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On July 18 2014 17:07 ApolloSC2 wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wXFVZWt.jpg)
Nestea is mindcontrolling Life, clearly
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On July 18 2014 17:03 Foreverkul wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2014 16:55 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:50 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:47 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:43 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:34 Zenbrez wrote:On July 18 2014 16:32 Foreverkul wrote:
This really pisses me off. Godlike micro vs warp ins. I even said it at the start of this thread. Warpins have been around for 4 years, I think it's about time you get used to it. Protoss mechanics in general, not really warp in specifically. I am in complete disgust right now. On July 18 2014 16:32 Pontius Pirate wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen someone play so spectacularly well and lose to such spectacularly obvious hard-counter builds as Taeja against Jim... What is Taeja even supposed to do? He micro'd as good as humanly possible and managed multiple fronts at the same time and it got him nowhere. What is he supposed to do? Not push in that situation. Not spend all his time microing instead of noticing that his mineral patches aren't getting smaller anymore. Scan sooner. Should I go on? He took care of the DT's at the same time as he was fighting and he only has a few scans. You can't just scan whenever you want. Terran doesn't have recall so he can't just return home to defend instantly and Terran doesn't have quick detection except for scans which are temporary, require energy, and only in one spot. Should I go on? I don't call losing all of your SCVs to DTs "taking care of" them, and I don't call running Hellions around hitting Stalkers instead of trying to hit the Probe line or getting a bunch of units low without finishing them off "perfect micro". Do feel free to blame Taeja's loss in Game 1 just now on "Zerg mechanics", bro. You weren't even watching the game were you? The medivac+marine MSC snipe, killing the colossus and immortals, sniping the DT warp ins, using Hellions to kill probes while his bio fought Stalkers, killing a colossus with SCVs. A list of feats most players can only DREAM of doing.
His bio fought the Stalkers and completely failed to target-fire in any way, his Hellions killed a whopping 2 workers, there was no Robo tech in that 2nd game whatsoever. I'm sick and tired of hearing that the only thing that ever causes any Terran to lose is balance. Jim outplayed Taeja twice. Taeja is, in fact, mortal. Too much salt is bad for your diet and puts you at risk of gout.
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i hate when life makes roaches
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Life too greedy. 
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Sort of anticlimactic ending to that...
WP TaeJa. All of my predictions were correct for these groups :D
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All four of the Open Bracket players finished 3rd in their groups.
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On July 18 2014 17:08 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2014 17:03 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:55 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:50 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:47 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:43 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:34 Zenbrez wrote:On July 18 2014 16:32 Foreverkul wrote:
This really pisses me off. Godlike micro vs warp ins. I even said it at the start of this thread. Warpins have been around for 4 years, I think it's about time you get used to it. Protoss mechanics in general, not really warp in specifically. I am in complete disgust right now. On July 18 2014 16:32 Pontius Pirate wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen someone play so spectacularly well and lose to such spectacularly obvious hard-counter builds as Taeja against Jim... What is Taeja even supposed to do? He micro'd as good as humanly possible and managed multiple fronts at the same time and it got him nowhere. What is he supposed to do? Not push in that situation. Not spend all his time microing instead of noticing that his mineral patches aren't getting smaller anymore. Scan sooner. Should I go on? He took care of the DT's at the same time as he was fighting and he only has a few scans. You can't just scan whenever you want. Terran doesn't have recall so he can't just return home to defend instantly and Terran doesn't have quick detection except for scans which are temporary, require energy, and only in one spot. Should I go on? I don't call losing all of your SCVs to DTs "taking care of" them, and I don't call running Hellions around hitting Stalkers instead of trying to hit the Probe line or getting a bunch of units low without finishing them off "perfect micro". Do feel free to blame Taeja's loss in Game 1 just now on "Zerg mechanics", bro. You weren't even watching the game were you? The medivac+marine MSC snipe, killing the colossus and immortals, sniping the DT warp ins, using Hellions to kill probes while his bio fought Stalkers, killing a colossus with SCVs. A list of feats most players can only DREAM of doing. His bio fought the Stalkers and completely failed to target-fire in any way, his Hellions killed a whopping 2 workers, there was no Robo tech in that 2nd game whatsoever. I'm sick and tired of hearing that the only thing that ever causes any Terran to lose is balance. Jim outplayed Taeja twice. Taeja is, in fact, mortal. Too much salt is bad for your diet and puts you at risk of gout.
