• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:38
CEST 10:38
KST 17:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview7TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection5Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June1Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview What kind of tool would you be interested in? TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June FlaSh's ASL S21 Finals Review BW animated web series: seeking contributors 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event
Tourneys
[BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How cold is too cold to be outdoors?
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7318 users

[DH] Summer 2014 Day 3 - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 157 158 159 Next
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
June 15 2014 23:36 GMT
#21
Gogo MaNa!!
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
June 15 2014 23:37 GMT
#22
3/8 liquid in Ro8, sick city
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 15 2014 23:47 GMT
#23
I don't know what I want more, for Taeja to win, or not to win...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 15 2014 23:53 GMT
#24
TaeJa vs. HerO would be another teamkill. :S

I wanna see JD vs. MC.
kiss kiss fall in love
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8247 Posts
June 16 2014 00:07 GMT
#25
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.
ybjoony
Profile Joined March 2014
Korea (South)15 Posts
June 16 2014 00:20 GMT
#26
6 tosses... May the Best Dong win.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
June 16 2014 00:25 GMT
#27
Jaedong, if you stomp TaeJa tomorrow, I will still love you just as much as I always do because Evil Geniuses and Jaedong are just two things that make me happy anyways.

Still, it would be great if you could win.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 16 2014 00:28 GMT
#28
On June 16 2014 09:07 geokilla wrote:
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.


Its funny cuz taeja will win anyway
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 00:56:59
June 16 2014 00:39 GMT
#29
On June 16 2014 09:07 geokilla wrote:
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.


Of course the racial balance of the round of 8 of one tournament is an accurate representation of the state of balance of the entire game. A week ago at HSC we had 5 Terrans, 2 Zergs and 1 Protoss in the round of 8.

If you have a valid point about balance to make, make it (preferably in a balance thread) instead of dropping jabs at balance by citing factoids that mean nothing in of themselves to alleviate your frustration about the game's balance.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 16 2014 00:42 GMT
#30
On June 16 2014 09:25 Zambrah wrote:
Jaedong, if you stomp TaeJa tomorrow, I will still love you just as much as I always do because Evil Geniuses and Jaedong are just two things that make me happy anyways.

Still, it would be great if you could win.

Jaedong is going to lose to Mana, what are you talking about? ROFL
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
June 16 2014 00:46 GMT
#31
WCS Predictor previews for quarterfinals

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [TaeJa, Patience in DreamHack Summer] +
DreamHack Summer
- kr TaeJa is at ~ 99.65 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 54.69 % of the time kr TaeJa wins and their chances go up to ~ 99.91 %.
~ 45.31 % of the time kr TaeJa loses and their chances go down to ~ 99.33 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Patience is at ~ 6.57 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 45.31 % of the time kr Patience wins and their chances go up to ~ 7.91 %.
~ 54.69 % of the time kr Patience loses and their chances go down to ~ 5.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MaNa, Jaedong in DreamHack Summer] +
DreamHack Summer
- pl MaNa is at ~ 1.74 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 40.16 % of the time pl MaNa wins and their chances go up to ~ 2.06 %.
~ 59.84 % of the time pl MaNa loses and their chances go down to ~ 1.54 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Jaedong is at ~ 60.46 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 59.84 % of the time kr Jaedong wins and their chances go up to ~ 68.66 %.
~ 40.16 % of the time kr Jaedong loses and their chances go down to ~ 48.24 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [HerO, MC in DreamHack Summer] +
DreamHack Summer
- kr HerO is at ~ 9.42 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 45.79 % of the time kr HerO wins and their chances go up to ~ 12.46 %.
~ 54.21 % of the time kr HerO loses and their chances go down to ~ 6.85 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 54.21 % of the time kr MC wins and their chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 45.79 % of the time kr MC loses and their chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, San in DreamHack Summer] +
DreamHack Summer
- kr First is at ~ 23.53 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 47.08 % of the time kr First wins and their chances go up to ~ 25.79 %.
~ 52.92 % of the time kr First loses and their chances go down to ~ 21.52 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 52.92 % of the time kr San wins and their chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 47.08 % of the time kr San loses and their chances go down to ~ 100 %.


