was lag, i didnt care about the results, you put words on my mouth, or intentions in my phrases if you will
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On August 21 2014 04:41 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:39 BlackCompany wrote:On August 21 2014 04:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
San and Bunny advancing is not surprising, but the general sloppiness of the games was disappointing. This is pretty good summary of the day i think lol Alas ! I had reasonable expectations going into this group, and in the end we barely got any good game. Really good games last night in GSL. Specifically TY vs TRUE, TRUE vs Dear, Dear vs Parting
Ya the GSL day was amazing. The games in EU were sloppy but it wasnt too bad, atleast for me. The SCV pull TvPs were bad but i wasnt bored tonight :p
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On August 21 2014 04:41 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 21 2014 04:39 BlackCompany wrote:On August 21 2014 04:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
San and Bunny advancing is not surprising, but the general sloppiness of the games was disappointing. This is pretty good summary of the day i think lol Alas ! I had reasonable expectations going into this group, and in the end we barely got any good game. Really good games last night in GSL. Specifically TY vs TRUE, TRUE vs Dear, Dear vs Parting
Yeah I saw them (in the morning/afternoon for me). They were pretty good (TRUE contributed a lot to it with his entertaining unique playstyle) indeed and comparing this morning GSL games to the ones we just saw will be very harsh for EU.
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this was probably the only Ro32 group I will be able to see this season and it was so lame
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I wasn't at all happy with the lag viewing the games. It's been two days in a row for this tournament.
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Lag killed the game already? Not surprised. Though it seems to lag more in EU than in AM, even though EU supposedly has better Internet?
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I want to see Flash vs Bunny (at blizzcon).
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China6327 Posts
On August 21 2014 05:20 geokilla wrote:
Lag killed the game already? Not surprised. Though it seems to lag more in EU than in AM, even though EU supposedly has better Internet?
Pretty sure the lag only affects the casting as the majority (all?) of the games are casted from replays. Plus the lags mostly came from the Russian casters who live in you know, Russia.
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Bummed that Le ToD couldn't make it through, but happy to see that Bunny did.
Gratz.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 21 2014 06:06 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 05:20 geokilla wrote:
Lag killed the game already? Not surprised. Though it seems to lag more in EU than in AM, even though EU supposedly has better Internet? Pretty sure the lag only affects the casting as the majority (all?) of the games are casted from replays. Plus the lags mostly came from the Russian casters who live in you know, Russia.
As far as I know this day was the only day to be replay casted, because ToD was flying to IEM or something like that?
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On August 21 2014 13:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 06:06 digmouse wrote:On August 21 2014 05:20 geokilla wrote:
Lag killed the game already? Not surprised. Though it seems to lag more in EU than in AM, even though EU supposedly has better Internet? Pretty sure the lag only affects the casting as the majority (all?) of the games are casted from replays. Plus the lags mostly came from the Russian casters who live in you know, Russia. As far as I know this day was the only day to be replay casted, because ToD was flying to IEM or something like that?
Two players were travelling to Redbull Detroit
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