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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
June 15 2014 23:36 GMT
#21
Gogo MaNa!!
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 15 2014 23:37 GMT
#22
3/8 liquid in Ro8, sick city
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 15 2014 23:47 GMT
#23
I don't know what I want more, for Taeja to win, or not to win...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 15 2014 23:53 GMT
#24
TaeJa vs. HerO would be another teamkill. :S

I wanna see JD vs. MC.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
June 16 2014 00:07 GMT
#25
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.
ybjoony
Profile Joined March 2014
Korea (South)15 Posts
June 16 2014 00:20 GMT
#26
6 tosses... May the Best Dong win.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7308 Posts
June 16 2014 00:25 GMT
#27
Jaedong, if you stomp TaeJa tomorrow, I will still love you just as much as I always do because Evil Geniuses and Jaedong are just two things that make me happy anyways.

Still, it would be great if you could win.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 16 2014 00:28 GMT
#28
On June 16 2014 09:07 geokilla wrote:
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.


Its funny cuz taeja will win anyway
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 00:56:59
June 16 2014 00:39 GMT
#29
On June 16 2014 09:07 geokilla wrote:
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.


Of course the racial balance of the round of 8 of one tournament is an accurate representation of the state of balance of the entire game. A week ago at HSC we had 5 Terrans, 2 Zergs and 1 Protoss in the round of 8.

If you have a valid point about balance to make, make it (preferably in a balance thread) instead of dropping jabs at balance by citing factoids that mean nothing in of themselves to alleviate your frustration about the game's balance.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 16 2014 00:42 GMT
#30
On June 16 2014 09:25 Zambrah wrote:
Jaedong, if you stomp TaeJa tomorrow, I will still love you just as much as I always do because Evil Geniuses and Jaedong are just two things that make me happy anyways.

Still, it would be great if you could win.

Jaedong is going to lose to Mana, what are you talking about? ROFL
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
June 16 2014 00:46 GMT
#31
WCS Predictor previews for quarterfinals

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [TaeJa, Patience in DreamHack Summer] +
DreamHack Summer
- kr TaeJa is at ~ 99.65 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 54.69 % of the time kr TaeJa wins and their chances go up to ~ 99.91 %.
~ 45.31 % of the time kr TaeJa loses and their chances go down to ~ 99.33 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Patience is at ~ 6.57 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 45.31 % of the time kr Patience wins and their chances go up to ~ 7.91 %.
~ 54.69 % of the time kr Patience loses and their chances go down to ~ 5.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MaNa, Jaedong in DreamHack Summer] +
DreamHack Summer
- pl MaNa is at ~ 1.74 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 40.16 % of the time pl MaNa wins and their chances go up to ~ 2.06 %.
~ 59.84 % of the time pl MaNa loses and their chances go down to ~ 1.54 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Jaedong is at ~ 60.46 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 59.84 % of the time kr Jaedong wins and their chances go up to ~ 68.66 %.
~ 40.16 % of the time kr Jaedong loses and their chances go down to ~ 48.24 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [HerO, MC in DreamHack Summer] +
DreamHack Summer
- kr HerO is at ~ 9.42 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 45.79 % of the time kr HerO wins and their chances go up to ~ 12.46 %.
~ 54.21 % of the time kr HerO loses and their chances go down to ~ 6.85 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 54.21 % of the time kr MC wins and their chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 45.79 % of the time kr MC loses and their chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, San in DreamHack Summer] +
DreamHack Summer
- kr First is at ~ 23.53 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 47.08 % of the time kr First wins and their chances go up to ~ 25.79 %.
~ 52.92 % of the time kr First loses and their chances go down to ~ 21.52 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 52.92 % of the time kr San wins and their chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 47.08 % of the time kr San loses and their chances go down to ~ 100 %.


Winning Chances
+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

DreamHack Summer
kr San has a ~ 18.71 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr TaeJa has a ~ 17.21 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 99.65 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr First has a ~ 13.55 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 23.53 % to ~ 30.43 %
kr Jaedong has a ~ 12.77 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 60.46 % to ~ 92.21 %
kr MC has a ~ 12.61 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Patience has a ~ 11.35 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 6.57 % to ~ 11.68 %
kr HerO has a ~ 7.87 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 9.42 % to ~ 23.69 %
pl MaNa has a ~ 5.92 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 1.74 % to ~ 3.03 %


The players who would gain more than 10% chances by winning this tournament are Jaedong with a ~31.75% gain, and Hero with a ~14.27% gain.

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 16 2014 00:51 GMT
#32
So... how bout them protosses
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 16 2014 01:08 GMT
#33
On June 16 2014 09:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So... how bout them protosses

Nobody noticed until the ro16
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 16 2014 01:10 GMT
#34
On June 16 2014 10:08 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So... how bout them protosses

Nobody noticed until the ro16

Wasn't even THAT bad in the ro16, 9/16. but now we have 6/8 players being protoss. that's a little too much I think
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User15937
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
68 Posts
June 16 2014 01:37 GMT
#35
Rooting for MC but I think San has this one.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 16 2014 01:42 GMT
#36
I thought TaeJa would have more than a ~55% chance at winning vs Patience
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 16 2014 01:57 GMT
#37
On June 16 2014 10:42 Jer99 wrote:
I thought TaeJa would have more than a ~55% chance at winning vs Patience

die4ever's site cushions aligulac ratings so that everyone's chances of winning are closer to 50%, not sure why.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
June 16 2014 02:03 GMT
#38
On June 16 2014 10:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:42 Jer99 wrote:
I thought TaeJa would have more than a ~55% chance at winning vs Patience

die4ever's site cushions aligulac ratings so that everyone's chances of winning are closer to 50%, not sure why.

it works better for long term predictions, partly because it gives lesser players a better resolution of samples to see when they qualify, and also player skill changes over time, and with this simulating all tournaments for the year it should be more conservative accounting for the possibility of players getting better or worse
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Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 16 2014 02:03 GMT
#39
On June 16 2014 09:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:07 geokilla wrote:
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.


Of course the racial balance of the round of 8 of one tournament is an accurate representation of the state of balance of the entire game. A week ago at HSC we had 5 Terrans, 2 Zergs and 1 Protoss in the round of 8.

If you have a valid point about balance to make, make it (preferably in a balance thread) instead of dropping jabs at balance by citing factoids that mean nothing in of themselves to alleviate your frustration about the game's balance.


If you look at the players who made it to the RO16 the only surprising player(s) to advance to the RO8 is Mana and perhaps Hero. Its not so much a matter of race but the players that made it through and the opponents they happened to face.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 02:44:06
June 16 2014 02:43 GMT
#40
On June 16 2014 11:03 Stress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:07 geokilla wrote:
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.


Of course the racial balance of the round of 8 of one tournament is an accurate representation of the state of balance of the entire game. A week ago at HSC we had 5 Terrans, 2 Zergs and 1 Protoss in the round of 8.

If you have a valid point about balance to make, make it (preferably in a balance thread) instead of dropping jabs at balance by citing factoids that mean nothing in of themselves to alleviate your frustration about the game's balance.


If you look at the players who made it to the RO16 the only surprising player(s) to advance to the RO8 is Mana and perhaps Hero. Its not so much a matter of race but the players that made it through and the opponents they happened to face.

HerO has been narrowly squeaking by with very dirty and sloppy comebacks in both group stage 3 and the ro16. At this rate, he'll lose 3-0 to TaeJa (who doesn't mess around when about to win) in the finals
edit: forgot that this was dreamhack
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