• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:51
CET 13:51
KST 21:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1298 users

[Code S] Ro32 Group D Season 3 2014 - Page 14

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 46 Next All
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 13 2014 10:17 GMT
#261
On August 13 2014 19:15 Nirel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:15 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:13 yoshi245 wrote:
That's some old school Thorzain stuff. I remember him using Bio+Thor against MC on Crossfire during TSL 3.

Didn't they nerf the thor after this?

yes they did

I would be extraordinarily disappointed if that happened again because of a single player.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
August 13 2014 10:17 GMT
#262
On August 13 2014 19:15 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:13 Pino wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:08 TheDwf wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:07 Pino wrote:
Finally someone makes thor vs phoenix !!

And it wasn't even useful since Stats didn't commit to Phoenixes.


Yeah but you got the concept. See phoenixes, makes thor.

It's a possibility, not an obligation.

I prefered Flash response. Take 5 bases and makes 3 starports with reactors. Then YOLO-attack.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 13 2014 10:17 GMT
#263
On August 13 2014 19:16 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
As much as I loved the thors, you could clearly see their limits once a certain mass of chargelot archon was reached. Then again Bbyong's ghost control in those fights was not pristine.

Edit : I still think some thors are a really excellent answer to phoenix play in TvP. Thors burst heavy amounts of ground damage and virtually make your viking fleet untouchable by the phoenix.

Well thors are worthless when there is many chargelots, so yeah. I think it looked cooler than it was.


It probably looked stronger than it is, but it doesn't get a lot cooler than this ^^. Come on, Thors in TvP !!!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 13 2014 10:17 GMT
#264
On August 13 2014 19:16 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
As much as I loved the thors, you could clearly see their limits once a certain mass of chargelot archon was reached. Then again Bbyong's ghost control in those fights was not pristine.

Edit : I still think some thors are a really excellent answer to phoenix play in TvP. Thors burst heavy amounts of ground damage and virtually make your viking fleet untouchable by the phoenix.

Well thors are worthless when there is many chargelots, so yeah. I think it looked cooler than it was.


I think thors might just be a hard counter to phoenix colossus in general, yes you can get chargelots but you won't be able to afford charge + colossus + colossus range + phoenix and unupgraded zealots are not at all impressive.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 13 2014 10:17 GMT
#265
On August 13 2014 19:15 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:12 BlackCompany wrote:
I've never understood all the Protoss that warp in 2 Zealots vs 2 full medivacs.. and then 10 seconds later 2 more zealots. Just save your warp ins, the zealots will die and the base aswell if you warp them in 2 by 2 Tt

That thor killed like 15 units one by one as Stats kept warping them in. Even got a HT. Might as well just warp in the main and get a larger force


Thats my point, its just useless to warp them in direcetly in front of the enemy. If its like 8 marines and you warp in 10 zealots, sure it works. But that was bad judgemend by Stats :/
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 13 2014 10:18 GMT
#266
On August 13 2014 19:17 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:16 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
As much as I loved the thors, you could clearly see their limits once a certain mass of chargelot archon was reached. Then again Bbyong's ghost control in those fights was not pristine.

Edit : I still think some thors are a really excellent answer to phoenix play in TvP. Thors burst heavy amounts of ground damage and virtually make your viking fleet untouchable by the phoenix.

Well thors are worthless when there is many chargelots, so yeah. I think it looked cooler than it was.


I think thors might just be a hard counter to phoenix colossus in general, yes you can get chargelots but you won't be able to afford charge + colossus + colossus range + phoenix and unupgraded zealots are not at all impressive.

Of course you can. There are different variants of Phoenix/Colossus play, not all of them commit to second Stargate + Fleet Beacon + Phoenixes upgrades.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2014 10:18 GMT
#267
On August 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote:
[Code S] Ro32 Group D S3 2014
[image loading] (P)Stats vs. [image loading] (T)Bbyong
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: King Sejong Station

0:00
Stats spawns in the top left
Bbyong spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for Bbyong
gateway first for Stats
gas for Bbyong

2:00
gas for Stats
reaper for Bbyong
cybernetics core for Stats

3:00
zealot for Stats
Nexus for Stats
reactor for Bbyong
MSC for Stats
CC on the low ground for Bbyong
gas steal from Bbyong

4:00
stalker for Stats
2nd gas for Stats
2 more rax for Bbyong
reaper in the main of Stats starting to harass
2nd stalker for Stats

