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Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards.

Before making comments on race picking, refer to MLG's rules
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
June 23 2014 02:09 GMT
#4421
On June 23 2014 11:07 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:03 Josh_Video wrote:
Using a dual bracket is hard because you have to reward the player coming from the winner bracket in some way, but not make it too much harder for the player coming from losers, personally i dislike both extended series and the two bo3 thing, but i cant think of a fair way of doing it, maybe start Polt with a 1 game advantage?


How about just have a regular BO7 finals? Is it really that hard to comprehend that the WB final player already has the upper hand due to having rested + having had the advantage of being able to study his opponent?


Not enough of an advantage. The winner is entitled to lose one bo3 like everyone else, otherwise he's the only one that got screwed. In theory the lower bracket player is playing lesser people who have all lost before, so it doesn't matter if they have to play more games. The winner bracket player needs an advantage that is more than just rest.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 02:10 GMT
#4422
On June 23 2014 11:08 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:07 corpuscle wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it!

MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow


Everybody forgets Leenock

Try being an aLive fan

INB4 SOME SMARTASS SAYS, "a fan of who?"

Low hanging fruit man.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 02:12:50
June 23 2014 02:10 GMT
#4423
On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it!

MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow


A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time.

The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc.


but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success.

EDIT; MMA i guess. maybe leenock and taeja if you dont count top 4 in code A.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 23 2014 02:11 GMT
#4424
On June 23 2014 11:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:07 Destructicon wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:03 Josh_Video wrote:
Using a dual bracket is hard because you have to reward the player coming from the winner bracket in some way, but not make it too much harder for the player coming from losers, personally i dislike both extended series and the two bo3 thing, but i cant think of a fair way of doing it, maybe start Polt with a 1 game advantage?


How about just have a regular BO7 finals? Is it really that hard to comprehend that the WB final player already has the upper hand due to having rested + having had the advantage of being able to study his opponent?


Not enough of an advantage. The winner is entitled to lose one bo3 like everyone else, otherwise he's the only one that got screwed. In theory the lower bracket player is playing lesser people who have all lost before, so it doesn't matter if they have to play more games. The winner bracket player needs an advantage that is more than just rest.


I call bullshit on that, the rest + studying is enough of an advantage.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 23 2014 02:11 GMT
#4425
I am assuming Trap wins this. Yay for Trap and IM!

Hopefully I'll not be proven wrong tomoz when I check the complete results
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 23 2014 02:11 GMT
#4426
On June 23 2014 11:07 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:03 Josh_Video wrote:
Using a dual bracket is hard because you have to reward the player coming from the winner bracket in some way, but not make it too much harder for the player coming from losers, personally i dislike both extended series and the two bo3 thing, but i cant think of a fair way of doing it, maybe start Polt with a 1 game advantage?


How about just have a regular BO7 finals? Is it really that hard to comprehend that the WB final player already has the upper hand due to having rested + having had the advantage of being able to study his opponent?


Such an advantage is not quantifiable and as such is pretty unfair towards the person that hasn't lost a series yet. A better alternative in my opinion, and one that MLG had used before is to split the brackets, and loser brackets into two halves, and have two people of equal standing in the tournament face each other on equal ground.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
June 23 2014 02:11 GMT
#4427
On June 23 2014 11:10 Josh_Video wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it!

MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow


A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time.

The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc.


but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success.


bomber. code A doesn't count.

actually MMA too
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
June 23 2014 02:11 GMT
#4428
Didn't MLG basically launch MMA's career?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 23 2014 02:11 GMT
#4429
On June 23 2014 11:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
So now it's either Polt bringing it home for the Terrans (and Murica!).

Or Trap getting his first major win and IM's first 2014 championship.

This would be their first championship since YoDa at IEM right?


If we're counting online events, Squirlte last won the Dailymotion Cup in December.

Offline, GSTL s1 2013. Individual...err I think it was last won by Mvp in WCS EU

Oh poor IM so hard for a team that doesn't win that many tournaments
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 02:11 GMT
#4430
Polt please pick Protoss.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 23 2014 02:11 GMT
#4431
On June 23 2014 11:11 KingofGods wrote:
Didn't MLG basically launch MMA's career?

MMA got really started in GSTL.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 02:12:32
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4432
I like this rule. It annoys me when people pick the same fucking maps every goddamn series.

Only downside is that now we might actually get Altrezim Stronghold. God I hate that map.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4433
On June 23 2014 11:10 Josh_Video wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it!

MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow


A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time.

The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc.


but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success.



leenock
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4434
On June 23 2014 11:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:07 Destructicon wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:03 Josh_Video wrote:
Using a dual bracket is hard because you have to reward the player coming from the winner bracket in some way, but not make it too much harder for the player coming from losers, personally i dislike both extended series and the two bo3 thing, but i cant think of a fair way of doing it, maybe start Polt with a 1 game advantage?


How about just have a regular BO7 finals? Is it really that hard to comprehend that the WB final player already has the upper hand due to having rested + having had the advantage of being able to study his opponent?


Such an advantage is not quantifiable and as such is pretty unfair towards the person that hasn't lost a series yet. A better alternative in my opinion, and one that MLG had used before is to split the brackets, and loser brackets into two halves, and have two people of equal standing in the tournament face each other on equal ground.


The Smash Bros community complained about that idea and it was changed for all the games for some reason. What you're describing was the original format they were going to use.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4435
On June 23 2014 11:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
So now it's either Polt bringing it home for the Terrans (and Murica!).

Or Trap getting his first major win and IM's first 2014 championship.

This would be their first championship since YoDa at IEM right?


If we're counting online events, Squirlte last won the Dailymotion Cup in December.

Offline, GSTL s1 2013. Individual...err I think it was last won by Mvp in WCS EU

Oh poor IM so hard for a team that doesn't win that many tournaments


First world problems yo
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4436
On June 23 2014 11:10 Josh_Video wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it!

MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow


A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time.

The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc.


but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success.


This won't be Polt's first tournament success.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4437
Ooh, I like this "no map recycling" rule.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4438
On June 23 2014 11:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
So now it's either Polt bringing it home for the Terrans (and Murica!).

Or Trap getting his first major win and IM's first 2014 championship.

This would be their first championship since YoDa at IEM right?


If we're counting online events, Squirlte last won the Dailymotion Cup in December.

Offline, GSTL s1 2013. Individual...err I think it was last won by Mvp in WCS EU

Oh poor IM so hard for a team that doesn't win that many tournaments

They can't win proleague so in the end they fail.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4439
On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it!

MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow


A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time.

The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc.

For me I knew all about these guys (except maybe MMA because i had just started watching a few months before MLG Columbus 2011) by the time they won their MLG. In any case that's an argument for so-called "faceless" Koreans winning because they all became well-known fan favorites afterward :D
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
XDEKSDEEXD
Profile Joined June 2013
622 Posts
June 23 2014 02:12 GMT
#4440
Why is Polt vs Trap 0 and 0 again? didnt Trap win last 2 games
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