He clearly killed a colossus in game 2, you have no idea what you are even talking about. As for balance, David Kim has acknowledged there is a problem, Blizzard has made it official.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/462154-star-haeng-show-interview-with-david-kim
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On July 18 2014 17:08 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2014 17:03 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:55 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:50 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:47 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:43 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:34 Zenbrez wrote:On July 18 2014 16:32 Foreverkul wrote:
This really pisses me off. Godlike micro vs warp ins. I even said it at the start of this thread. Warpins have been around for 4 years, I think it's about time you get used to it. Protoss mechanics in general, not really warp in specifically. I am in complete disgust right now. On July 18 2014 16:32 Pontius Pirate wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen someone play so spectacularly well and lose to such spectacularly obvious hard-counter builds as Taeja against Jim... What is Taeja even supposed to do? He micro'd as good as humanly possible and managed multiple fronts at the same time and it got him nowhere. What is he supposed to do? Not push in that situation. Not spend all his time microing instead of noticing that his mineral patches aren't getting smaller anymore. Scan sooner. Should I go on? He took care of the DT's at the same time as he was fighting and he only has a few scans. You can't just scan whenever you want. Terran doesn't have recall so he can't just return home to defend instantly and Terran doesn't have quick detection except for scans which are temporary, require energy, and only in one spot. Should I go on? I don't call losing all of your SCVs to DTs "taking care of" them, and I don't call running Hellions around hitting Stalkers instead of trying to hit the Probe line or getting a bunch of units low without finishing them off "perfect micro". Do feel free to blame Taeja's loss in Game 1 just now on "Zerg mechanics", bro. You weren't even watching the game were you? The medivac+marine MSC snipe, killing the colossus and immortals, sniping the DT warp ins, using Hellions to kill probes while his bio fought Stalkers, killing a colossus with SCVs. A list of feats most players can only DREAM of doing. His bio fought the Stalkers and completely failed to target-fire in any way, his Hellions killed a whopping 2 workers, there was no Robo tech in that 2nd game whatsoever. I'm sick and tired of hearing that the only thing that ever causes any Terran to lose is balance. Jim outplayed Taeja twice. Taeja is, in fact, mortal. Too much salt is bad for your diet and puts you at risk of gout.
You can argue all you want...the evidence of TvP's issues will overwhelm you. If it hasn't already it's due to some evident bias 
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Well it is 4:15am. Dont have the gusto to stay up for Code A
Night everybody <3 Twas fun, indeed.
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Life is now probably allergic to a simple word: ''TaeJa"
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On July 18 2014 17:08 Circumstance wrote:
His bio fought the Stalkers and completely failed to target-fire in any way, his Hellions killed a whopping 2 workers, there was no Robo tech in that 2nd game whatsoever. I'm sick and tired of hearing that the only thing that ever causes any Terran to lose is balance. Jim outplayed Taeja twice. Taeja is, in fact, mortal. Too much salt is bad for your diet and puts you at risk of gout.
Did you even watch the game?
I dont want to say that Taeja made hardly any damage with his initial pressure in both games is wrong but there was a Colossus in the second game, bro :D
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On July 18 2014 17:18 TW wrote:
Life is now probably allergic to a simple word: ''TaeJa"
It's a side effect of his first disease: ever since TaeJa has declared himself a San follower, Life can't beat him anymore, much like he could never beat the master in the first place.
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On July 18 2014 17:17 Foreverkul wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2014 17:08 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 17:03 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:55 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:50 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:47 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:43 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:34 Zenbrez wrote:On July 18 2014 16:32 Foreverkul wrote:
This really pisses me off. Godlike micro vs warp ins. I even said it at the start of this thread. Warpins have been around for 4 years, I think it's about time you get used to it. Protoss mechanics in general, not really warp in specifically. I am in complete disgust right now. On July 18 2014 16:32 Pontius Pirate wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen someone play so spectacularly well and lose to such spectacularly obvious hard-counter builds as Taeja against Jim... What is Taeja even supposed to do? He micro'd as good as humanly possible and managed multiple fronts at the same time and it got him nowhere. What is he supposed to do? Not push in that situation. Not spend all his time microing instead of noticing that his mineral patches aren't getting smaller anymore. Scan sooner. Should I go on? He took care of the DT's at the same time as he was fighting and he only has a few scans. You can't just scan whenever you want. Terran doesn't have recall so he can't just return home to defend instantly and Terran doesn't have quick detection except for scans which are temporary, require energy, and only in one spot. Should I go on? I don't call losing all of your SCVs to DTs "taking care of" them, and I don't call running Hellions around hitting Stalkers instead of trying to hit the Probe line or getting a bunch of units low without finishing them off "perfect micro". Do feel free to blame Taeja's loss in Game 1 just now on "Zerg mechanics", bro. You weren't even watching the game were you? The medivac+marine MSC snipe, killing the colossus and immortals, sniping the DT warp ins, using Hellions to kill probes while his bio fought Stalkers, killing a colossus with SCVs. A list of feats most players can only DREAM of doing. His bio fought the Stalkers and completely failed to target-fire in any way, his Hellions killed a whopping 2 workers, there was no Robo tech in that 2nd game whatsoever. I'm sick and tired of hearing that the only thing that ever causes any Terran to lose is balance. Jim outplayed Taeja twice. Taeja is, in fact, mortal. Too much salt is bad for your diet and puts you at risk of gout. He clearly killed a colossus in game 2, you have no idea what you are even talking about. As for balance, David Kim has acknowledged there is a problem, Blizzard has made it official. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/462154-star-haeng-show-interview-with-david-kim
Yes, clearly I said that there were no problems in TvP whatsoever. That's obviously what I believe, that the game is balanced. Meanwhile, there is not a tournament that goes by in which a Terran gets directly outplayed, earns themselves a well-deserved loss, and their fans blame balance for it all. Jim won. Jim earned it. Taeja beat Life. Taeja earned that. Terrans won't be satisfied until balance is back to 2011 levels, and even then, when a Protoss has the gall to beat one on a stage, they'll whine that they need a buff.