5:00
robo for Stats
tech lab for Bbyong
another stalker for Stats
Marauder production started for Bbyong
concussive shells for Bbyong
2nd gate for Stats
another gas for Bbyong
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
August 13 2014 10:19 GMT
#268
On August 13 2014 19:18 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote:
[Code S] Ro32 Group D S3 2014
[image loading] (P)Stats vs. [image loading] (T)Bbyong
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: King Sejong Station

0:00
Stats spawns in the top left
Bbyong spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for Bbyong
gateway first for Stats
gas for Bbyong

2:00
gas for Stats
reaper for Bbyong
cybernetics core for Stats

3:00
zealot for Stats
Nexus for Stats
reactor for Bbyong
MSC for Stats
CC on the low ground for Bbyong
gas steal from Bbyong

4:00
stalker for Stats
2nd gas for Stats
2 more rax for Bbyong
reaper in the main of Stats starting to harass
2nd stalker for Stats

5:00
robo for Stats
tech lab for Bbyong
another stalker for Stats
Marauder production started for Bbyong
concussive shells for Bbyong
2nd gate for Stats
another gas for Bbyong


How come you have no star?
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 13 2014 10:19 GMT
#269
On August 13 2014 19:16 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:15 Larkin wrote:
Do Thors auto shoot colossi as if they're air units?

No.


Dkim pls
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 13 2014 10:19 GMT
#270
On August 13 2014 19:17 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:15 Squat wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:12 BlackCompany wrote:
I've never understood all the Protoss that warp in 2 Zealots vs 2 full medivacs.. and then 10 seconds later 2 more zealots. Just save your warp ins, the zealots will die and the base aswell if you warp them in 2 by 2 Tt

That thor killed like 15 units one by one as Stats kept warping them in. Even got a HT. Might as well just warp in the main and get a larger force


Thats my point, its just useless to warp them in direcetly in front of the enemy. If its like 8 marines and you warp in 10 zealots, sure it works. But that was bad judgemend by Stats :/

I doubt he'll do it again. I don't think its too many times he's faced a thor drop before.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 13 2014 10:20 GMT
#271
On August 13 2014 19:19 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:16 TheDwf wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:15 Larkin wrote:
Do Thors auto shoot colossi as if they're air units?

No.


Dkim pls


ground attack does more damage. It would be stupid if they shoot them as if they were air units
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
August 13 2014 10:20 GMT
#272
wow stats
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
August 13 2014 10:21 GMT
#273
On August 13 2014 19:20 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:19 Larkin wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:16 TheDwf wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:15 Larkin wrote:
Do Thors auto shoot colossi as if they're air units?

No.


Dkim pls


ground attack does more damage. It would be stupid if they shoot them as if they were air units

Thors aint the most clever unit
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 13 2014 10:21 GMT
#274
lol@that was almost a bop
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 13 2014 10:21 GMT
#275
I don't think this did that much damage, but those kind of situations remind me why I never liked 4 stalkers openings. 3 stalker + 1 sentry seems more fluid.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2014 10:22 GMT
#276
On August 13 2014 19:18 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote:
[Code S] Ro32 Group D S3 2014
[image loading] (P)Stats vs. [image loading] (T)Bbyong
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: King Sejong Station

0:00
Stats spawns in the top left
Bbyong spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for Bbyong
gateway first for Stats
gas for Bbyong

2:00
gas for Stats
reaper for Bbyong
cybernetics core for Stats

3:00
zealot for Stats
Nexus for Stats
reactor for Bbyong
MSC for Stats
CC on the low ground for Bbyong
gas steal from Bbyong

4:00
stalker for Stats
2nd gas for Stats
2 more rax for Bbyong
reaper in the main of Stats starting to harass
2nd stalker for Stats

5:00
robo for Stats
tech lab for Bbyong
another stalker for Stats
Marauder production started for Bbyong
concussive shells for Bbyong
2nd gate for Stats
another gas for Bbyong

6:00
observer for Stats
2 more gas for Stats
2nd observer for stats
stim research started for Bbyong
Robo bay for Stats
Bbyong sending units out on the map

7:00 53 vs 51
another observe for Stats
Factory for Bbyong
ebay for Bbyong
observer sees the units of Bbyong on Stats' half of the map
Bbyong moves into the natural
photon overcharge from Stats
Bbyong runs into the main

