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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 23 2014 11:12 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Destructicon wrote:On June 23 2014 11:03 Josh_Video wrote:
Using a dual bracket is hard because you have to reward the player coming from the winner bracket in some way, but not make it too much harder for the player coming from losers, personally i dislike both extended series and the two bo3 thing, but i cant think of a fair way of doing it, maybe start Polt with a 1 game advantage? How about just have a regular BO7 finals? Is it really that hard to comprehend that the WB final player already has the upper hand due to having rested + having had the advantage of being able to study his opponent? Such an advantage is not quantifiable and as such is pretty unfair towards the person that hasn't lost a series yet. A better alternative in my opinion, and one that MLG had used before is to split the brackets, and loser brackets into two halves, and have two people of equal standing in the tournament face each other on equal ground. The Smash Bros community complained about that idea and it was changed for all the games for some reason. What you're describing was the original format they were going to use.
Why did they complain?
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On June 23 2014 11:11 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:09 Canucklehead wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Destructicon wrote:On June 23 2014 11:03 Josh_Video wrote:
Using a dual bracket is hard because you have to reward the player coming from the winner bracket in some way, but not make it too much harder for the player coming from losers, personally i dislike both extended series and the two bo3 thing, but i cant think of a fair way of doing it, maybe start Polt with a 1 game advantage? How about just have a regular BO7 finals? Is it really that hard to comprehend that the WB final player already has the upper hand due to having rested + having had the advantage of being able to study his opponent? Not enough of an advantage. The winner is entitled to lose one bo3 like everyone else, otherwise he's the only one that got screwed. In theory the lower bracket player is playing lesser people who have all lost before, so it doesn't matter if they have to play more games. The winner bracket player needs an advantage that is more than just rest. I call bullshit on that, the rest + studying is enough of an advantage.
Alternatively you can see rest = "lack of warmup"
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On June 23 2014 11:11 negativedge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:10 Josh_Video wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it! MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time. The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc. but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success. bomber. code A doesn't count. actually MMA too
If you win code A, you no longer classify as a "Faceless korean"
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On June 23 2014 11:12 Yes Im Otto wrote:
Why is Polt vs Trap 0 and 0 again? didnt Trap win last 2 games
They play 2 Bo3s as per normal double elimination rules.
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On June 23 2014 11:12 Yes Im Otto wrote:
Why is Polt vs Trap 0 and 0 again? didnt Trap win last 2 games
Double elimination so they play two Bo3s cause Trap came from the loser's bracket.
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On June 23 2014 11:08 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:07 corpuscle wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it! MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow Everybody forgets Leenock  Try being an aLive fan INB4 SOME SMARTASS SAYS, "a fan of who?"
I actually am an aLive fan and I forgot
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On June 23 2014 11:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:11 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 23 2014 11:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
So now it's either Polt bringing it home for the Terrans (and Murica!).
Or Trap getting his first major win and IM's first 2014 championship. This would be their first championship since YoDa at IEM right? If we're counting online events, Squirlte last won the Dailymotion Cup in December. Offline, GSTL s1 2013. Individual...err I think it was last won by Mvp in WCS EU Oh poor IM so hard for a team that doesn't win that many tournaments They can't win proleague so in the end they fail.
Could still try for a r4 playoff victory though >.>
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On June 23 2014 11:12 Yes Im Otto wrote:
Why is Polt vs Trap 0 and 0 again? didnt Trap win last 2 games
bro start listening to the cast
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 23 2014 11:13 corpuscle wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:08 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 corpuscle wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it! MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow Everybody forgets Leenock Try being an aLive fan INB4 SOME SMARTASS SAYS, "a fan of who?" I actually am an aLive fan and I forgot
hats meta
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On June 23 2014 11:12 Yes Im Otto wrote:
Why is Polt vs Trap 0 and 0 again? didnt Trap win last 2 games
Trap had to win 2 best of threes since he came from the loser's bracket. The score got reset since Trap won the first set. Now it's one bo3 for all the marbles
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On June 23 2014 11:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 23 2014 11:11 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 23 2014 11:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
So now it's either Polt bringing it home for the Terrans (and Murica!).