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Are people really complaining about Jim vs Taeja as TvP imbalance? The first game Taejas attack simply didn't do enough damage, then he made a cost inefficient trade at Jims third which led to him being overwhelmed and forced to GG. The second game Taejas attack did more damage but he got caught with his pants down and lost most of his workers to cloaked units.
There certainly are sets which showcase tvp imbalance: This one, however, simply wasn't one of those.
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On July 18 2014 17:23 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2014 17:17 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 17:08 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 17:03 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:55 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:50 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:47 Circumstance wrote:On July 18 2014 16:43 Foreverkul wrote:On July 18 2014 16:34 Zenbrez wrote:On July 18 2014 16:32 Foreverkul wrote:
This really pisses me off. Godlike micro vs warp ins. I even said it at the start of this thread. Warpins have been around for 4 years, I think it's about time you get used to it. Protoss mechanics in general, not really warp in specifically. I am in complete disgust right now. On July 18 2014 16:32 Pontius Pirate wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen someone play so spectacularly well and lose to such spectacularly obvious hard-counter builds as Taeja against Jim... What is Taeja even supposed to do? He micro'd as good as humanly possible and managed multiple fronts at the same time and it got him nowhere. What is he supposed to do? Not push in that situation. Not spend all his time microing instead of noticing that his mineral patches aren't getting smaller anymore. Scan sooner. Should I go on? He took care of the DT's at the same time as he was fighting and he only has a few scans. You can't just scan whenever you want. Terran doesn't have recall so he can't just return home to defend instantly and Terran doesn't have quick detection except for scans which are temporary, require energy, and only in one spot. Should I go on? I don't call losing all of your SCVs to DTs "taking care of" them, and I don't call running Hellions around hitting Stalkers instead of trying to hit the Probe line or getting a bunch of units low without finishing them off "perfect micro". Do feel free to blame Taeja's loss in Game 1 just now on "Zerg mechanics", bro. You weren't even watching the game were you? The medivac+marine MSC snipe, killing the colossus and immortals, sniping the DT warp ins, using Hellions to kill probes while his bio fought Stalkers, killing a colossus with SCVs. A list of feats most players can only DREAM of doing. His bio fought the Stalkers and completely failed to target-fire in any way, his Hellions killed a whopping 2 workers, there was no Robo tech in that 2nd game whatsoever. I'm sick and tired of hearing that the only thing that ever causes any Terran to lose is balance. Jim outplayed Taeja twice. Taeja is, in fact, mortal. Too much salt is bad for your diet and puts you at risk of gout. He clearly killed a colossus in game 2, you have no idea what you are even talking about. As for balance, David Kim has acknowledged there is a problem, Blizzard has made it official. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/462154-star-haeng-show-interview-with-david-kim Yes, clearly I said that there were no problems in TvP whatsoever. That's obviously what I believe, that the game is balanced. Meanwhile, there is not a tournament that goes by in which a Terran gets directly outplayed, earns themselves a well-deserved loss, and their fans blame balance for it all. Jim won. Jim earned it. Taeja beat Life. Taeja earned that. Terrans won't be satisfied until balance is back to 2011 levels, and even then, when a Protoss has the gall to beat one on a stage, they'll whine that they need a buff.
MMA literally dropped out of the group minutes before hand and EVERYONE said he was playing bad AND hes a Terran. You've shown that you didn't watch Taejas games at all, didn't read this threads reaction to MMA, informed of Blizzards official acknowledgement of balance issues, and displayed clearly obvious biased. You need to re-evaluate your position on these matters, sir.
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