8:00 59 vs 58
Bbyong killing stalkers
Stats is able to hold off the pressure
+1 armor for Stats
Starport for Bbyong
Extended thermal lance research and colossus for Stats

9:00 64 vs 65
1 observer of Stats is killed
4 more gates for Stats
+1 attack for Bbyong
medivacs for Bbyong
3rd base started at location for Bbyong
widow mine for Bbyong
combat shields for Bbyong
2 more rax for Bbyong
3rd base for Stats

10:00 84 vs 80
Bbyong moving out with his first two medivacs
+1 attack for Stats
twilight council for Bbyong
2nd starport for Bbyong
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 13 2014 10:23 GMT
#277
On August 13 2014 19:19 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:18 Shellshock wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote:
[Code S] Ro32 Group D S3 2014
[image loading] (P)Stats vs. [image loading] (T)Bbyong
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: King Sejong Station

0:00
Stats spawns in the top left
Bbyong spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for Bbyong
gateway first for Stats
gas for Bbyong

2:00
gas for Stats
reaper for Bbyong
cybernetics core for Stats

3:00
zealot for Stats
Nexus for Stats
reactor for Bbyong
MSC for Stats
CC on the low ground for Bbyong
gas steal from Bbyong

4:00
stalker for Stats
2nd gas for Stats
2 more rax for Bbyong
reaper in the main of Stats starting to harass
2nd stalker for Stats

5:00
robo for Stats
tech lab for Bbyong
another stalker for Stats
Marauder production started for Bbyong
concussive shells for Bbyong
2nd gate for Stats
another gas for Bbyong


How come you have no star?

He It's just an AI
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 13 2014 10:23 GMT
#278
Zest had the exact same unit positioning across his bases on this map against SalvatioN in Proleague.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
August 13 2014 10:23 GMT
#279
On August 13 2014 19:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't think this did that much damage, but those kind of situations remind me why I never liked 4 stalkers openings. 3 stalker + 1 sentry seems more fluid.

I dont see why you would not make a sentry if you feel safe in your macro skills. It is so much better vs this kind of pressure and gives you Guardian Shield / Hallucination for later. Sure you delay your tech a little, but you are so much safer. If you feel comfortable in your macro game it feels like you always could add one?
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 13 2014 10:24 GMT
#280
On August 13 2014 19:23 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 19:19 Glorfindel! wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:18 Shellshock wrote:
On August 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote:
[Code S] Ro32 Group D S3 2014
[image loading] (P)Stats vs. [image loading] (T)Bbyong
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: King Sejong Station

0:00
Stats spawns in the top left
Bbyong spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for Bbyong
gateway first for Stats
gas for Bbyong

2:00
gas for Stats
reaper for Bbyong
cybernetics core for Stats

3:00
zealot for Stats
Nexus for Stats
reactor for Bbyong
MSC for Stats
CC on the low ground for Bbyong
gas steal from Bbyong

4:00
stalker for Stats
2nd gas for Stats
2 more rax for Bbyong
reaper in the main of Stats starting to harass
2nd stalker for Stats

5:00
robo for Stats
tech lab for Bbyong
another stalker for Stats
Marauder production started for Bbyong
concussive shells for Bbyong
2nd gate for Stats
another gas for Bbyong


How come you have no star?

He It's just an AI


opti got his star for programming the Shellbot-AI back then
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 23h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko339
Livibee 108
Creator 86
SC2Nice 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 12356
Horang2 1370
firebathero 824
EffOrt 486
Mini 363
actioN 315
ZerO 302
Sharp 208
Rush 207
ggaemo 163
[ Show more ]
Snow 144
Soma 141
Light 119
Mind 74
Killer 72
Hyun 72
hero 70
Barracks 62
soO 48
ToSsGirL 47
JulyZerg 45
Yoon 41
Pusan 33
Movie 32
sorry 23
Terrorterran 21
scan(afreeca) 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
HiyA 11
Noble 11
Dota 2
XcaliburYe218
League of Legends
C9.Mang0311
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2723
x6flipin942
shoxiejesuss779
zeus581
byalli432
oskar124
edward59
Other Games
Fuzer 395
Pyrionflax231
Mew2King101
ArmadaUGS69
QueenE50
Trikslyr30
nookyyy 23
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1330
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV423
• Noizen40
League of Legends
• Jankos3817
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
23h 9m
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 20h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 23h
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.