Or Trap getting his first major win and IM's first 2014 championship. This would be their first championship since YoDa at IEM right? If we're counting online events, Squirlte last won the Dailymotion Cup in December. Offline, GSTL s1 2013. Individual...err I think it was last won by Mvp in WCS EU Oh poor IM so hard for a team that doesn't win that many tournaments They can't win proleague so in the end they fail. Could still try for a r4 playoff victory though >.>
So many good players yet such bad performance.
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On June 23 2014 11:13 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:11 negativedge wrote:On June 23 2014 11:10 Josh_Video wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it! MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time. The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc. but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success. bomber. code A doesn't count. actually MMA too If you win code A, you no longer classify as a "Faceless korean"
I'm pretty sure "faceless korean" is just a euphemism for "player I don't personally like," so I can't say I'm too concerned with your arbitrary definitions
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On June 23 2014 11:12 Kitaen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:10 Josh_Video wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it! MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time. The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc. but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success. leenock
Top 4 in 3 Code As and hes still a faceless korean? I Disagree.
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Polt has great scouting sense.
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On June 23 2014 11:13 Clazziquai10 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:11 Destructicon wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 Canucklehead wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Destructicon wrote:On June 23 2014 11:03 Josh_Video wrote:
Using a dual bracket is hard because you have to reward the player coming from the winner bracket in some way, but not make it too much harder for the player coming from losers, personally i dislike both extended series and the two bo3 thing, but i cant think of a fair way of doing it, maybe start Polt with a 1 game advantage? How about just have a regular BO7 finals? Is it really that hard to comprehend that the WB final player already has the upper hand due to having rested + having had the advantage of being able to study his opponent? Not enough of an advantage. The winner is entitled to lose one bo3 like everyone else, otherwise he's the only one that got screwed. In theory the lower bracket player is playing lesser people who have all lost before, so it doesn't matter if they have to play more games. The winner bracket player needs an advantage that is more than just rest. I call bullshit on that, the rest + studying is enough of an advantage. Alternatively you can see rest = "lack of warmup"
Hey you have a whole day's worth of time, its up to you what you do with it, if you didn't practice ladder or some custom games and then QQ that the other guy was warmed up then you really deserve to lose.
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On June 23 2014 11:13 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:11 negativedge wrote:On June 23 2014 11:10 Josh_Video wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it! MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time. The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc. but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success. bomber. code A doesn't count. actually MMA too If you win code A, you no longer classify as a "Faceless korean"
Nobody qualifies as a faceless Korean. It's a derogatory term that makes fun of the fact that it's tough to express your personality after being flown halfway around the world to a foreign country where you don't speak a lick of English
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United States23455 Posts
On June 23 2014 11:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On June 23 2014 11:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 23 2014 11:11 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 23 2014 11:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
So now it's either Polt bringing it home for the Terrans (and Murica!).
Or Trap getting his first major win and IM's first 2014 championship. This would be their first championship since YoDa at IEM right? If we're counting online events, Squirlte last won the Dailymotion Cup in December. Offline, GSTL s1 2013. Individual...err I think it was last won by Mvp in WCS EU Oh poor IM so hard for a team that doesn't win that many tournaments They can't win proleague so in the end they fail. Could still try for a r4 playoff victory though >.> So many good players yet such bad performance.
Too many I think there were a ton of lineup changes.
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On June 23 2014 11:14 Josh_Video wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:12 Kitaen wrote:On June 23 2014 11:10 Josh_Video wrote:On June 23 2014 11:09 Exarl25 wrote:On June 23 2014 11:07 Yorkie wrote:On June 23 2014 11:06 Larkin wrote:
It wouldn't be MLG without a faceless Korean winning it! MMA, MVP, DRG, MKP, Taeja so faceless wow A lot of those guys were considered faceless Koreans until they were consistently winning foreign events. For Mvp especially that status stuck around for a very long time. The term is complete bullshit and borderline racism anyway, as is calling them robots etc. but nobody who won a mlg was their first tournament success. leenock Top 4 in 3 Code As and hes still a faceless korean? I Disagree.
everyone knew who leenock was because he made nada take off his jacket in GSL :O
(also he had beaten MVP in a really great series in the GSL semis the week before his first MLG win)
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