Winning Chances
+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

DreamHack Summer
kr San has a ~ 18.71 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr TaeJa has a ~ 17.21 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 99.65 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr First has a ~ 13.55 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 23.53 % to ~ 30.43 %
kr Jaedong has a ~ 12.77 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 60.46 % to ~ 92.21 %
kr MC has a ~ 12.61 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Patience has a ~ 11.35 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 6.57 % to ~ 11.68 %
kr HerO has a ~ 7.87 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 9.42 % to ~ 23.69 %
pl MaNa has a ~ 5.92 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 1.74 % to ~ 3.03 %


The players who would gain more than 10% chances by winning this tournament are Jaedong with a ~31.75% gain, and Hero with a ~14.27% gain.

http://sc2.4ever.tv/
"Expert" mods4ever.com
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 16 2014 00:51 GMT
#32
So... how bout them protosses
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 16 2014 01:08 GMT
#33
On June 16 2014 09:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So... how bout them protosses

Nobody noticed until the ro16
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 16 2014 01:10 GMT
#34
On June 16 2014 10:08 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So... how bout them protosses

Nobody noticed until the ro16

Wasn't even THAT bad in the ro16, 9/16. but now we have 6/8 players being protoss. that's a little too much I think
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
User15937
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
68 Posts
June 16 2014 01:37 GMT
#35
Rooting for MC but I think San has this one.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
June 16 2014 01:42 GMT
#36
I thought TaeJa would have more than a ~55% chance at winning vs Patience
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 16 2014 01:57 GMT
#37
On June 16 2014 10:42 Jer99 wrote:
I thought TaeJa would have more than a ~55% chance at winning vs Patience

die4ever's site cushions aligulac ratings so that everyone's chances of winning are closer to 50%, not sure why.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
June 16 2014 02:03 GMT
#38
On June 16 2014 10:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:42 Jer99 wrote:
I thought TaeJa would have more than a ~55% chance at winning vs Patience

die4ever's site cushions aligulac ratings so that everyone's chances of winning are closer to 50%, not sure why.

it works better for long term predictions, partly because it gives lesser players a better resolution of samples to see when they qualify, and also player skill changes over time, and with this simulating all tournaments for the year it should be more conservative accounting for the possibility of players getting better or worse
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 16 2014 02:03 GMT
#39
On June 16 2014 09:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:07 geokilla wrote:
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.


Of course the racial balance of the round of 8 of one tournament is an accurate representation of the state of balance of the entire game. A week ago at HSC we had 5 Terrans, 2 Zergs and 1 Protoss in the round of 8.

If you have a valid point about balance to make, make it (preferably in a balance thread) instead of dropping jabs at balance by citing factoids that mean nothing in of themselves to alleviate your frustration about the game's balance.


If you look at the players who made it to the RO16 the only surprising player(s) to advance to the RO8 is Mana and perhaps Hero. Its not so much a matter of race but the players that made it through and the opponents they happened to face.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 02:44:06
June 16 2014 02:43 GMT
#40
On June 16 2014 11:03 Stress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:07 geokilla wrote:
One Terran and one Zerg? David Kim messed up big time.


Of course the racial balance of the round of 8 of one tournament is an accurate representation of the state of balance of the entire game. A week ago at HSC we had 5 Terrans, 2 Zergs and 1 Protoss in the round of 8.

If you have a valid point about balance to make, make it (preferably in a balance thread) instead of dropping jabs at balance by citing factoids that mean nothing in of themselves to alleviate your frustration about the game's balance.


If you look at the players who made it to the RO16 the only surprising player(s) to advance to the RO8 is Mana and perhaps Hero. Its not so much a matter of race but the players that made it through and the opponents they happened to face.

HerO has been narrowly squeaking by with very dirty and sloppy comebacks in both group stage 3 and the ro16. At this rate, he'll lose 3-0 to TaeJa (who doesn't mess around when about to win) in the finals
edit: forgot that this was dreamhack
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 157 158 159 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 23m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 8689
Killer 805
Mong 369
Hyuk 282
Pusan 206
EffOrt 159
Leta 108
Shine 107
Hm[arnc] 91
yabsab 82
[ Show more ]
Shinee 57
Sharp 55
ToSsGirL 30
NotJumperer 21
JulyZerg 19
Sacsri 16
League of Legends
JimRising 694
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1267
olofmeister845
shoxiejesuss337
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King84
Other Games
WinterStarcraft638
ceh9573
Pyrionflax152
RuFF_SC233
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick700
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 75
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3319
• Jankos1816
• Rush1173
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
2h 23m
Monday Night Weeklies
7h 23m
Replay Cast
15h 23m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 1h
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
Classic vs Lambo
Clem vs Maru
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Serral vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.